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Steve January 1st 04 03:00 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Thanks. That was the type of comparision I was looking for, although not
what I wanted to hear.

I believe that Nautical Technology (The Capn), Nobeltec and Maptech have an
agenda to lock the navigator into a chart format. And of course they control
the market on these formats.

Not only do I have about five hundred buck invested in The Capn, but I have
nearly a thousand invested in BSB and other raster formats that run on Capn
and Maptech software.. Now I see each company introducing their new
formats/type of digital charts.. The money is not in the navigation
software, the money is in the charts. The race among the three leaders is to
get the navigator locked into a format before he becomes aware of the ever
increasing number of vector charts being released for free..

Although I have been locked into BSB and The Capn for about 4 years, I have
only sailed two seasons with this software and chart format. I am content
with the choice of chart format but I have lost confidence in Nautical
Technology since there fail to provide comprehensive interface with external
devices. (subject of previous posts here and in rec.boats.electronics)..

For my present and future navigation requirements, I don't see any need for
SoftCharts, Vector charts or enhanced video presentations with my charts. I
just want my laptop screen to look like the paper charts that I have laying
on the chart table.

One of the feature of The Capn that I would miss with a Fugawi change over
would be the Tides & Currents, however, I still will have their Tides and
Currents available though the Graphic representation, I just won't be able
to display this information on the chart.

I guess I have ranted enough (for now).

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Henry January 1st 04 04:13 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
I have been using Fugawi for six years and have v. 2.something-or-other.

I find it to be an excellent program. The laptop interfaces very nicely with
my Garmin 120XL to give a large screen chartplotter.

A bonus is that Fugawi can now be used with a Palm or HP handheld along with
a miniature dedicated GPS unit.

Henry.



Henry January 1st 04 04:13 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
I have been using Fugawi for six years and have v. 2.something-or-other.

I find it to be an excellent program. The laptop interfaces very nicely with
my Garmin 120XL to give a large screen chartplotter.

A bonus is that Fugawi can now be used with a Palm or HP handheld along with
a miniature dedicated GPS unit.

Henry.



Steve January 1st 04 04:19 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Henry" wrote in message
news:X7NIb.896040$9l5.623894@pd7tw2no...

A bonus is that Fugawi can now be used with a Palm or HP handheld along

with
a miniature dedicated GPS unit.


Yes, that is a feature that i have been reading about on their web site.
Supposedly you can also upload chart section from your laptop to the some of
the more sophisticated palm or pocket pc. I hadn't considered this before
but it does sound interesting now as the price are dropping on the
handhelds. Would be nice to do this and take the handheld up to the helm.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve January 1st 04 04:19 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 

"Henry" wrote in message
news:X7NIb.896040$9l5.623894@pd7tw2no...

A bonus is that Fugawi can now be used with a Palm or HP handheld along

with
a miniature dedicated GPS unit.


Yes, that is a feature that i have been reading about on their web site.
Supposedly you can also upload chart section from your laptop to the some of
the more sophisticated palm or pocket pc. I hadn't considered this before
but it does sound interesting now as the price are dropping on the
handhelds. Would be nice to do this and take the handheld up to the helm.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 1st 04 05:54 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:48:18 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

FUGAWI, but you have to respect people who name their product after a
bad joke.



I appreciate all of your comments Wiley, but please expand on the above
'snipe'..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve -

I see you already have the answer. I didn't mean that as a snipe; I
truly like the attitude it shows. A slightly different version of the
joke refers to the Fukarya tribe. :)

Another poster recommended Maptech. I like it, but I doubt that
anyone who has a beef with the resource requirements of CAPN will like
Maptech much better. I was never satisfied with it till I upgraded to
an 850 mhz cpu with 256MB. The official recommendation of "Pentium
class cpu and 64MB" is absurd. Nice functionality though. It's what
I run when I want to use the photos and topo maps from their
chartkits. The configurability of Offshore Navigator is superb. The
current version seems reliable enough, though I had a lot of trouble
with older versions. You can use any charts you like, as long as
MapTech made them.

As for OziExplorer support, I doubt that you could find many people to
complain about it. The author has an excellent record of fixing user
problems and adding requested features. Also, there is an excellent
Ozi mailist on Yahoo that generally turns around answers to questions
in a few hours. I licensed the program in 1998 and I really haven't
had any reliability problems since that first year. Also, even with
all the new features that have been added, there has never been an
upgrade fee. Which is not to say the program is perfect. The real
problem with Ozi from my point of view is that it was originally built
for hikers and off-roaders and has grown more by accretion than by
design. The feature set and interface are not ideal from our point of
view.

Given the option, I'd try hard to wait and see how ENC support shakes
out before choosing. I have the feeling that most of the vendors are
trying to figure out how to make those free charts more expensive than
the ones we have now.

If I planned on going places where BSB chart coverage is spotty or
insanely expensive (and I do), Ozi or Fugawi would be aboard
regardless of what else I was using.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Glen \Wiley\ Wilson January 1st 04 05:54 AM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:48:18 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

FUGAWI, but you have to respect people who name their product after a
bad joke.



I appreciate all of your comments Wiley, but please expand on the above
'snipe'..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve -

I see you already have the answer. I didn't mean that as a snipe; I
truly like the attitude it shows. A slightly different version of the
joke refers to the Fukarya tribe. :)

Another poster recommended Maptech. I like it, but I doubt that
anyone who has a beef with the resource requirements of CAPN will like
Maptech much better. I was never satisfied with it till I upgraded to
an 850 mhz cpu with 256MB. The official recommendation of "Pentium
class cpu and 64MB" is absurd. Nice functionality though. It's what
I run when I want to use the photos and topo maps from their
chartkits. The configurability of Offshore Navigator is superb. The
current version seems reliable enough, though I had a lot of trouble
with older versions. You can use any charts you like, as long as
MapTech made them.

As for OziExplorer support, I doubt that you could find many people to
complain about it. The author has an excellent record of fixing user
problems and adding requested features. Also, there is an excellent
Ozi mailist on Yahoo that generally turns around answers to questions
in a few hours. I licensed the program in 1998 and I really haven't
had any reliability problems since that first year. Also, even with
all the new features that have been added, there has never been an
upgrade fee. Which is not to say the program is perfect. The real
problem with Ozi from my point of view is that it was originally built
for hikers and off-roaders and has grown more by accretion than by
design. The feature set and interface are not ideal from our point of
view.

Given the option, I'd try hard to wait and see how ENC support shakes
out before choosing. I have the feeling that most of the vendors are
trying to figure out how to make those free charts more expensive than
the ones we have now.

If I planned on going places where BSB chart coverage is spotty or
insanely expensive (and I do), Ozi or Fugawi would be aboard
regardless of what else I was using.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

RKnorr January 1st 04 01:50 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
I have been using Fugawi for six years.I boat in the Hudson River,Lake
Ontario and Rhode Island sound.I use the program with my laptop and about a
year ago started using a Pocket Pc .The pocket Pc is the way to go for
me.Color,nice brightness,compact and can be loaded with BSB charts in all
their glory.I have also downloaded the new free ENC charts for all my
boating areas and they work fine on the IPAQ 3650 Pocket Pc.
Regards Russ
"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been a contented user of The Capn since ver. 4.3 up to 6.1 (upgrading
each time the card comes).

However, the latest upgrade would require that I move to a more power full
laptop computer (I suspect, because of the Mosaic crap and SoftCharts).

Now
I'm finding it difficult to get product support for Capn Voyager.

Rather than spend the $49 for an upgrade that I can't use (recent marked

dwn
special), I'm considering crossing over to Fugawi 3 for $99.

I looked over the Demo and read about all the features and conclude that
although it isn't as 'slick' as The Capn, it is more flexible (in chart
formats), more capable and user friendly.. It also can be used with the
street/highway (land based) map data bases. Allows you to scan and

register
your own charts. The list goes on, while the basic navigation program

seems
simple and user friendly..

With an upgrade, I could also be using the ENC vector charts.

So, Why am I here?? I would like the hear from others who might have been
exposed to either Fugawi and/or The Capn.

Thanks for any comments on actual usage.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





RKnorr January 1st 04 01:50 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
I have been using Fugawi for six years.I boat in the Hudson River,Lake
Ontario and Rhode Island sound.I use the program with my laptop and about a
year ago started using a Pocket Pc .The pocket Pc is the way to go for
me.Color,nice brightness,compact and can be loaded with BSB charts in all
their glory.I have also downloaded the new free ENC charts for all my
boating areas and they work fine on the IPAQ 3650 Pocket Pc.
Regards Russ
"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been a contented user of The Capn since ver. 4.3 up to 6.1 (upgrading
each time the card comes).

However, the latest upgrade would require that I move to a more power full
laptop computer (I suspect, because of the Mosaic crap and SoftCharts).

Now
I'm finding it difficult to get product support for Capn Voyager.

Rather than spend the $49 for an upgrade that I can't use (recent marked

dwn
special), I'm considering crossing over to Fugawi 3 for $99.

I looked over the Demo and read about all the features and conclude that
although it isn't as 'slick' as The Capn, it is more flexible (in chart
formats), more capable and user friendly.. It also can be used with the
street/highway (land based) map data bases. Allows you to scan and

register
your own charts. The list goes on, while the basic navigation program

seems
simple and user friendly..

With an upgrade, I could also be using the ENC vector charts.

So, Why am I here?? I would like the hear from others who might have been
exposed to either Fugawi and/or The Capn.

Thanks for any comments on actual usage.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Larry W4CSC January 1st 04 03:32 PM

Fugawi 3.x.x V. The Crapn
 
Are they related to the Furuno tribe?....(c;

Mgazi Mfuming

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:36:17 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote:

I may be misunderstanding you Steve but if you are asking what the joke is
it goes something like this:

Have you heard about the Fugawi tribe recently discovered by anthropologists
in Africa?
Apparently they are a tribe of Pigmies that live in the grasslands of the
central plains. They are on average about 4' tall and live in a region
where the grass grows about 6' tall.
We call them the Fugawi because they are always going around saying, (wait
for it) "We're the Fugawi, we're the Fugawi." ;-)

Happy New Year!
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

"Steve" wrote in message
...
FUGAWI, but you have to respect people who name their product after a
bad joke.



I appreciate all of your comments Wiley, but please expand on the above
'snipe'..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions







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