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Doug Dotson January 7th 04 07:47 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
I also like the Tides and Currents module of the Capn. Was invaluable
when in the ICW. The bottom graph was helpful too. Just wish that
LCD screens suitable for mounting at the helm weren;t so expensive.
We use a NAVMAN for that. They (NAVMAN) wouldn;t give me
info on the exchange format though. I sent an email, they replied
asking for clarification o what I was asking and then I never heard
from them again. Would be nice to exchange waypoints and routes
between the two units.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Thanks. That was the type of comparision I was looking for, although not
what I wanted to hear.

I believe that Nautical Technology (The Capn), Nobeltec and Maptech have

an
agenda to lock the navigator into a chart format. And of course they

control
the market on these formats.

Not only do I have about five hundred buck invested in The Capn, but I

have
nearly a thousand invested in BSB and other raster formats that run on

Capn
and Maptech software.. Now I see each company introducing their new
formats/type of digital charts.. The money is not in the navigation
software, the money is in the charts. The race among the three leaders is

to
get the navigator locked into a format before he becomes aware of the ever
increasing number of vector charts being released for free..

Although I have been locked into BSB and The Capn for about 4 years, I

have
only sailed two seasons with this software and chart format. I am content
with the choice of chart format but I have lost confidence in Nautical
Technology since there fail to provide comprehensive interface with

external
devices. (subject of previous posts here and in rec.boats.electronics)..

For my present and future navigation requirements, I don't see any need

for
SoftCharts, Vector charts or enhanced video presentations with my charts.

I
just want my laptop screen to look like the paper charts that I have

laying
on the chart table.

One of the feature of The Capn that I would miss with a Fugawi change over
would be the Tides & Currents, however, I still will have their Tides and
Currents available though the Graphic representation, I just won't be able
to display this information on the chart.

I guess I have ranted enough (for now).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Steve January 7th 04 08:35 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is it about the user interface of Capn that you don;t like? I've been
using it for years and can't think of any major complaints. Taking
existing waypoints and incorporating them into a route used to
be a problem but has been fixed in the latest release. I downloaded the
Nobeltec demo several years ago and found it to be unreliable
and quirky so I walked away from it. Same situation with Maptech.
Haven't tried FUGAWI and OZI though.


My main problem is the fact that I can't run their latest version with my
existing Laptop.. Has to be a (i think) P3 or higher and 500 mhz.. Or
something like that.. I checked with them when I got the first notice for
upgrade..

Shortly there after I realized that if my GPS module was on the USB, I would
be screwed for Autopilot control from the computer.

Then I gave up on the GPS module and went to a Furuno GP32 which I could
operate on the serial port, however The Capn won't do uploads of waypoints
to the (any GPS).. The Capn just exports to a proprietory file set.

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..

Even if I purchase the latest upgrade offer, I can't use it and I doubt I
will be able to get any tech support, since I'm still using 6.1

I have already orderd Figawi 3.x.x

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve January 7th 04 08:35 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is it about the user interface of Capn that you don;t like? I've been
using it for years and can't think of any major complaints. Taking
existing waypoints and incorporating them into a route used to
be a problem but has been fixed in the latest release. I downloaded the
Nobeltec demo several years ago and found it to be unreliable
and quirky so I walked away from it. Same situation with Maptech.
Haven't tried FUGAWI and OZI though.


My main problem is the fact that I can't run their latest version with my
existing Laptop.. Has to be a (i think) P3 or higher and 500 mhz.. Or
something like that.. I checked with them when I got the first notice for
upgrade..

Shortly there after I realized that if my GPS module was on the USB, I would
be screwed for Autopilot control from the computer.

Then I gave up on the GPS module and went to a Furuno GP32 which I could
operate on the serial port, however The Capn won't do uploads of waypoints
to the (any GPS).. The Capn just exports to a proprietory file set.

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..

Even if I purchase the latest upgrade offer, I can't use it and I doubt I
will be able to get any tech support, since I'm still using 6.1

I have already orderd Figawi 3.x.x

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Doug Dotson January 7th 04 10:13 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is it about the user interface of Capn that you don;t like? I've

been
using it for years and can't think of any major complaints. Taking
existing waypoints and incorporating them into a route used to
be a problem but has been fixed in the latest release. I downloaded the
Nobeltec demo several years ago and found it to be unreliable
and quirky so I walked away from it. Same situation with Maptech.
Haven't tried FUGAWI and OZI though.


My main problem is the fact that I can't run their latest version with my
existing Laptop.. Has to be a (i think) P3 or higher and 500 mhz.. Or
something like that.. I checked with them when I got the first notice for
upgrade..


The price of progress :) Not the fault of The Capn.

Shortly there after I realized that if my GPS module was on the USB, I

would
be screwed for Autopilot control from the computer.


Yes, that is a problem. I have that problem too.

Then I gave up on the GPS module and went to a Furuno GP32 which I could
operate on the serial port, however The Capn won't do uploads of waypoints
to the (any GPS).. The Capn just exports to a proprietory file set.


My solution also. I use the NAVMAN 5500 to drive the autopilot
directly. I have no problem with the format of Capn export files, but
the NAVMAN folks won't divulge their import format.

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact

them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I

get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Haven't had that problem, I got the card, ordered the upgrade and installed
it.
One intetresting thing that did happen is that it never asked for the key.
No
problem contacted them via email.

Even if I purchase the latest upgrade offer, I can't use it and I doubt I
will be able to get any tech support, since I'm still using 6.1


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.

I have already orderd Figawi 3.x.x


Let me know how it works. I mat be interested in looking at it. Do they
have an eval version? Won;t be able to eval it unto the boat is back in
the water though.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Doug Dotson January 7th 04 10:13 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
What is it about the user interface of Capn that you don;t like? I've

been
using it for years and can't think of any major complaints. Taking
existing waypoints and incorporating them into a route used to
be a problem but has been fixed in the latest release. I downloaded the
Nobeltec demo several years ago and found it to be unreliable
and quirky so I walked away from it. Same situation with Maptech.
Haven't tried FUGAWI and OZI though.


My main problem is the fact that I can't run their latest version with my
existing Laptop.. Has to be a (i think) P3 or higher and 500 mhz.. Or
something like that.. I checked with them when I got the first notice for
upgrade..


The price of progress :) Not the fault of The Capn.

Shortly there after I realized that if my GPS module was on the USB, I

would
be screwed for Autopilot control from the computer.


Yes, that is a problem. I have that problem too.

Then I gave up on the GPS module and went to a Furuno GP32 which I could
operate on the serial port, however The Capn won't do uploads of waypoints
to the (any GPS).. The Capn just exports to a proprietory file set.


My solution also. I use the NAVMAN 5500 to drive the autopilot
directly. I have no problem with the format of Capn export files, but
the NAVMAN folks won't divulge their import format.

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact

them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I

get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Haven't had that problem, I got the card, ordered the upgrade and installed
it.
One intetresting thing that did happen is that it never asked for the key.
No
problem contacted them via email.

Even if I purchase the latest upgrade offer, I can't use it and I doubt I
will be able to get any tech support, since I'm still using 6.1


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.

I have already orderd Figawi 3.x.x


Let me know how it works. I mat be interested in looking at it. Do they
have an eval version? Won;t be able to eval it unto the boat is back in
the water though.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Saltair January 8th 04 01:11 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
That would be "Where the FUGAWI!" :)

yep ya gotta keep in mind that Northport systems got its start doing this
stuff for the Canadian Army :)

Saltair



Saltair January 8th 04 01:11 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
That would be "Where the FUGAWI!" :)

yep ya gotta keep in mind that Northport systems got its start doing this
stuff for the Canadian Army :)

Saltair



Steve January 8th 04 05:05 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact

them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I

get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that

old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.


The Capn Mosaic only came out in the last year and I would expect them to
continue support the last version for a reasonable period.. It's not
unreasonable for customers to expect continued support for a short
transition period..

I know their priorities are to get everyone SUCKED into the Soft Chart
scheme since they will be the only ones providing them..

You have probably already heard that Maptech is phasing out regular BSB and
replaced it with something newer that can't be run in the older software..

I'll go with Fugawi or Ozi since they seem to be more in touch with the
customer/user needs..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve January 8th 04 05:05 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to contact

them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange, I

get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that

old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.


The Capn Mosaic only came out in the last year and I would expect them to
continue support the last version for a reasonable period.. It's not
unreasonable for customers to expect continued support for a short
transition period..

I know their priorities are to get everyone SUCKED into the Soft Chart
scheme since they will be the only ones providing them..

You have probably already heard that Maptech is phasing out regular BSB and
replaced it with something newer that can't be run in the older software..

I'll go with Fugawi or Ozi since they seem to be more in touch with the
customer/user needs..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Doug Dotson January 8th 04 08:03 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
The Capn supports BSB charts as well so one isn't forced into
buying Softchart. And Softchart products are available through
many sources. So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to

contact
them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they

can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange,

I
get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that

old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.


The Capn Mosaic only came out in the last year and I would expect them to
continue support the last version for a reasonable period.. It's not
unreasonable for customers to expect continued support for a short
transition period..

I know their priorities are to get everyone SUCKED into the Soft Chart
scheme since they will be the only ones providing them..

You have probably already heard that Maptech is phasing out regular BSB

and
replaced it with something newer that can't be run in the older software..

I'll go with Fugawi or Ozi since they seem to be more in touch with the
customer/user needs..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Doug Dotson January 8th 04 08:03 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
The Capn supports BSB charts as well so one isn't forced into
buying Softchart. And Softchart products are available through
many sources. So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...

In the past year (after the latest version came out) I tried to

contact
them
by email and they wouldn't provide support because they claim they

can't
find a record of me being a register owner of their software. Strange,

I
get
an upgrade offer every 6 months..


Tech support for old version can't last forever. If your laptop is that

old,
you have lost tech support for Windows 95 and 98 as well. Microsoft
dropped support for those recently.


The Capn Mosaic only came out in the last year and I would expect them to
continue support the last version for a reasonable period.. It's not
unreasonable for customers to expect continued support for a short
transition period..

I know their priorities are to get everyone SUCKED into the Soft Chart
scheme since they will be the only ones providing them..

You have probably already heard that Maptech is phasing out regular BSB

and
replaced it with something newer that can't be run in the older software..

I'll go with Fugawi or Ozi since they seem to be more in touch with the
customer/user needs..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





[email protected] January 8th 04 08:56 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Another option will be available soon (2nd quarter of 2004)... Coastal
Explorer is a brand new program that can use Maptech and SoftChart
raster charts as well as S-57 vector charts. It is made by a new
company, Rose Point Navigation Systems, that does not make any money
selling charts, so they are not trying to lock you into their own
format.

Coastal Explorer will be officially announced at the Seattle Boat
Show, January 16-25. If you'll be at that show, stop by booth 2010 on
the upper concourse.

Check out http://rosepointnav.com/ for more information...

Brad Christian
(Yes, I work for them...)

[email protected] January 8th 04 08:56 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Another option will be available soon (2nd quarter of 2004)... Coastal
Explorer is a brand new program that can use Maptech and SoftChart
raster charts as well as S-57 vector charts. It is made by a new
company, Rose Point Navigation Systems, that does not make any money
selling charts, so they are not trying to lock you into their own
format.

Coastal Explorer will be officially announced at the Seattle Boat
Show, January 16-25. If you'll be at that show, stop by booth 2010 on
the upper concourse.

Check out http://rosepointnav.com/ for more information...

Brad Christian
(Yes, I work for them...)

Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 9th 04 03:34 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:36:38 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

The only beef I have woth Capn is that the port used for GPS in
and autopilot out must be the same. Does OZI allow different ports be
specified for in and out?


Yes, it does allow this. I haven't done much testing with the
autopilot function, though. I'd recommend giving it a good test with
the trial version before licensing.

Maptech ON is really good in the configuration department. You can
choose input port, passthru port, and autopilot port. You can
configure what autopilot sentences are generated and what talker ID
they have. Really nice. But it only supports Maptech charts. They
have a new product they're announcing soon; but I know nothing about
it as yet.

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 9th 04 03:34 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:36:38 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

The only beef I have woth Capn is that the port used for GPS in
and autopilot out must be the same. Does OZI allow different ports be
specified for in and out?


Yes, it does allow this. I haven't done much testing with the
autopilot function, though. I'd recommend giving it a good test with
the trial version before licensing.

Maptech ON is really good in the configuration department. You can
choose input port, passthru port, and autopilot port. You can
configure what autopilot sentences are generated and what talker ID
they have. Really nice. But it only supports Maptech charts. They
have a new product they're announcing soon; but I know nothing about
it as yet.

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 9th 04 04:17 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On 8 Jan 2004 12:56:10 -0800, wrote:

Another option will be available soon (2nd quarter of 2004)... Coastal
Explorer is a brand new program that can use Maptech and SoftChart
raster charts as well as S-57 vector charts.

Hubba hubba! How much?


__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at
http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 9th 04 04:17 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On 8 Jan 2004 12:56:10 -0800, wrote:

Another option will be available soon (2nd quarter of 2004)... Coastal
Explorer is a brand new program that can use Maptech and SoftChart
raster charts as well as S-57 vector charts.

Hubba hubba! How much?


__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at
http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

spdevel January 9th 04 01:25 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.


Isn't it common knowledge that the company that owns The Capn also owns
Softchart and the online retailer Captain Jacks? Ever wonder why Captain
Jacks doesn't sell Maptech charts any longer?



spdevel January 9th 04 01:25 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.


Isn't it common knowledge that the company that owns The Capn also owns
Softchart and the online retailer Captain Jacks? Ever wonder why Captain
Jacks doesn't sell Maptech charts any longer?



[email protected] January 9th 04 07:30 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/

[email protected] January 9th 04 07:30 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/

Bob January 9th 04 09:22 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
The web site states Windows XP only.
Not very nice for those of us that don't like XP.
Bob

Bob January 9th 04 09:22 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
The web site states Windows XP only.
Not very nice for those of us that don't like XP.
Bob

Doug Dotson January 9th 04 10:32 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Interesting, I didn;t know that. Sorry, I've never heard of
Captain Jacks.

DOug
s/v Callista

"spdevel" wrote in message
...
So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.


Isn't it common knowledge that the company that owns The Capn also owns
Softchart and the online retailer Captain Jacks? Ever wonder why Captain
Jacks doesn't sell Maptech charts any longer?





Doug Dotson January 9th 04 10:32 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Interesting, I didn;t know that. Sorry, I've never heard of
Captain Jacks.

DOug
s/v Callista

"spdevel" wrote in message
...
So I don't see how Capn is locking one into one
particular format that they somehow control.


Isn't it common knowledge that the company that owns The Capn also owns
Softchart and the online retailer Captain Jacks? Ever wonder why Captain
Jacks doesn't sell Maptech charts any longer?





Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 14th 04 10:05 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Brad -

A look at your website shows some interesting features. Supporting a wide
variety of charts is the way to go. I expect you'll sell more than a few
copies. For myself (I mention this not as criticism but in hopes of
getting a feature I need) I won't be buying anything in the future unless it
supports Admiralty ARC charts, as well as the ones you listed. Once you get
away from North America, they're the gold standard. IMHO.

--
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/


wrote in message
om...
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/




Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 14th 04 10:05 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Brad -

A look at your website shows some interesting features. Supporting a wide
variety of charts is the way to go. I expect you'll sell more than a few
copies. For myself (I mention this not as criticism but in hopes of
getting a feature I need) I won't be buying anything in the future unless it
supports Admiralty ARC charts, as well as the ones you listed. Once you get
away from North America, they're the gold standard. IMHO.

--
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/


wrote in message
om...
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/




John January 23rd 04 09:29 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
FUGAWI Marine ENC supports the S-57 charts, has 10 years of
development behind it and also supports Palm (including Garmin iQue)
and Pocket PC. A terrific deal as it also supports BSB, ECW, and DRG
chart formats and the user can also scan a paper chart!
see www.fugawi.com


"Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson" wrote in message ink.net...
Brad -

A look at your website shows some interesting features. Supporting a wide
variety of charts is the way to go. I expect you'll sell more than a few
copies. For myself (I mention this not as criticism but in hopes of
getting a feature I need) I won't be buying anything in the future unless it
supports Admiralty ARC charts, as well as the ones you listed. Once you get
away from North America, they're the gold standard. IMHO.

--
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/


wrote in message
om...
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/


John January 23rd 04 09:29 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
FUGAWI Marine ENC supports the S-57 charts, has 10 years of
development behind it and also supports Palm (including Garmin iQue)
and Pocket PC. A terrific deal as it also supports BSB, ECW, and DRG
chart formats and the user can also scan a paper chart!
see www.fugawi.com


"Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson" wrote in message ink.net...
Brad -

A look at your website shows some interesting features. Supporting a wide
variety of charts is the way to go. I expect you'll sell more than a few
copies. For myself (I mention this not as criticism but in hopes of
getting a feature I need) I won't be buying anything in the future unless it
supports Admiralty ARC charts, as well as the ones you listed. Once you get
away from North America, they're the gold standard. IMHO.

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__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/


wrote in message
om...
Pricing for Coastal Explorer is not yet set in stone, but I expect it
to be about $300. While this is more expensive than Fugawi's products
and The Capn First Mate, it is significantly less expensive than The
Capn Voyager, Nobeltec VNS, and RayTech Navigator. Yet Coastal
Explorer includes most of the useful features found in the more
expensive programs, and even a few that they don't. We feel that
Coastal Explorer has the best feature set and the most reasonable
price of any navigation software available, especially when you
consider that most of your charts will be free in the US!

Brad Christian
Rose Point Navigation Systems, LLC
http://rosepointnav.com/


Howard January 26th 04 04:38 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
"Steve" wrote in message ...
I've been a contented user of The Capn since ver. 4.3 up to 6.1 (upgrading
each time the card comes).

However, the latest upgrade would require that I move to a more power full
laptop computer (I suspect, because of the Mosaic crap and SoftCharts). Now
I'm finding it difficult to get product support for Capn Voyager.

Rather than spend the $49 for an upgrade that I can't use (recent marked dwn
special), I'm considering crossing over to Fugawi 3 for $99.

I looked over the Demo and read about all the features and conclude that
although it isn't as 'slick' as The Capn, it is more flexible (in chart
formats), more capable and user friendly.. It also can be used with the
street/highway (land based) map data bases. Allows you to scan and register
your own charts. The list goes on, while the basic navigation program seems
simple and user friendly..

With an upgrade, I could also be using the ENC vector charts.

So, Why am I here?? I would like the hear from others who might have been
exposed to either Fugawi and/or The Capn.

Thanks for any comments on actual usage.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


Greetings all,

I am an agent for Fugawi (and Cdn and US electronic charts). In
addition to selling the product, I will provide an on line, no cost
demo of the products and fee based training (on line or live) on the
use of the products, and naivigation.

Hope to hear from any of you.

Howard Rosenthal

416.617.9966

Howard January 26th 04 04:38 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
"Steve" wrote in message ...
I've been a contented user of The Capn since ver. 4.3 up to 6.1 (upgrading
each time the card comes).

However, the latest upgrade would require that I move to a more power full
laptop computer (I suspect, because of the Mosaic crap and SoftCharts). Now
I'm finding it difficult to get product support for Capn Voyager.

Rather than spend the $49 for an upgrade that I can't use (recent marked dwn
special), I'm considering crossing over to Fugawi 3 for $99.

I looked over the Demo and read about all the features and conclude that
although it isn't as 'slick' as The Capn, it is more flexible (in chart
formats), more capable and user friendly.. It also can be used with the
street/highway (land based) map data bases. Allows you to scan and register
your own charts. The list goes on, while the basic navigation program seems
simple and user friendly..

With an upgrade, I could also be using the ENC vector charts.

So, Why am I here?? I would like the hear from others who might have been
exposed to either Fugawi and/or The Capn.

Thanks for any comments on actual usage.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


Greetings all,

I am an agent for Fugawi (and Cdn and US electronic charts). In
addition to selling the product, I will provide an on line, no cost
demo of the products and fee based training (on line or live) on the
use of the products, and naivigation.

Hope to hear from any of you.

Howard Rosenthal

416.617.9966


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