www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html

In article ,
"Wim" wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?

Similar thing happened to me nearly 20 years ago on my first honeymoon:
Tickets were for Mr & Mrs, but she never did change her name. Cost us a
ticket change at the time, not a completley new ticket.

I can well imagine that either the rules have tightened up, OR that the
people in the story gave the airline rep(s) an unnecessarily nasty time.
All that was required was that she travel under a name that they can
positively identify. That doesn't seem unreasonable.

Similarly, I suspect trying to enter *any* country with a name that
can't be positively identified by your ID could give problems, but I
don't think that's a real change.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
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In article ,
"Wim" wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?

Similar thing happened to me nearly 20 years ago on my first honeymoon:
Tickets were for Mr & Mrs, but she never did change her name. Cost us a
ticket change at the time, not a completley new ticket.

I can well imagine that either the rules have tightened up, OR that the
people in the story gave the airline rep(s) an unnecessarily nasty time.
All that was required was that she travel under a name that they can
positively identify. That doesn't seem unreasonable.

Similarly, I suspect trying to enter *any* country with a name that
can't be positively identified by your ID could give problems, but I
don't think that's a real change.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:59:17 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?

Cross-posting to rec.travel.air

Allegedly a person who was denied boarding because her ticket was in
her married name and passport was in maiden name was told she could
fly if she bought a new ticket at full walkup fare under her maiden
name....people can make money at this security stuff....

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:59:17 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?

Cross-posting to rec.travel.air

Allegedly a person who was denied boarding because her ticket was in
her married name and passport was in maiden name was told she could
fly if she bought a new ticket at full walkup fare under her maiden
name....people can make money at this security stuff....

"people can make money at this security stuff...."

Who's is losing the money ;-)?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Dick Locke" wrote in message
...
: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:59:17 -0500, "Wim" wrote:
:
: www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm
:
: Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
: Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become
orange?
: A rhetorical question?
:
: Cross-posting to rec.travel.air
:
: Allegedly a person who was denied boarding because her ticket was in
: her married name and passport was in maiden name was told she could
: fly if she bought a new ticket at full walkup fare under her maiden
: name....people can make money at this security stuff....
:

"people can make money at this security stuff...."

Who's is losing the money ;-)?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Dick Locke" wrote in message
...
: On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:59:17 -0500, "Wim" wrote:
:
: www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm
:
: Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
: Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become
orange?
: A rhetorical question?
:
: Cross-posting to rec.travel.air
:
: Allegedly a person who was denied boarding because her ticket was in
: her married name and passport was in maiden name was told she could
: fly if she bought a new ticket at full walkup fare under her maiden
: name....people can make money at this security stuff....
:

Wim wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html

It's just another example of how the "feel good" (i.e. the stuff we as
normal people see and hear about ... not the stuff we don't know
happens) security doesn't really do much or work for that matter.

I travel quite a bit and last year ('03) alone I've seen -

Two people who id'ed themselves as doctors board a plane carrying full
field surgery kits, complete with a full range of cutters (saw it at the
security inspection)

Children max out the metal detector and not get stopped or searched (saw
it at the security inspection at Dulles no less)

Luggage board an aircraft that the passenger missed (me!! My stuff made
all the connections, I missed the first one!)


I feel absolutely no safer today on a commercial craft than I did 5
years ago.


To keep this on topic, as anyone ever been stopped in International
waters and hassled because they did not have "adequate id"? Only had a
driver's license and a passport and was never told what was "adequate",
only a "thank-you for your cooperation, have a nice day" after a couple
of hours.

Wim wrote:

www.commondreams.org/views03/1231-04.htm

Can this happen to a US boater with a crew/passengers?
Re-entering a USA port at the "wrong time" when the alert has become orange?
A rhetorical question?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html

It's just another example of how the "feel good" (i.e. the stuff we as
normal people see and hear about ... not the stuff we don't know
happens) security doesn't really do much or work for that matter.

I travel quite a bit and last year ('03) alone I've seen -

Two people who id'ed themselves as doctors board a plane carrying full
field surgery kits, complete with a full range of cutters (saw it at the
security inspection)

Children max out the metal detector and not get stopped or searched (saw
it at the security inspection at Dulles no less)

Luggage board an aircraft that the passenger missed (me!! My stuff made
all the connections, I missed the first one!)


I feel absolutely no safer today on a commercial craft than I did 5
years ago.


To keep this on topic, as anyone ever been stopped in International
waters and hassled because they did not have "adequate id"? Only had a
driver's license and a passport and was never told what was "adequate",
only a "thank-you for your cooperation, have a nice day" after a couple
of hours.