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4th FL trip report, shorter, this time!
Greetings and felicitations :{))
wrote in message ... I think the galley looks quite impressive. I would move those sinks to the centerline if they aren't there already, but you can't tell easily The sinks are not on the centerline - the edge of the counter is about at centerline (note mast position), and to do that would interfere with the companionway and even the access into the galley. If I were redoing it, I could move it to the edge, however, which would be pretty close. However, there are strap hooks, and it's not far off center, so I don't know that I'd go to that expense. Can you suggest why it would be a good idea to spend that rehab money to move it closer? from the photo. Do the tender and davits come with the boat? Oh, dear... It appears I wasn't clear. The boat you're speaking of is the 'cruising boat' - and the tender and motor are gone, as referred to in the original. However, the very stout davits do come with *that* boat. The one we've offered on has no davits, but does have a roll-up and a new motor. The one we've offered on, with the attorney/owner, is http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...16&slim=quick&, and video frame shots of it can be found in http://justpickone.org/skip/gallery under High Time, along with some of the considered modifications at M46Mod, taken from Lydia's second choice, also very rehabbed, but even more expensive. Looks generally good and the price is good, too, probably because she is well into middle age and cosmetically a little worn and old fashioned in layout and trim. Indeed. Yet, that's also the one which *I* think could have the mods above done pretty reasonably. I'm getting a firm quote this evening. Or, as many would say, well-seasoned and seamanlike. I know you don't require reminding, but I think your trouble spots would include deck rot/wet spots (are Morgans solid laminate under deck gear? Are there backing plates?) and areas like the partners, engine mounts, shaft These boats were solid hulls, and plywood cored decks with solid areas of attaching/through points. Backing material on all stuff. The offer boat has also had the screws for the toe rail replaced with through-bolts, along with other similar upgrades on other attachment points. log, thru-hulls, rudder posts, steering linkages, roller-reefing and so on, if not regularly upgraded and maintained. The habits of the P.O. are usually visible (updated flares, wood plugs beside thru-hulls, good selection of spares, maintenance logs, post-market I've not seen but one boat with the plugs next to the through-hulls, but that's what I'll do on any boat I own. upgrades in lighting, beefed-up wiring and so on--if half of that is present, it's a very good sign). Mast work is probably needed, but a Most of that is present in the offer boat, and the rigging is pretty recent, upgraded. redo of all the standing rigging would be automatic for me before extensive cruising, if only to provide a baseline for my time of salt-water ownership. Probably a few new blocks and lines, too, although I would use a ratty 10-year old sheet any day over an original tang at the masthead on a 25 year old salty boat. There's always another sheet aboard, and racers throw out hundreds of feet of perfectly good dirty Spectra and Vectran a year at my club G. Heh. I've got to come hang around your club :{)) Extensive cruising creates extensive wear and extensive opportunities to correct and even improve beyond factory the effects of extensive wear. My boat is sounder now than when new in 1973, but looks pretty rough. Looks count for little in my book, and layout and "sensible, moderate, robust" systems and ease of access count for a lot. Your That's always been my driving factor, but Lydia's got a point in contending that this will be our home, as well as the difficulty of addressing that later, with all of our stuff aboard, or, perhaps, not at all, when it represents an additional expenditure and we'd rather keep in the kitty... So, I'd be tickled with the 'cruising' boat, but also can't deny that the 'offer' boat is extremely well equipped and in great condition right from the start. special height requirements narrowed the field considerably, and I would like to see your "dream short list" if money and head clearance weren't an issue, with an emphasis on stowage, passagemaking ability and pure sailing pleasure. Like, say, you were six foot tall and you had $250,000 to spend. What would you have considered in a used but sound cruiser? I'm always looking to make the bucks go further, so, assuming I'm getting into a class of boat which can be bought new for that amount, or a sound used cruiser, I'd still have to consider the fact of ongoing maintenance. One of the brokers I've worked with is also a new Beneteau dealer, and makes the point of the various warranties and new vs. worn condition of new vs 'used' boats. He's got a point - but if I could get a great deal more boat in excellent condition, and have a substantial reserve for maintenance, I'd probably do that instead of blowing it all on a new one, because, as they say, "stuff" happens... Good luck and I hope the deal goes your way. Frankly, the "lawyer" getting the dead guy's boat sounds dodgy, and I'd check for liens, off-the-books refinancing deals or whether the thing is collateral in a high-stakes poker game involving a drug lord. Heh. We'll do our due diligence on it. I'm not thrilled with the scenario, and because I'm a couple of layers removed, and it's not been worth making an issue of it, I don't know how it happened. I might get my broker to chat up the other on the subject in conversation, just to see if he'll say how it happened. The fact that it is listed as an estate sale, when, now, it's clearly not, suggests the transition happened during the time of the listing. If you're lucky, it's legit and the lawyer will just bill you for his hours spent selling it to you. G Heh. At most lawyers' rates, it could be worse than the counter! L8R Skip (and Lydia, by proxy) -- "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
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