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Bob October 29th 07 10:34 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 1:26 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

That series got me started diving. I still have my double-hose reg. I used
to have two steel 52s. When I first got them, I tried the old
toss-the-tanks-over-my-head-to-put-them-on thing. Man, that didn't work
without a lot of hurt.



Alright ! !

That regulator a US DIvers Aquamaster???
Got mine too. I think its been 15 years since i actually used it. But
just cant get the courage to give my loyal Royal Aqumaster away.

Of course you know why ya couldnt just toss thoes doubles over your
head???????
Ya just not man enough! That move was capable only by the Great Mike
Nelson ! I thought you knew nobody can equal his many underwater feats
of courage and strength.........

Bob


Capt. JG October 29th 07 11:15 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Bob" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 29, 1:26 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

That series got me started diving. I still have my double-hose reg. I
used
to have two steel 52s. When I first got them, I tried the old
toss-the-tanks-over-my-head-to-put-them-on thing. Man, that didn't work
without a lot of hurt.



Alright ! !

That regulator a US DIvers Aquamaster???
Got mine too. I think its been 15 years since i actually used it. But
just cant get the courage to give my loyal Royal Aqumaster away.

Of course you know why ya couldnt just toss thoes doubles over your
head???????
Ya just not man enough! That move was capable only by the Great Mike
Nelson ! I thought you knew nobody can equal his many underwater feats
of courage and strength.........

Bob



Yep... I used to have an even older serial numbered one, but it was stolen
years ago. The rubber low-pressure hoses are no good any more, but they're
still attached.

The reason I couldn't was because he used 38s not 52s. :-) FYI, he did it on
land, not just underwater... underwater is easy.


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Jere Lull October 30th 07 01:42 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On 2007-10-27 08:22:45 -0400, Geoff Schultz said:

Skip certainly has had more than his share of problems, and many of
them are self inflicted, but he's out there doing it and hopefully
learning from his mistakes. Many of the so-called experts in this
forum spend all of their time behind a computer and quote text books
instead of actually cruising. Maybe Skip is crazy by documenting his
adventures and misfortunes in such a public fashion, but I give him
credit for not giving up.


BINGO!

I rag on him on occasion, but generally because I forget how new he and
Lydia are to cruising. They have researched things and intellectually
"know" so much that I expect more that can be reasonably expected.

BUT, even experienced sailors in their home turf can make mistakes.

Case in point: Last weekend, we sorta hosted a raft-up of Tanzers.
Someone else called the rendezvous, but I refined the location to the
anchorage nearest to our dock. This is an anchorage we anchored in
probably 30 days this season. (for those that know the Chesapeake, this
is Fairlee Creek.)

But, because it was after the powerboats' season, I chose to try out
just behind the sand spit, normally clogged up with "them".

'Tis a WONDERFUL spot. We could see everyone coming in the channel
through 3+ foot Chesapeake chop while we luxuriated in nearly flat
conditions on the other side of the spit. The view of the full moon
coming up was inspirational.

But, I neglected to consider what happens when 20+ knot winds shift
from southerly to northerly on the Bay. Been there before, but this
time I just didn't think about the effects of such a shift.

About 1 AM we noticed we were aground and at about 10 degree heel.

By 3 AM, that was 35 degrees by our inclinometer.

By 6 AM (with high tide at 9:30), things weren't better, so it's time
to call Towboat US. They got to us a bit before high tide and pulled
both of us off with pretty much zero problem. I don't believe he
actually dialed up to full power as we were spit like watermelon seeds
the 100 or so feet to sufficient water.

Our sister rafted up to us reported 50 degree heel, but I never saw
higher than 35 (and our mast was always further over than theirs.)

Which is part of an indication of our difference in acceptance of our
shared plight. Pat and I got pretty good sleep that night. We were
heeled over so had to sleep pretty much on the side of the boat in
separate berths, (separate berths always disturbs our sleep), but there
weren't any creaks or groans from the boat, we weren't pounding or in
any evident danger, so we slept as soundly as we normally do, waiting
for high tide.

Our sister's distaff admiral wasn't as sanguine. She was literally sick
that night, probably got no real sleep, and called for a land-ride home
the next morning. Their poor captain probably is still catching a load
of baggage from my mistake.

Oh, my primary mistake? Forgetting that anchorages can have different
bottoms and holding in different areas. I "knew" that anchorage so well
that I expected the bottom next to the sand spit to be like the rest of
the anchorage: so forgiving that I don't even bother to back down on
the anchor. any more Only after a bit of thought did I realize that an
area easily swept of all water would be hard sand rather than lots of
mud. My clue should have been no vegetation bouncing the depth
soundings to impossible shallows as I came in.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Jere Lull October 30th 07 02:11 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On 2007-10-28 04:31:13 -0400, " said:

The last edition of _The Complete Book of Anchoring and Mooring_ came
out in 2001


Minor non-sequitor: I was gifted a signed copy from his uncle, one of
the stable of authors I'd accumulated in a minor publication.

Personally, his uncle was a more entertaining writer, but I've learned
a lot from the nephew.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Bob October 30th 07 03:18 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 2:42 pm, wrote:


Lloyd Bridges taught English and Drama at my school until Hollywood called. He
had a close friend who was struggling to make it in Hollywood at the time, so
they sort of "traded places". The other fellow spent the next 30+ years
teaching the same subjects at the school. I still occasionally correspond with
both of ther widows.


Hey,
Cool....... ! What high school?? Please pass to Mrs. Bridges just how
much thoes Sea Hunt programs affected so many kids. It letteraly
change my life. I spent the majority of my life around the water
because of that program. Somthing about them that created a life long
adventure.

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


Bruce in Bangkok October 30th 07 09:59 AM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:42:57 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-10-27 08:22:45 -0400, Geoff Schultz said:

Skip certainly has had more than his share of problems, and many of
them are self inflicted, but he's out there doing it and hopefully
learning from his mistakes. Many of the so-called experts in this
forum spend all of their time behind a computer and quote text books
instead of actually cruising. Maybe Skip is crazy by documenting his
adventures and misfortunes in such a public fashion, but I give him
credit for not giving up.


BINGO!

I rag on him on occasion, but generally because I forget how new he and
Lydia are to cruising. They have researched things and intellectually
"know" so much that I expect more that can be reasonably expected.

BUT, even experienced sailors in their home turf can make mistakes.

Case in point: Last weekend, we sorta hosted a raft-up of Tanzers.
Someone else called the rendezvous, but I refined the location to the
anchorage nearest to our dock. This is an anchorage we anchored in
probably 30 days this season. (for those that know the Chesapeake, this
is Fairlee Creek.)

But, because it was after the powerboats' season, I chose to try out
just behind the sand spit, normally clogged up with "them".

'Tis a WONDERFUL spot. We could see everyone coming in the channel
through 3+ foot Chesapeake chop while we luxuriated in nearly flat
conditions on the other side of the spit. The view of the full moon
coming up was inspirational.

But, I neglected to consider what happens when 20+ knot winds shift
from southerly to northerly on the Bay. Been there before, but this
time I just didn't think about the effects of such a shift.

About 1 AM we noticed we were aground and at about 10 degree heel.

By 3 AM, that was 35 degrees by our inclinometer.


Some snipped

I think the big difference between Skip and the rest of us is that
Skip doesn't appear to be shy about chronicling his screw-ups. If it
were me and I had dragged two or three times in the same area I'd keep
it a deep dark secret. Skip 'fesses up to his short comings.

I certainly don't tell people about the time I sailed into a bay
depending on a 50 year old survey only to discover that coral grows
quite a bit in 50 years, or the time I tried to pick up a mooring only
to discover that the "orange ball" wasn't a mooring, it was a buoy the
local fishermen put out to mark shallow water.

To quote an old saying, "there are people who have run aground, people
who are going to run aground and damned liars".

Skip certainly don't fall in the last group.




Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Skip Gundlach October 30th 07 02:52 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 29, 11:18 pm, Bob wrote:

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


I was born a poor black child and never had TV until I bought my own
in college. However, some of my more privileged friends had TVs so I
got to see a couple of episodes. I liked that and Sky King about
equally. Flipper was beyond my childhood, so I didn't bother with it;
I couldn't tell you a thing about that show. Back to Sea Hunt,
though:

That wasn't the motivator, however, for all my underwater stuff - it
was the flying that captivated me since the time I could see an
airplane; there's a picture of me at 4 standing with one of the free
gliders which came in the Wheaties I used to eat just for the prize.
Underwater is as close to flying as my impoverished upbringing and
adulthood would allow - weightless, above the ground (bottom). Being
a low brass player gave me pretty good underwater times; I've never
owned and only rarely used SCUBA gear but I have a hookah rig aboard,
which, if I ever get back into warm water, will get a lot of use.

And, an aside in the huge thread creep, answering another unrelated
question, no, I've never worked for a bank,let alone been president of
one. Being of no social standing, no social skills even if I were
genealogically enhanced, and little intellect, not to mention ugly,
I've been unemployed for more than 20 of the last 25 years before I
withdrew from the rat race (the rats were winning) to concentrate on
finding and then buying, and then refitting, our home.

New installment of our grounding and anchoring skills coming soon :{))

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power
to make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)


Capt. JG October 30th 07 05:07 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 29, 11:18 pm, Bob wrote:

On the other hand, I never really got into Flipper that much, sort of
a Lassie of the 'glades. Just didnt do it for me. Ah, but Sea Hunt,
now that was some excellent TV.....

I wonder if Skip watched Sea Hunt?
Bob


I was born a poor black child and never had TV until I bought my own
in college. However, some of my more privileged friends had TVs so I
got to see a couple of episodes. I liked that and Sky King about
equally. Flipper was beyond my childhood, so I didn't bother with it;
I couldn't tell you a thing about that show. Back to Sea Hunt,
though:

That wasn't the motivator, however, for all my underwater stuff - it
was the flying that captivated me since the time I could see an
airplane; there's a picture of me at 4 standing with one of the free
gliders which came in the Wheaties I used to eat just for the prize.
Underwater is as close to flying as my impoverished upbringing and
adulthood would allow - weightless, above the ground (bottom). Being
a low brass player gave me pretty good underwater times; I've never
owned and only rarely used SCUBA gear but I have a hookah rig aboard,
which, if I ever get back into warm water, will get a lot of use.

And, an aside in the huge thread creep, answering another unrelated
question, no, I've never worked for a bank,let alone been president of
one. Being of no social standing, no social skills even if I were
genealogically enhanced, and little intellect, not to mention ugly,
I've been unemployed for more than 20 of the last 25 years before I
withdrew from the rat race (the rats were winning) to concentrate on
finding and then buying, and then refitting, our home.

New installment of our grounding and anchoring skills coming soon :{))

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power
to make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)



Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bob October 30th 07 07:42 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
On Oct 30, 9:07 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:


Wow.. that brings up memories... I couldn't get enough of Sky King.


"Brought to you by Nibisco......."

However, now that I think about it, I used to watch Diver Dan before Sea
Hunt.



DIver Dan????????? that must be way before my time. Humm, I may have
to google that 2nite

Ya, its amazing how that old TV stuff is stuck in my brain. I wish I
could remember other stuff that well
BOb



Rosalie B. October 30th 07 09:56 PM

October 26 - What A Drag!
 
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:32 -0700, Bob said:

Ya, its amazing how that old TV stuff is stuck in my brain.


Aw, you young whippersnappers with your TV.

Let's hear it for Straight Arrow, The Shadow and the Green Hornet.


And the Fat Man, Suspense, and the Lone Ranger. My mom wouldn't let
me listen to any of them except the Lone Ranger. :-(

We could listen to Ozzie and Harriet, the Aldridge Family,
Gildersleeve, Fibber McGee and Molly and Amos and Andy.

I didn't watch TV much until after I graduated college and had
children. We didn't have a TV when we were first married (1959).

I remember Sea Hunt, but probably not like you guys do, and I also
remember Sky King. I don't think I watched either of them much. I
did watch Flipper - we had two kids by then. I also watched Captain
Kangaroo.



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