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Where is Skip and the Flying Pig?
On Sep 12, 10:21 pm, Larry wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote : Larry -- Search youtube for "DepletedUranium" The ultimate dirty bomb...... The above individual seems to haunt Usenet groups pushing a DVD Beyond Treason; this might even be commercial use of Usenet because the DVD is sold through Amazon and other stores .. it is also full of trash talk about the United States. The people on it who speak about Depleted Uranium, which is not even a bomb, let alone a dirty bomb and uranium is the last substance that you would use for a dirty bomb since it extremely weakly radioactive .. what the trash talkers fail to tell you is that a half-life of 4.5 billion years means that it is so weakly radioactive that half of the isotope decays to lead in 4.5 billion years, the age of the Earth. Polonium, on the other hand, the 210 isotope is believed to have killed the former Russian Agent in London, has a half-life of 21 days. That type of radioactive substance is deadly. The anti-DU crusade began when Saddam wanted out from under the UN Sanctions that ended the Gulf War and he wanted to make the US/UK look like the real ogres -- the "peace movement" that visited Iraq before the fall of Baghdad bought into this; they were shown horrific pictures of supposed defective child birth monstrosities which still circulate around the net. They have no connection to DU other than that you are told that they do. For some real facts about DU, go to DUStory at Yahoo Groups.com or write me .. I will send you links to factual articles .from all over go see what real scientists have to say instead of activists who just pretend to be scientists or scientists who decided activism trumped science. Roger Helbig rwhelbig at gee mail dot com |
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"Rhotel1" wrote in message oups.com... For some real facts about DU, go to DUStory at Yahoo Groups.com or write me .. I will send you links to factual articles .from all over go see what real scientists have to say instead of activists who just pretend to be scientists or scientists who decided activism trumped science. Roger Helbig rwhelbig at gee mail dot com Ah. You mean those who agree with you. Gotcha. |
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Rhotel1 wrote in news:1190342591.053077.317800
@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com: The above individual seems to haunt Usenet groups pushing a DVD Beyond Treason; this might even be commercial use of Usenet because the DVD is sold through Amazon and other stores .. it is also full of trash talk about the United States. The people on it who speak about You are too funny....(c; Larry -- Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium" The ultimate dirty bomb...... |
Where is Skip and the Flying Pig?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:02:02 +0000, Larry wrote:
Rhotel1 wrote in news:1190342591.053077.317800 : The above individual seems to haunt Usenet groups pushing a DVD Beyond Treason; this might even be commercial use of Usenet because the DVD is sold through Amazon and other stores .. it is also full of trash talk about the United States. The people on it who speak about You are too funny....(c; Larry The bit I liked best was "This might be a commercial use of Usenet..." straight out of the Arpa ethos of long ago - before the Internet was handed over to commercial interests,m in fact. Brian W |
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Brian Whatcott wrote in
: The bit I liked best was "This might be a commercial use of Usenet..." straight out of the Arpa ethos of long ago - before the Internet was handed over to commercial interests,m in fact. Brian W How long were you on Arpanet? Me too! Larry -- Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium" The ultimate dirty bomb...... |
Where is Skip and the Flying Pig? Or, Where, indeded??
I know it's being picky, but could someone rename this thread
something like survivalist training or other-poster bashing (yes, I realize that I can fit into that hole, too, but it's not what the title sez)? For the record, and for the title, we're in the Sassafras River just above the bascule bridge, and are heading south today after doing a very thorough scrub in fresh water and a bunch of minor maintenance. I was going to go up the mast yesterday but, wouldn't you know, up came the wind, and I'd wanted to strip the sails first. Plenty of time in the next couple of weeks.... Off to the boat show and local touring. We'd stop in Balto on the way but have had enough folks tell us that time is of the essence if we want to anchor that we will do that by land or post-show. All is well (see Lydia's log for excitements with the cat) with all aboard; Lydia's mom is spoiling us and I'm gaining back the weight I lost! I'll have a log posting soon; right now I need to get the dink up and get moving on what should be an ideal sailing day. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
Where is Skip and the Flying Pig? Or, Where, indeded??
Skip Gundlach wrote in
ups.com: Lydia's mom is spoiling us and I'm gaining back the weight I lost! Good! You were awful skinny, despite my attempts to fatten you up on buffet foods. Larry -- Skinny people **** me off.... I was trying to do situps at a health club I belonged to many years ago. AT my awful weight, at the time before I moved to Iran and lost 120 pounds, I could do about 3. Some smartassed, SKINNY kid mocked me..... "Whoa, sport. How many can you do?" He could do them for hours, of course, only lifting 40# of body and head each time. "Now, let's go over to the scale.", I offered. I lay on the floor and he weighed my trunk and head. Then I weighed his same parts, the part you had to lift to do a situp. From the scale, we went to the weight rack and picked up two 50# and one 10# weight. Back at the situp bench, I had him lay on his back to do a situp, then took a strap and tied 110# of dead weight on top of his chest, to equal what I was sitting up with. Of course, Little Skinny couldn't even lift his back off the bench it was being jammed into...turning HIM into ME. Damned Skinny smartasses.......(d^:) |
Where is Skip and the Flying Pig? Or, Where, indeded??
Skip Gundlach wrote in
ups.com: Lydia's mom is spoiling us and I'm gaining back the weight I lost! We'll hit the Chinese buffet where they now have 12 flavors of ALL-YOU-CAN- EAT ice cream when you get to Charleston. I can fix that "skinny" stuff... (c; They got more All-you-can-eat Cheesecake to go with it.... Larry -- |
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On Sep 23, 12:53 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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Skip Gundlach wrote:
Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip And they never will... |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:05:51 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote: On Sep 23, 12:53 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) Skip, I asked him the same question some time ago and he replied that HIS cruises are for him alone and not to be spread all over the Internet for the hoi polloi to read and comment on. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:05:51 -0000, Skip Gundlach wrote: On Sep 23, 12:53 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) Skip, I asked him the same question some time ago and he replied that HIS cruises are for him alone and not to be spread all over the Internet for the hoi polloi to read and comment on. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) The only "cruises" Neal Warren (aka Wilbur) engages in are to and from the bar stool. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:02:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:05:51 -0000, Skip Gundlach wrote: On Sep 23, 12:53 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) Skip, I asked him the same question some time ago and he replied that HIS cruises are for him alone and not to be spread all over the Internet for the hoi polloi to read and comment on. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) The only "cruises" Neal Warren (aka Wilbur) engages in are to and from the bar stool. Jeeze, are you sure? From reading his posts and looking at his web site I thought he and the Mouse Boat had cruised thousands of miles, he was far fitter then the rest of us, had only a bicycle to ride about on and hated women. You don't mean to tell us that Wilbur makes an occasional exaggeration do you? Blimey, fair ruin my faith in human nature, you do. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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... On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:02:42 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:05:51 -0000, Skip Gundlach wrote: On Sep 23, 12:53 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message ups.com... snipped boring content Well, what do you know, there's nothing left . . . Wilbur Hubbard Hi, Wilbur, I note that this newsgroup is called rec.boats.cruising. I also note that none of the thousands of posts you make say anything about your cruising, let alone what places you've been or what cruising attempts or work you've accomplished in, say, the last 5 years. I, on the other hand, have regularly posted the work I've done to go, and once gone, where I've gone and how I did it. Your turn... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) Skip, I asked him the same question some time ago and he replied that HIS cruises are for him alone and not to be spread all over the Internet for the hoi polloi to read and comment on. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) The only "cruises" Neal Warren (aka Wilbur) engages in are to and from the bar stool. Jeeze, are you sure? From reading his posts and looking at his web site I thought he and the Mouse Boat had cruised thousands of miles, he was far fitter then the rest of us, had only a bicycle to ride about on and hated women. You don't mean to tell us that Wilbur makes an occasional exaggeration do you? Blimey, fair ruin my faith in human nature, you do. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) I apologize. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Skip is interesting, human. Willie? Willie who? Pomposity does not
sell, unless you got summat to pomp about, like being queen. Be nice! Terry K |
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I have not followed closely the adventures of Skip and Lydia. I
admire their honesty and bravery. None of us is an expert at anything. Everybody can learn something from everybody else. Skip and Lydia are not embarrassed to admit their shortcomings. I hope to meet them this year on the water. As for their detractors, I can only say that many nay-sayers and critics have never really been there themselves. Peter s/v Now or Never! |
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"Terry K" wrote in message ups.com... Skip is interesting, human. Willie? Willie who? Pomposity does not sell, unless you got summat to pomp about, like being queen. Be nice! Terry K I generally try to be nice but I can't stand people like Skip who go around making a mockery out of sailing and then act like it's so cool to do so. Their reports are nothing but one blunder after another. Poor example after poor example. Dangerous acts after dangerous acts. Neglect after neglect. It's a wonder they managed to survive as long as they have. It just goes to show some people have a lot of luck. What I find most offensive about Skip's posts is how no mention is made by him of WHY he manages to screw up almost everything he does. He never examines his mistakes nor does he explain what he should have done to avoid them. He sounds incapable of learning. He gives the impression that it's normal to go blundering about dangerously putting his life and his crew's life in danger, not to mention any innocent boaters who happen to have the misfortune to be run over by him while he's below typing his trip reports and checking his radar screen every 20 minutes thinking he's operating safely. Give me a break. This man should be given no respect - as a matter of fact he should be laughed off the group. It's one thing to write his kind of crap as a tall tale and I don't mind that but Skip never mentions most of it's embellished or in jest because it probably isn't. A beginning boater might well think Skip is a good mentor because although he's a hazard on the water his posts are something beginners might think of as the way sailing is done these days. Heaven forbid. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Peter" wrote in message ps.com... snipped some Skip and Lydia are not embarrassed to admit their shortcomings. If they were embarrassed about their shortcomings they would have noting to write about. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:45:03 -0700, Peter wrote:
I have not followed closely the adventures of Skip and Lydia. I admire their honesty and bravery. None of us is an expert at anything. Everybody can learn something from everybody else. Skip and Lydia are not embarrassed to admit their shortcomings. I hope to meet them this year on the water. As for their detractors, I can only say that many nay-sayers and critics have never really been there themselves. Peter s/v Now or Never! Peter, I think I'd amend that statement to read, "I can only say that the nay-sayers and critics have never really been there themselves." Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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On Sep 26, 4:45 pm, Peter wrote:
I have not followed closely the adventures of Skip and Lydia. None of us is an expert at anything. Well I sugest that you go to China for your next surgery. Also, after reading this board since 2000 I disagree. There are several experts who post here. Everybody can learn something from everybody else. Yes,,,, even if it is what NOT to do! Skip and Lydia are not embarrassed to admit their shortcomings. Neither are the people on Jerry Springer, but.................. I can only say that many nay-sayers and critics have never really been there themselves. Dear Peter: I disagree completly. As one notiable social scientest said, "...Stupid is as Stupid does....." "You can lead a horse to water but ya cant make em drink." BUT, The true secrect is being able to create the thirst! Some people arent that thirsty for knowledge. As relsult they are destened to repeat their same short comming over and over and over again. So dear peter............ GFY BOb |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:45:03 -0700, Peter wrote:
I have not followed closely the adventures of Skip and Lydia. I admire their honesty and bravery. None of us is an expert at anything. Everybody can learn something from everybody else. And I do hope I have taught you something about coffee. --Vic |
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On Sep 26, 4:45 pm, Peter wrote:
None of us is an expert at anything. And that was answered by Bob thusly: Well I sugest that you go to China for your next surgery. Also, after reading this board since 2000 I disagree. There are several experts who post here. Well Bob, Have you checked out the hospitals in China? In what country do you think their doctors get their schooling? (A hint - it's real close) But the chinese have quite a different philosophy then our medical people here do - they are willing to use what works - not just what is 'approved' by the AMA and insurance companies. You think that our medical system here works well? Then how do you explain the fact we rank somewhere around 32nd in mortality in developed nations? BTW, thats almost dead last. I agree that we have one of the best *emergency care* systems in the world and bravo to them for that, but we do not have a very good "health care" system. Heck, most doctors in this country wouldn't recognize health if it slapped them in the face. As a class they are one of the most unhealthy groups in the country, and they have no excuse for that except that they believe their own hype and bull****. As for your second comment: I have known lots of "experts", and here's what I think of them - anyone who considers himself the ultimate authority on any subject is a person who has decided to stop learning. Most medical doctors think of themselves as "experts", yet they are wrong so often one has to wonder why they went to med school in the first place. When you present something to them that you know to be true, if it in any way contradicts what he/she thinks they will just give you one of 'those looks' and usher you out of their office. How many times have you heard a doctor pronounce that something or other is "incurable"? Numerous doctors pronounced that to my mother about her heart diseases and yet within 3 weeks of using high-dose nutritional therapy she had none of what they told her was "incurable". So ya know what they told her? It was a "spontaneous remission" (of something they said could not ever be cured!). Never mind the fact they told her previously that there was no possibility of a remission. They were not about to give up any of their dogma, no sir, no matter what. After all, they're the "experts". I wish I had a buck for each time a doctor wondered aloud what nutrition has to do with your health... I do however, agree with another of your comments. Any person (who isn't an expert) can learn from anyone "even if it is what NOT to do" - and that ain't a bad thing, Bob, as long as you can recognize the difference - as I suspect most here have the brains to do. And yes, I do think a number of people here posses a high degree of knowledge and intellect, but let's be careful about insulting them by calling them "experts". Red PS as far as S&L - when I'm working on boats it surprises me how many times something from one of their stories pops into my head and reminds me to check something or other out. Ever notice how many boats have mis-aligned alternator pullies, for instance? And the discussions that follow his stories are excellent learning opportunities that may not have taken place had he not written about it in the first place. |
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Red wrote in news:dUWKi.1464$hP.1284
@newsfe12.lga: Then how do you explain the fact we rank somewhere around 32nd in mortality in developed nations? BTW, thats almost dead last. More people died, today, from medical mistakes than ever died in Iraq for the whole war! Supporting documentation: http://www.cancure.org/medical_errors.htm http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/mistakes/common.htm Even the Drug Cartel's own FDA admits it: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2000/500_err.html http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php 198,000/year in 2000, 2001, 2002. Drivers and cars aren't the most dangerous products in America....DOCTORS AND NURSES ARE! And NOONE does anything about it. There's money to be made! Larry -- Avoiding medical mistakes....since 1964! No doctors, no drugs, no medical mistakes. In memory of Captain Cecil Jowers, S/V "Custom Canvas". His MUSC doctors misdiagnosed bone cancer until it killed him. He was my friend and my captain......may he rest in peace. My last visit with him, always the strongest man on the boat, I had to turn him over in his nursing home bed because he could not move on his own..... |
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On Sep 27, 7:17 pm, Red wrote:
Red PS as far as S&L - when I'm working on boats it surprises me how many times something from one of their stories pops into my head and reminds me to check something or other out. Ever notice how many boats have mis-aligned alternator pullies, for instance? And the discussions that follow his stories are excellent learning opportunities that may not have taken place had he not written about it in the first place. Hi, Red, and list, At the risk of throwing gasoline (diesel?) on the fire, thank you for that. It's exactly why I post our misadventures. As seen in prior discussions on the point, I ignore the inevitable flames from those whose **** don't stink (not just in this forum, so don't feel special), and engage those looking for additional info or our learning experiences from the adventure (as they all are, if they don't kill you). And, Wilbur, clearly you haven't been paying attention, or perhaps hadn't shown up in this persona (I don't recall) at the time of our wreck, but within a couple of days, I did, in fact post (search "I learned about sailing from that") a rather extensive examination of how we got to be in that predicament. I don't "get off" on posting ways we might have done something different, or the consequences therefrom. I get off on illustrating how (and why) things can have different outcomes than expected, and how some of what looked to be disasters were, in fact, tremendously beneficial in the end, but, mostly, as seen above, so that others can gain from our experience. I did an awful lot of that (gaining from others' experience) in the early years on this list (where were you, then?), and contribute where I feel I can make a difference. Aside from attack, what do you contribute to make a difference? As in an earlier post, it's your turn to post about your experiences. I haven't seen any since that post, now some time ago... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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On Sep 28, 11:33 am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:09:54 -0000, Skip Gundlach wrote: On Sep 27, 7:17 pm, Red wrote: Red PS as far as S&L - when I'm working on boats it surprises me how many times something from one of their stories pops into my head and reminds me to check something or other out. Ever notice how many boats have mis-aligned alternator pullies, for instance? And the discussions that follow his stories are excellent learning opportunities that may not have taken place had he not written about it in the first place. Hi, Red, and list, At the risk of throwing gasoline (diesel?) on the fire, thank you for that. It's exactly why I post our misadventures. As seen in prior discussions on the point, I ignore the inevitable flames from those whose **** don't stink (not just in this forum, so don't feel special), and engage those looking for additional info or our learning experiences from the adventure (as they all are, if they don't kill you). And, Wilbur, clearly you haven't been paying attention, or perhaps hadn't shown up in this persona (I don't recall) at the time of our wreck, but within a couple of days, I did, in fact post (search "I learned about sailing from that") a rather extensive examination of how we got to be in that predicament. I don't "get off" on posting ways we might have done something different, or the consequences therefrom. I get off on illustrating how (and why) things can have different outcomes than expected, and how some of what looked to be disasters were, in fact, tremendously beneficial in the end, but, mostly, as seen above, so that others can gain from our experience. You claim to learn from experience, yet you continue to try and have a rational conversation with Wilbur/Neal/Ellen. What's that popular quote about the root of insanity? :{)) Well said. OTOH, if it's Neal hiding under there, once in a while he'd let go of a nugget of truth. Somewhat like Jax, whose whereabouts I've been unaware for some years, as I pointed out when Neal made a reappearance a couple of years ago, and for which he thanked me, seeing my comment as a defense of his blather. FWIW, and entirely OT, Wilbur claimed to have bought Neal's boat from his estate a while back, and more recently, claimed to be in conversation with him. Either he's a medium as well as cyclist, or he forgets what he sez in which persona :{)) Either way, he's entertaining, which I understand to be why Bruce continues to engage him despite the similar lack of actual progress. I'm off to the hardware store, having managed to have lost the transom attaching hardware for my Porta-Bote, and to Fawcetts, to see if the Spinnaker halyard turning block was one of the ones my surveyor said was recalled by Shaeffer... L8R Skip |
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Skip, your welcome... and thanks.
And I'm still kicking myself for not making the time to come out and meet you while you were up north here. Red |
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On Sep 27, 4:17 pm, Red wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:45 pm, Peter wrote: None of us is an expert at anything. And that was answered by Bob thusly: Well I sugest that you go to China for your next surgery. Also, after reading this board since 2000 I disagree. There are several experts who post here. Well Bob, Have you checked out the hospitals in China? Not personally but have talked to a doc who went there on some sort disaster help thing. In what country do you think their doctors get their schooling? I dont have any numbers . Do you or are yo just blowin more stuf out ur ass? (A hint - it's real close) But the chinese have quite a different philosophy then our medical people here do - they are willing to use what works - not just what is 'approved' by the AMA and insurance companies. Youre right on that one. China has such limitted medical services people will use ANY THING ! Tell you what, since some people get cured with the placebo effect I suggest you give it a try next time you got a good case of MRSA growing in your nose and see if that goldenseal poltus adn acupuncture works. You think that our medical system here works well? Absolutly..................... for the rich. If you got good insurance I wouldnt go anywhere else. If not ur screwed Then how do you explain the fact we rank somewhere around 32nd in mortality in developed nations? BTW, thats almost dead last. Since you did not define what you mean by "mortality" I'll assume youre another republikan anti medical system cook and go with their talking point ie, if our medical system is so good why do so many people die in the US? Simple, 1) accuarate reporting 2) fat people who smoke We are dying from the good life u republicans want for everyone..... more chips and dips please. I agree that we have one of the best *emergency care* systems in the world and bravo to them for that, but we do not have a very good "health care" system. Your right, its a system run by the free market system. Little government control. So you get the insurance companines, drug makers, and hospital owners, oh, and the had workin private bussiness workers... the docs trying to controll the market and make as much money as possible. Heck, most doctors in this country wouldn't recognize health if it slapped them in the face. Tell that to the surgun in the town I live. He is also a major in the NG. He finished his 2nd tour in some forward aid station a few months ago. Your right, I can see why you think he is real jerk giving up his plush office, family, and big bucks to give those guys with their guts in the dirt a chance to live. As a class they are one of the most unhealthy groups in the country, and they have no excuse for that except that they believe their own hype and bull****. Ya kno red, I think im gona do something more important right now. First Im gona finish my beer n then take a big ****. Take your AM radio talking points somplace else. They are predictable and boaring. Ahhhhh ...........I feel a big one comming down the pike now.... gotta go bro! bob |
Renamed to nobody gives a Flying Crap where Skip is.
Ahhhhh ...........I feel a big one comming down the pike now.... gotta
go bro! bob Ya know Bob, its too bad you let yer brains go down the toilet like that - oh and I really doubt it was that big, judging by the rest of your reply. And for your information braindeadBob, I am neither a Republicant nor a Democrap. In fact I can actually think, which is why I form my own opinions instead of taking the word of religious zealots like you for things they know not of. If you had bothered to actually read my post, you would have discoverd... Nahh, you really wouldn't get it anyway, thinking isn't exactly what your strong suit. Your right, I can see why you think he is real jerk giving up his plush office, family, and big bucks to give those guys with their guts in the dirt a chance to live. And just where in the world did you get the idea that I think someone, ANYONE, in the military is a "jerk" for doing his duty? I have quite a great deal of repect for everyone in our military, having spent half my life there. Like I said, braindeadBob, you didn't understand my post. Nor, evidently, did you even bother to read the part I wrote about us having the best emergency care in the world. Now just what do you think that "surgun" you know was doing over there, huh, Mr. braindeadBob? Was he perhaps doing *emergency* care? Ya think? Get back to me after you do some research, ok? Red |
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