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Unfortunately, I have used my 28' S2 very little this year. I thought
I had checked my battery water but now I remember the last time I
checked was in January and I have a solar panel that keeps them
charged and probably overcharges them causing them to lose water. The
problem is that the battery location makes it very difficult to check
them, especially in summer when it is so hot.
Now my batteries are dead after only 3 years of use. So, what are my
best options? I am sure maintenance will continue to be a problem but
I really did not think my small solar charger really caused problems
but clearly it did. I have it connected to #1 only and that one had
almost no water. #2 had more water and does take a little charge but
should also be replaced.
Are maintenance free deepcycle batteries worthwhile?
Any suggestions?

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wrote:

Unfortunately, I have used my 28' S2 very little this year. I thought
I had checked my battery water but now I remember the last time I
checked was in January and I have a solar panel that keeps them
charged and probably overcharges them causing them to lose water. The
problem is that the battery location makes it very difficult to check
them, especially in summer when it is so hot.
Now my batteries are dead after only 3 years of use. So, what are my
best options? I am sure maintenance will continue to be a problem but
I really did not think my small solar charger really caused problems
but clearly it did. I have it connected to #1 only and that one had
almost no water. #2 had more water and does take a little charge but
should also be replaced.
Are maintenance free deepcycle batteries worthwhile?
Any suggestions?

There is this on ebay:

Item number: 250147313014

which I have been reading up on. Seems reasonable. Has anyone had
experience of Desulphators?

Are you all the same voltage batteries? Reason I ask is all 4 of my
Trojan 105's boiled away - twice in a month! On replacing them and
reading the charger manual (Xantrex) it quite clearly states that
battery voltages mustn't be mixed. Turns out I had 2 X gel 12v and 4 X
6V wired up. (Wired up by previous owner). I now have all batteries at
12v and shouldn't have a problem.

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If the solar charger is causing problems, it will affect "maintenance
free" even more as they cannot tolerate high charging voltages.
I would use wet lead acid - cheaper to replace than others and get a
solar regulator so that long term float voltage is not too high - no
more than 13.8v for wet acid cool temp. Reduce if ambient temps are
high - above 70F. Batteries do not like heat. It is not the current
from the solar charging that is the problem, it is the voltage.
Gassing starts at 14.4v.

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In article .com,
wrote:
If the solar charger is causing problems, it will affect "maintenance
free" even more as they cannot tolerate high charging voltages.
I would use wet lead acid - cheaper to replace than others and get a
solar regulator so that long term float voltage is not too high - no
more than 13.8v for wet acid cool temp. Reduce if ambient temps are
high - above 70F. Batteries do not like heat. It is not the current
from the solar charging that is the problem, it is the voltage.
Gassing starts at 14.4v.


Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail to check the batts... gotta do it otherwise all the fancy hardware to prevent overcharge, desulify, etc., won't matter. Batteries that can be checked should be checked on a regular basis. I believe you can get an auto-fill kit - no idea how well they work.

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:06:19 -0000, lid (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote:

Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail to check the batts.

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

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"Wayne.B" wrote:

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a
shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a
year.

What's that old saw about "Poor plannimg on your part is not my
problem"?

Lew

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:06:19 -0000, lid
(Jonathan
Ganz) wrote:

Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail
to check the batts.

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed
under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked
once a year.


tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk... a lame excuse for very poor
maintenance.



Poor maintenance = poor seamanship


SBV

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:02:38 GMT, wrote:

Careful, Scotty. He'll wake your ass!

I'm sure someone else will do it for me.

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In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:06:19 -0000, lid (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote:

Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail to check the batts.

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

That's just an excuse. Sounds like a bad location, and in any case, is it not worth the hassle compared to lifting them out to replace them instead?

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On Nov 16, 1:48 am, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
In article ,

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:06:19 -0000, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote:

Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail to check the batts.

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

That's just an excuse. Sounds like a bad location, and in any case, is it not worth the hassle compared to lifting them out to replace them instead?

I looked at the AGM type batteries that need lots less service but
they were cost prohihib. Turned out my batteries were 4 and 6 yrs
old. I replaced em with two more flooded cell types. Will try to
check em more.

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Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

In which case fit an auto watering system. I've got 1500lb of cells
to check under the floor!!

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On 2007-11-17 00:19:29 -0500, "
said:

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

In which case fit an auto watering system. I've got 1500lb of cells to
check under the floor!!

OMG! I believe I could run my *house* for a few days with that much
battery! I can't imagine how many things we could add to the boat to
consume that sort of power.

I'd ask if you were in a sub, except that I seem to recall that they
have even more battery backup.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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On 17 Nov, 12:30, Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-17 00:19:29 -0500, "
said:

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

In which case fit an auto watering system. I've got 1500lb of cells to
check under the floor!!

OMG! I believe I could run my *house* for a few days with that much
battery! I can't imagine how many things we could add to the boat to
consume that sort of power.

I'd ask if you were in a sub, except that I seem to recall that they
have even more battery backup.

Dutch barge - www.luxe-motor-kei.co.uk and cells at
http://www.luxe-motor-kei.co.uk/inte.../image157.html

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:48:21 -0000, lid (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote:

Adding to all this that there's really no excuse to fail to check the batts.

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a shelf
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a year.

That's just an excuse. Sounds like a bad location, and in any case, is it not worth the hassle compared to lifting them out to replace them instead?


It is a bad location for sure but that's the way the boat was built
and there aren't any obvious alternatives other than some sort of
remote filling system.

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"Wayne.B" wrote:

It is a bad location for sure but that's the way the boat was built
and there aren't any obvious alternatives other than some sort of
remote filling system.

Replacement T-105s.

Still may not be easy to check and fill, but at least you could move
them.

Lew

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:55:42 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote:

Easy to say unless you've got a 160 lb 8D batt installed under a
shelf

Last 8D battery I bought from the bulldozer dealer. It weighed about
that and half of it was the acid..It had carrying handles. It was good
for 220AH and cost the same per AH as the average car battery.
..
and behind 4 other batteries. It's lucky to get checked once a
year.

What's that old saw about "Poor plannimg on your part is not my
problem"?

Lew