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David Scheidt October 9th 07 06:18 PM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
Bob wrote:

:other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
:effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.

Showing there aren't any?


Bob October 11th 07 12:55 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On Oct 9, 10:18 am, David Scheidt wrote:
Bob wrote:

:other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
:effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.

Showing there aren't any?




Howday......

Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
amount.

So I don't use Al cookware or Al forks and spoons ya find when third
worlding it. Also, potable water tanks. Ya know its kinda like using
Al stranded wire in your AC and DC boat system. Now why would you NOT
want Al wire, ANY amount, on your boat??????

But like I said b4 lots will say at 8 ppm it aint no problemo. Good on
mate for your tuff life style. Sorry, I wont drink an 8 ppm solution
of cyanide either.

Best o luck. Go with 316L for any size boat. Im not rich, in fact I
take home $2000/mo and my boat gets the best. Now why would I do that?

Bob



David Scheidt October 11th 07 01:27 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
Bob wrote:
:On Oct 9, 10:18 am, David Scheidt wrote:
: Bob wrote:
:
: :other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
: :effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.
:
: Showing there aren't any?



:Howday......

:Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
:Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
:amount.

You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
just fine without you.


[email protected] October 11th 07 02:56 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

Bob wrote:
:On Oct 9, 10:18 am, David Scheidt wrote:
: Bob wrote:
:
: :other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
: :effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.
:
: Showing there aren't any?



:Howday......

:Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
:Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
:amount.

You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
just fine without you.


Interesting as most of the 3rd world cooks using aluminum pots and
alzimers (which was one of the most common ailments attributed to
aluminum) doesn't seem to be a major problem.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

David Scheidt October 11th 07 04:25 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
wrote:
:On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

:Bob wrote:
::On Oct 9, 10:18 am, David Scheidt wrote:
:: Bob wrote:
::
:: :other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
:: :effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.
::
:: Showing there aren't any?
:
:
:
::Howday......
:
::Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
::Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
::amount.
:
:You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
:just fine without you.

:Interesting as most of the 3rd world cooks using aluminum pots and
:alzimers (which was one of the most common ailments attributed to
:aluminum) doesn't seem to be a major problem.

Correlation is not causation. The studies that started the aluminum
scare-mongering showed that alzheimers victims had raised levels of
aluminum in the plaques in their brains. It didn't show that exposure
to aluminum caused alzheimers. Considering the amount of aluminum
that people are exposed to from natural sources, it's very unlikely
that aluminum is a cause or even a factor in Alzheimers.

There are people that are allergic to aluminum, and there are health
risks of excessive aluminum consumption. But you get more aluminum
from a couple of antacids than you do from years of drinking out of a
water tank.

[email protected] October 11th 07 05:21 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On Oct 10, 8:25 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
wrote:

:On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt

wrote:
:Bob wrote:

::On Oct 9, 10:18 am, David Scheidt wrote::: Bob wrote:

::
:: :other hand, is death to an oyster. Do a little research regarding
:: :effects of Aluminum on our brain. So goes with many plastics.
::
:: Showing there aren't any?
:
:
:
::Howday......
:
::Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
::Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
::amount.
:
:You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
:just fine without you.

:Interesting as most of the 3rd world cooks using aluminum pots and
:alzimers (which was one of the most common ailments attributed to
:aluminum) doesn't seem to be a major problem.

Correlation is not causation. The studies that started the aluminum
scare-mongering showed that alzheimers victims had raised levels of
aluminum in the plaques in their brains. It didn't show that exposure
to aluminum caused alzheimers. Considering the amount of aluminum
that people are exposed to from natural sources, it's very unlikely
that aluminum is a cause or even a factor in Alzheimers.

There are people that are allergic to aluminum, and there are health
risks of excessive aluminum consumption. But you get more aluminum
from a couple of antacids than you do from years of drinking out of a
water tank.


Hey there,

Its not the same stuff

Good luck and have fun. I support your right to eat anything you
want.................uh, that is untill I have to start paying for
your choices through increased taxes or increased insurance rates.
Live long and prosper.
Bob


Jere Lull October 11th 07 06:07 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On 2007-10-10 21:56:38 -0400, said:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

Bob wrote:

Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
amount.


You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
just fine without you.


Interesting as most of the 3rd world cooks using aluminum pots and
Alzimers (which was one of the most common ailments attributed to
aluminum) doesn't seem to be a major problem.


I don't believe it's a particular problem either, BUT yours isn't a
great argument as the 3rd world doesn't *store* food in aluminum
containers.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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[email protected] October 11th 07 10:28 AM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:07:48 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-10-10 21:56:38 -0400, said:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

Bob wrote:

Without reviewing the salient body of literature regarding effects of
Al on humans I'll just say: I believe Aluminum in humans is bad.... Any
amount.

You're welcome to believe anything you'd like. Reality will get along
just fine without you.


Interesting as most of the 3rd world cooks using aluminum pots and
Alzimers (which was one of the most common ailments attributed to
aluminum) doesn't seem to be a major problem.


I don't believe it's a particular problem either, BUT yours isn't a
great argument as the 3rd world doesn't *store* food in aluminum
containers.


You are right. "Storing food" ,other then the year's rice crop, is
usually either over night or until someone happens to feel peckish.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

Martin Baxter October 11th 07 02:40 PM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
David Scheidt wrote:


There are people that are allergic to aluminum, and there are health
risks of excessive aluminum consumption. But you get more aluminum
from a couple of antacids than you do from years of drinking out of a
water tank.


Not to mention skin absorption from antiperspirants, sun block,
moisturizers........

Cheers
Marty

Bob October 11th 07 05:28 PM

Water tanks - alum or plastic?
 
On Oct 11, 6:40 am, Martin Baxter wrote:

There are people that are allergic to aluminum, and there are health
risks of excessive aluminum consumption. But you get more aluminum
from a couple of antacids than you do from years of drinking out of a
water tank.


Not to mention skin absorption from antiperspirants, sun block,
moisturizers........


Cheers
Marty


Hi All......

Ya I guess I your right. Really cant argue against, "we are exposed to
lots of it so it cant be harmful." Pretty air tight case Id say. Maybe
we should also use that argument for lead and mercury. We could go
back to lead water supply pipes and using mercury as a medicine.

Oh, and welders shouldn't mind welding galvanized (zinc) materials
cause we get zinc in our One-A-Day vitamins. Gee, if zinc is in our
vitamins its got to be okay to breath the vapors when welding. You
know, if some is good, more is better!

Once again, someone here offered a bit of conservative advice and then
the majority here said, Al is safe cause we all use it. How liberal is
that.....?! Lets see, everybody is smoking pot. I should smoke pot too.
A little wont do anything. Besides, the US gov always over exaggerates
safety levels.

However, I did feel somewhat compelled to offer a safer more
conservitive alternitive. Regardless......... Im sticking with 316L
water tanks..... Oh, I also use AWAB hose clamps. Why, cost-labor-life
curves make them the cheepest to buy. AWAB hose clams the
cheepest?!?!?!? No way say the liberals. But a conservatve will
understand and see the savings.
Bob




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