"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:59:17 -0600, Paul Cassel
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I find alcohol the least favorable fuel. It not only isn't very hot,

Not hot? Way hotter than red hot is what it is. If the cookware
doesn't absorb heat fast enough, it isn't the temperature, it is the
size of the fire. If you tell me that all available alcohol stoves
have insufficient output, OK. It is not a necessary characteristic of
the fuel. The exhaust system on my alcohol burning car runs yellow
hot. How hot do you need? They make these nice very wide mouth five
gallon plastic jugs, round and rectangular. About 15 bucks. Car racers
use them. Nice thick polyethylene, really sturdy. They are good for
water too. Many car parts stores sell them, you don't need a special
racer's shop, if there is such a thing. The methanol you can get from
a truck at the sprint car races. By far the cheapest source. Indy cars
also use it, so you can't say it is a wimpy fuel. 100 octane. So is
propane. There is a bumboat that sells stuff to the crews of the
Lakers. It sells propane. Ore boats use it for cooking. They don't
worry about a leak setting the taconite on fire. They do have their
large home size tanks out on deck, in the wind. They could easily have
an electric stove if they wanted one.. Crew size is 29, that much
cooking. I wish I had a propane stove, but whatever.

Casady

I have a pressure alcohol stove on Essie and I like it a lot. Fuel is
readily available throughout the States, a gallon lasts me about forever
since I don't really use it much (maybe a dozen times each summer), but when
I do it will boil a kettle of water in less than 10 minutes. Would propane
be hotter and boil that water faster? Possibly. But it would also cost about
$1500 to replace my working stove. That will buy about 750 gallons of
alcohol.

People complain about "flares" with pressure stoves. I've never had one that
wasn't entirely my fault, and not at all since I learned to use it properly.
I might consider converting the stove to pressure kerosene some day, but for
now, alcohol is just fine with me.