On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:51:43 -0700, wrote:

Its clear why you were a English major.


I love it.... "Nuclear fusion at a molecular level"
Funniest thing I've seen in a while.
You missed the viruses smaller than a chloride ion. Smaller than water
he said. Then there was the carbon molecules.

Casady

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:38:15 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

We'll have none of that here. In this group, we obey the laws of
thermodynamics!



Yeah, entropy.

I turned 60 in May and that word assumed a new meaning.

Casady

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:18:23 -0700, wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
I've forgotten most of this stuff (it was in the mid-80s). Basically,
the ions cannot respond to the RF but the very light electrons can so
it is the eelctrons in the water doing the work and being heated. A
mist might work but I remember that the discharge was very close to
the electrodes and fell off rapidly as you got away from them. This
guy probably has electrodes very close together.

That makes sense, since the field strength drops off so fast as a
function of distance. How about emitting RF thru a screen or flat
plane emitter; maybe there is some promise a modulated fuel cell with
water mist or vapor pushed thru a carefully controlled RF chamber,
then re-converted almost immediately? If there is a net energy gain in
the reaction, then it should be much better than any hydrogen fuel
cell I've heard of.... Get it worked out, I'll draft a letter to the
BP board, I'm a stockholder.... you can split the royalties with me.


Regards
Doug King


Seems I remember a high school chemistry experiment. Submerge an
electric arc in distilled water and wave a lighted match across the
top of the beaker and produce fire.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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We never had the _right_ to bear arms like in the US constitution.
After the security tightening all licensed holders of shotgun or other gun
permits had to show real need to be allowed to keep them. Reputable
gunshop businesses were forced to close and a couple of owners of them
committed suicide as their livelihood was taken away without
compensatioon.
Many shotgun owners like myself voluntarily gave up our shotguns to the
police for destruction because for the sake of the occasional vermin shoot
we could not be arsed to cope with all the bureaucracy. But the criminals
did not give up their guns and gun crime in UK has increased ever since.

So you'd rather have the US system? Look at the figures and think about it.
The British health system is flawed too but would you want to swap it for
the US one?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:09:52 +0700, wrote:




Seems I remember a high school chemistry experiment. Submerge an
electric arc in distilled water and wave a lighted match across the
top of the beaker and produce fire.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)


That was my eigth grade (nearly fifty years ago) science fair project.
Made an electrolosis device. Would work with either tap water with a
small jolt of sulpheric acid to increase conductivity, or salt water.

Two insulated elctrodes (carbon rods from old batteries) minor amount
of DC charge, and the electrodes begin to precipitate gasses. Pure
hydrogen on one, regardless of the fluid. Either oxygen (water with
acid charge) or chlorine gas, (sal****er).

Really impressed the local judges when every few seconds you could
take the collection test tube of Hydrogen, turn it over, expose it to
a flame and have it "pop".

I couldn't use the salt water fluid at the science fair, they didn't
want chlorine gas, even in small quantities, floating about.

Certainly nothing "breakthrough" about it. More BTU's in than out.
been done forever it seems.

Won second place in my category at the local fair. Didn't even place
at the state fair.

Frank

"JohnM" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

We never had the _right_ to bear arms like in the US constitution.
After the security tightening all licensed holders of shotgun or other
gun permits had to show real need to be allowed to keep them. Reputable
gunshop businesses were forced to close and a couple of owners of them
committed suicide as their livelihood was taken away without
compensatioon.
Many shotgun owners like myself voluntarily gave up our shotguns to the
police for destruction because for the sake of the occasional vermin
shoot we could not be arsed to cope with all the bureaucracy. But the
criminals did not give up their guns and gun crime in UK has increased
ever since.

So you'd rather have the US system? Look at the figures and think about
it.
The British health system is flawed too but would you want to swap it for
the US one?

No, I would not prefer the US system. I would have preferred that the
British police left people alone who were law-abiding citizens using guns
for sport, and wish that when they were advised that one of these citizens
is developing worrying behaviour patterns they had taken appropriate action
which would have saved many children and one teacher's lives.
As to the health service, no. I would not swap the British one for the US
system but the British one is heavily flawed by excessive bureaucracy. They
should let the medical staff ahve more power and should never have got rid
of the famous post of Matron who had total control of nursing and what went
on in the wards. Now even cleaning is contracted out and you stand a good
chance of contracting MRSA bugs in the hospitals.
My wife and I got fed up with the situation successive governments have
brought to the UK. It is unrecognisable as the country I was brought up in
and accordingly at a somewhat advanced age we emigrated four years ago to a
country where everything still works like clockwork and the health service
puts that of the UK to shame. Since we came here four years ago I have not
once been back.

In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:

Me wrote:
Bzzzt, Wrong answer, Would you like to try for what is behind
Curtain #3????

Hydrogen burns with an "Almost Invisible Flame" in the near UltraViolet
Region of the Color Spectrum. The Flames seen at the Hindenberg Disaster
were significantly "Yellow" in Spectrum, which shows that the majority
of the visibale flames were from other substances burning, like the
Aluminized Doped Fabric of the Outer Covering, and the Rubberized
GasBags, themselves.

Me who at least can read a ColoromMeter......

How do you know the flames were yellow, when the pictures were all
monochrome?

Andy

I witness accounts..... duh.....

You wrote:
In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:

Me wrote:
Bzzzt, Wrong answer, Would you like to try for what is behind
Curtain #3????

Hydrogen burns with an "Almost Invisible Flame" in the near UltraViolet
Region of the Color Spectrum. The Flames seen at the Hindenberg Disaster
were significantly "Yellow" in Spectrum, which shows that the majority
of the visibale flames were from other substances burning, like the
Aluminized Doped Fabric of the Outer Covering, and the Rubberized
GasBags, themselves.

Me who at least can read a ColoromMeter......
How do you know the flames were yellow, when the pictures were all
monochrome?

Andy

I witness accounts..... duh.....

No need to try to sound like Wilma. Just give me a reference.

Andy

"You" wrote in message
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I witness accounts..... duh.....

Is that the same as ewe witness accounts or are you an auditor ?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:23:46 GMT, You wrote this
crap:


Me who at least can read a ColoromMeter......

How do you know the flames were yellow, when the pictures were all
monochrome?

Andy

I witness accounts..... duh.....


But all the people who were there, are dead.




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