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Ansley W. Sawyer November 4th 07 11:49 PM

Chain hook
 
Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?

Carabineer, do you think it is strong enough?

Rolling hitch, how well does it hold on chain?

Any thing else?

Just a question for those who are interested.

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem



Bob November 5th 07 12:46 AM

Chain hook
 
On Nov 4, 3:49 pm, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote:
Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?


Okay sorta till the bow starts to jump around



Carabineer, do you think it is strong enough?



NOpe.

Rolling hitch, how well does it hold on chain?



Darn good



Any thing else?



Lots.......... I use a Trawlex chain shackle through a link and then
connect with an eye splice and thimble.
maybe a pelican hook
or there are some special release hardware ya can use. how about a Sea
Catch Toggle Release.
Just got to get out of Westmarine. Pick up a National Fisherman or an
issue of WorkBoat. go online for either. O, another good place for
"real" marine hardware is Boats and Harbors.
Bob





Just a question for those who are interested.

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem




Wayne.B November 5th 07 02:09 AM

Chain hook
 
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:49:26 -0500, "Ansley W. Sawyer"
wrote:

Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?


It "stays" very well as long as there is tension on it. I let out a
15 or 20 ft loop of chain after the chain hook to ensure that there is
always a strain on it. That also creates somewhat of a kellet effect
to increase the catenary.

Jim November 5th 07 12:45 PM

Chain hook
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:49:26 -0500, "Ansley W. Sawyer"
wrote:

Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?


It "stays" very well as long as there is tension on it. I let out a
15 or 20 ft loop of chain after the chain hook to ensure that there is
always a strain on it. That also creates somewhat of a kellet effect
to increase the catenary.


Good thought. I always released the tension in the chain but never
really let additional out. So when things got real calm and I drifted
over the anchor, there wasn't any tension or not enough.

Jim.

Gordon Wedman November 5th 07 05:26 PM

Chain hook
 

"Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote in message
...
Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?

Carabineer, do you think it is strong enough?

Rolling hitch, how well does it hold on chain?

Any thing else?

Just a question for those who are interested.

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem


In another group a fellow suggested using a mainsail reefing hook, the sort
of thing you have fastened at the forward end of your boom. Buy one that
has a good U-shaped curve to it and that will fit through your chain.
Splice some nylon line to it.



Gordon Wedman November 5th 07 10:23 PM

Chain hook
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
"Gordon Wedman" wrote

In another group a fellow suggested using a mainsail reefing hook, the
sort of thing you have fastened at the forward end of your boom.


Another good example of the advice available in these newsgroups being
worth every penny we pay for membership.

Look at a proper chain hook and then at a mainsail reefing hook. Ponder
the cross sections, the material, the anticiapated loads. You won't sleep
with a reefing hook holding your boat in a blow after that.

--
Roger Long


Well given enough "blow" nothing will survive. Its probably adequate for a
smaller boat that's not contemplating riding out a hurricane. For my 25,000
pound boat I have a proper chain hook.



Wayne.B November 6th 07 04:20 AM

Chain hook
 
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:48:47 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Look at a proper chain hook and then at a mainsail reefing hook. Ponder the
cross sections, the material, the anticiapated loads. You won't sleep with
a reefing hook holding your boat in a blow after that.


Exactly right. The chain hook, shackle and hookline all need to be
sized to approximate the Safe Working Load (SWL) of the chain itself.
You really don't want to be losing your hookline under a heavy strain.

JimB[_2_] November 6th 07 12:31 PM

Chain hook
 



"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:49:26 -0500, "Ansley W. Sawyer"
wrote:

Jim has brought up a good point. For those of us who us all chain, how do
you attach your snubber?

Chain hook, how well does it stay?


It "stays" very well as long as there is tension on it. I let out a
15 or 20 ft loop of chain after the chain hook to ensure that there is
always a strain on it. That also creates somewhat of a kellet effect
to increase the catenary.


I've used chain hook and rolling hitch, allways letting out a load of chain
so the rope takes all the strain. Also, I prefer to let out a minimum of 10m
of snubber, often more, to get the elasticity which is essential in really
strong winds (meltemi anchoring in Greece, mainly).

The rolling hitch passed through my hawse, so it could be tied and untied on
deck. It never failed. The chain hook had to be attatched outside the hawse
(fiddly), but was dead easy to drop off when bringing it in. I gave up the
chain hook because, in shallower anchorages, I couldn't use more snubber
line than the depth. If the hook rubbed the ground in light conditions, it
came off - unless I had captured it with some sort of seizing or wiring. And
that was just one more step too fiddly me . . .
--
JimB
Google 'jimb sail' or go www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com
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