Flag etiquette
 

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Thanks.

George C.

p.s. I hope no one gets upset by my considering entering the Bahamas.

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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

Flag etiquette
 

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

I was assuming (we know about that right) that he had a power boat.
Where does a power boat put the Q flag and the courtesy flag?

The American (or country of origin) flag does stay on the stern unless
you are flying it from the backstay though.

From: http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

The flag at the stern of your boat-...-should be one inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The hoist will normally be two-thirds of the fly..

Other flags such as club burgees, officer flags, and private signals for use on sailboats should be approximately 1/2 inch on the fly for each foot of the highest mast above the water. For flying on powerboats, these flags should be roughly 5/8 inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The shape and proportions of pennants and burgees will be prescribed by the organization to which they relate
.....
As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at the starboard spreader.
On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally flown at the forward starboard spreader.
On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the starboard spreader of the forward mast



grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html

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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

I was assuming (we know about that right) that he had a power boat.
Where does a power boat put the Q flag and the courtesy flag?

The American (or country of origin) flag does stay on the stern unless
you are flying it from the backstay though.

From: http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

The flag at the stern of your boat-...-should be one inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The hoist will normally be two-thirds of the fly..

Other flags such as club burgees, officer flags, and private signals for use on sailboats should be approximately 1/2 inch on the fly for each foot of the highest mast above the water. For flying on powerboats, these flags should be roughly 5/8 inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The shape and proportions of pennants and burgees will be prescribed by the organization to which they relate
.....
As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at the starboard spreader.
On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally flown at the forward starboard spreader.
On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the starboard spreader of the forward mast



grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html

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Sorry, I was not specific enough. I have a trawler and fly flags from stern
and bow. Reading the excerpt that you included, I think that the quarantine
flag goes on the bow, to be replaced by the courtesy flag after clearance,
and the American flag remains on the stern staff. Thanks.

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Sorry, I was not specific enough. I have a trawler and fly flags from stern
and bow. Reading the excerpt that you included, I think that the quarantine
flag goes on the bow, to be replaced by the courtesy flag after clearance,
and the American flag remains on the stern staff. Thanks.

Flag etiquette
 

Cheshire wrote:
Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on
your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited
number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a
flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags
commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been
completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been
granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

* On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any
flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
* When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at
the starboard spreader.
* On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally
flown at the forward starboard spreader.
* On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard
spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from
the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the
starboard spreader of the forward mast.

Although these points serve as protocol in most waters, keep in mind that
customs observed in various foreign waters differ from one another; in case of
doubt, inquire locally or observe other craft from your country.

As noted previously, U.S. vessels while in international or foreign waters must
fly the U.S. ensign (50-star flag) at the stern or gaff or leech, rather than
the USPS ensign or the yacht ensign. When the starboard spreader is used for the
"courtesy ensign" of the foreign country, the USPS ensign or similar flag may be
flown from the port spreader; if the vessel has multiple flag halyards on the
starboard spreader, the USPS ensign is flown there, inboard from the courtesy
ensign.

The U.S. ensign, club burgee, officer flag, and private signal are flown as in
home waters.

Don't fly a foreign courtesy ensign after you have returned to U.S. waters.
Although this may show that you've "been there," it is not proper flag etiquette.

----------

Chuck Bollinger
Seattle Sail and Power Squadron

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Cheshire wrote:
Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on
your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited
number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a
flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags
commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been
completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been
granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

* On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any
flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
* When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at
the starboard spreader.
* On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally
flown at the forward starboard spreader.
* On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard
spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from
the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the
starboard spreader of the forward mast.

Although these points serve as protocol in most waters, keep in mind that
customs observed in various foreign waters differ from one another; in case of
doubt, inquire locally or observe other craft from your country.

As noted previously, U.S. vessels while in international or foreign waters must
fly the U.S. ensign (50-star flag) at the stern or gaff or leech, rather than
the USPS ensign or the yacht ensign. When the starboard spreader is used for the
"courtesy ensign" of the foreign country, the USPS ensign or similar flag may be
flown from the port spreader; if the vessel has multiple flag halyards on the
starboard spreader, the USPS ensign is flown there, inboard from the courtesy
ensign.

The U.S. ensign, club burgee, officer flag, and private signal are flown as in
home waters.

Don't fly a foreign courtesy ensign after you have returned to U.S. waters.
Although this may show that you've "been there," it is not proper flag etiquette.

----------

Chuck Bollinger
Seattle Sail and Power Squadron

Flag etiquette
 

Chuck Bollinger wrote:
Cheshire wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag?
On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy
flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign
nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are
only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed,
and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must
displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not
hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has
been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the
appropriate authorities.

Interesting. We have always flown the flag of the "host" nation
(courtesy flag) upon near approach to the port of entry and prior to
picking up a pilot.
In some cases, the local authorities were slightly upset when this was
not done, but this may have more to do with the normal plethora of
halyards available on most ships, as compared to many yachts.

otn

Flag etiquette
 

Chuck Bollinger wrote:
Cheshire wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag?
On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy
flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign
nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are
only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed,
and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must
displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not
hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has
been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the
appropriate authorities.

Interesting. We have always flown the flag of the "host" nation
(courtesy flag) upon near approach to the port of entry and prior to
picking up a pilot.
In some cases, the local authorities were slightly upset when this was
not done, but this may have more to do with the normal plethora of
halyards available on most ships, as compared to many yachts.

otn

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otnmbrd wrote:


Interesting. We have always flown the flag of the "host" nation
(courtesy flag) upon near approach to the port of entry and prior to
picking up a pilot.
In some cases, the local authorities were slightly upset when this was
not done, but this may have more to do with the normal plethora of
halyards available on most ships, as compared to many yachts.

Yeah. I get uncomfortable too, so revert to "Plan B" which is to fly the "Q"
flag under the courtesy flag (never above, of course), and when cleared just
remove it.

It may not be absolutely official, but often one must give in to others' ignorance.

BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

So, officially, if one flies a courtesy flag from the bow the only place for the
National Ensign is a gaff. That makes the even more prevalent use of that pole
for a club burgee even wronger.

Flag etiquette
 

otnmbrd wrote:


Interesting. We have always flown the flag of the "host" nation
(courtesy flag) upon near approach to the port of entry and prior to
picking up a pilot.
In some cases, the local authorities were slightly upset when this was
not done, but this may have more to do with the normal plethora of
halyards available on most ships, as compared to many yachts.

Yeah. I get uncomfortable too, so revert to "Plan B" which is to fly the "Q"
flag under the courtesy flag (never above, of course), and when cleared just
remove it.

It may not be absolutely official, but often one must give in to others' ignorance.

BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

So, officially, if one flies a courtesy flag from the bow the only place for the
National Ensign is a gaff. That makes the even more prevalent use of that pole
for a club burgee even wronger.

Flag etiquette
 

BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow. On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

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Flag etiquette
 

BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow. On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

---
Remove x's to send.

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In article ,
says...


BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence
for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow. On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead on a pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard spreader. If you are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank flag. If you have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

Flag etiquette
 

In article ,
says...


BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of rank/precedence
for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow. On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead on a pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard spreader. If you are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank flag. If you have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

Flag etiquette
 

Gogarty wrote:

Might be room for some sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

snerk - Mind you don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef your burgees!

Flag etiquette
 

Gogarty wrote:

Might be room for some sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

snerk - Mind you don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef your burgees!

Flag etiquette
 

Chuck Bollinger wrote:

... don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef
your burgees!

I think you've addressed something relevant here, or nearly so. I just
about always take off burgees, ensigns, etc., when offshore. Who needs the
wear and tear with today's prices? Frankly it is a rare occurrence these
days when one needs to show colors, although it _does_ happen.

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of handing the
club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking or bending at least
_something_ up there. I have replaced a number of Windex parts and tricolor
lights over the years due to this (dagblasted) maneuver.

People familiar with Queen Hooper's book on yachting etiquette might
remember her description of hoisting the burgee on the J-boat "Shamrock"
each morning at 0800. The pigstick on "Shamrock" was originally a Sunfish
mast.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

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Chuck Bollinger wrote:

... don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef
your burgees!

I think you've addressed something relevant here, or nearly so. I just
about always take off burgees, ensigns, etc., when offshore. Who needs the
wear and tear with today's prices? Frankly it is a rare occurrence these
days when one needs to show colors, although it _does_ happen.

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of handing the
club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking or bending at least
_something_ up there. I have replaced a number of Windex parts and tricolor
lights over the years due to this (dagblasted) maneuver.

People familiar with Queen Hooper's book on yachting etiquette might
remember her description of hoisting the burgee on the J-boat "Shamrock"
each morning at 0800. The pigstick on "Shamrock" was originally a Sunfish
mast.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

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"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead
on a pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard
spreader. If you are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank
flag. If you have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen
masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to
mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some
sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

Did you forget about the "Cat on Board" flag?

Leanne

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"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead
on a pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard
spreader. If you are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank
flag. If you have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen
masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to
mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some
sails, too, when
you have all your flags flying.

Did you forget about the "Cat on Board" flag?

Leanne

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How about the "Righteous Weed" flag?

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...


BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of
rank/precedence
for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country
Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow.
On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead on a
pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard spreader. If you
are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank flag. If you
have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some sails, too,
when
you have all your flags flying.

Flag etiquette
 

How about the "Righteous Weed" flag?

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...


BTW, along those lines, does everyone know that the order of
rank/precedence
for
flying flags is: 1)Gaff of mainmast, 2) BOW post, 3) Stern pole.

diffrent flags fly from different points. club burgee, Q flag, Country
Flag,
Curtesy flag, etc.

eg: on a sailboat; your burgee is flown fro the spreader, NOT the bow.
On a
powerboat it's flown from the staff (if you have one) or from the bow.

at least, that's how I understand it...

On a sailboat, the club burgee should be flown at the masthead on a
pigstick,
all other flags except national ensign from the starboard spreader. If you
are
flying the club burghee you should also fly your club rank flag. If you
have
two masts, you can fly the private signal from the mizzen masthead. Don't
forget your "Owner absent" and "Guest in charge" flags, not to mention
"Dinner," "Cocktail," and "Church." Might be room for some sails, too,
when
you have all your flags flying.

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I always thought the Battle Ax flag was the most 'all telling' but then I
never was allowed to have one (while I was married) and don't need one now..
;o))

Steve
s/v Good Intentions (looking for a "Single Handed" flag)

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I always thought the Battle Ax flag was the most 'all telling' but then I
never was allowed to have one (while I was married) and don't need one now..
;o))

Steve
s/v Good Intentions (looking for a "Single Handed" flag)

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Church is real too, a lovely long pennant first flown by the British Navy
(and Dutch too) during some war or the other. By common agreement they
wouldn't attack each other while the Church pennant was flying. Or so I
understand... We've got one somewhere (about 12' long) but only use it when
dressing up for a sail past.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


How about the "Righteous Weed" flag?

Well, we all know the cat, dog, fish, cocktail, etc., flags are just fun
flags. But what the hell, it's all for fun anyway. But the dinner flag is
real.

Flag etiquette
 

Church is real too, a lovely long pennant first flown by the British Navy
(and Dutch too) during some war or the other. By common agreement they
wouldn't attack each other while the Church pennant was flying. Or so I
understand... We've got one somewhere (about 12' long) but only use it when
dressing up for a sail past.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


How about the "Righteous Weed" flag?

Well, we all know the cat, dog, fish, cocktail, etc., flags are just fun
flags. But what the hell, it's all for fun anyway. But the dinner flag is
real.

Flag etiquette
 

The US Navy uses the church pennant and while it is flown there are no
anouncements or bells sounded over the 1MC general annoucing system..
"Silence about the Decks"

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Flag etiquette
 

The US Navy uses the church pennant and while it is flown there are no
anouncements or bells sounded over the 1MC general annoucing system..
"Silence about the Decks"

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Flag etiquette
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:28:05 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

Chuck Bollinger wrote:

... don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef
your burgees!

I think you've addressed something relevant here, or nearly so. I just
about always take off burgees, ensigns, etc., when offshore. Who needs the
wear and tear with today's prices? Frankly it is a rare occurrence these
days when one needs to show colors, although it _does_ happen.

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of handing the
club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking or bending at least
_something_ up there. I have replaced a number of Windex parts and tricolor
lights over the years due to this (dagblasted) maneuver.

People familiar with Queen Hooper's book on yachting etiquette might
remember her description of hoisting the burgee on the J-boat "Shamrock"
each morning at 0800. The pigstick on "Shamrock" was originally a Sunfish
mast.

I will never use a pigstick, although I know it is traditional. 99% of
the time the signal halyard is free to carry burgees. When the 'Q' or
a courtesy flag is needed, the burgee can wait.





Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT

Most experts voice cautious optimism

Flag etiquette
 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:28:05 -0500, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

Chuck Bollinger wrote:

... don't get into heavy weather and fail to reef
your burgees!

I think you've addressed something relevant here, or nearly so. I just
about always take off burgees, ensigns, etc., when offshore. Who needs the
wear and tear with today's prices? Frankly it is a rare occurrence these
days when one needs to show colors, although it _does_ happen.

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of handing the
club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking or bending at least
_something_ up there. I have replaced a number of Windex parts and tricolor
lights over the years due to this (dagblasted) maneuver.

People familiar with Queen Hooper's book on yachting etiquette might
remember her description of hoisting the burgee on the J-boat "Shamrock"
each morning at 0800. The pigstick on "Shamrock" was originally a Sunfish
mast.

I will never use a pigstick, although I know it is traditional. 99% of
the time the signal halyard is free to carry burgees. When the 'Q' or
a courtesy flag is needed, the burgee can wait.





Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT

Most experts voice cautious optimism

Flag etiquette
 

Isn't that the white one that normally means "bait available?" ;-)

"Leanne" wrote in message
...

..
Did you forget about the "Cat on Board" flag?

Leanne

Flag etiquette
 

Isn't that the white one that normally means "bait available?" ;-)

"Leanne" wrote in message
...

..
Did you forget about the "Cat on Board" flag?

Leanne

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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote:

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of
handing the club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking
or bending at least _something_ up there ...

I will never use a pigstick, although I know it is traditional. 99%
of the time the signal halyard is free to carry burgees. When the
'Q' or a courtesy flag is needed, the burgee can wait.

I suspect that even traditionalists have come to terms with burgees on the
starboard signal halyard. It makes good economic sense in any case. What
they probably do not like, however, is showing more than one flag on a
single hoist. This at times seems to result in flag chaos, but I suppose if
that's the least of our worries we're doing reasonably well.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

Flag etiquette
 

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote:

One problem I've run into over the years is the complexity of
handing the club burgee and the masthead pigstick without breaking
or bending at least _something_ up there ...

I will never use a pigstick, although I know it is traditional. 99%
of the time the signal halyard is free to carry burgees. When the
'Q' or a courtesy flag is needed, the burgee can wait.

I suspect that even traditionalists have come to terms with burgees on the
starboard signal halyard. It makes good economic sense in any case. What
they probably do not like, however, is showing more than one flag on a
single hoist. This at times seems to result in flag chaos, but I suppose if
that's the least of our worries we're doing reasonably well.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

Flag etiquette
 

The burgee is a club flag and the rules of etiquette have evolved over the
year in and between yacht club. Most other flag etiquette is more of an
international understanding..

A burgee on a pigstick evolved back in the days of gaff rigs when there were
seldom spreaders. By having the burgee flown from the pig stick, at the
'truck' (mast head), the race officials, spectators and other skippers could
see the burgee at all times.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Flag etiquette
 

The burgee is a club flag and the rules of etiquette have evolved over the
year in and between yacht club. Most other flag etiquette is more of an
international understanding..

A burgee on a pigstick evolved back in the days of gaff rigs when there were
seldom spreaders. By having the burgee flown from the pig stick, at the
'truck' (mast head), the race officials, spectators and other skippers could
see the burgee at all times.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Flag etiquette
 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 09:19:28 -0800, in message

"Steve" wrote:

A burgee on a pigstick evolved back in the days of gaff rigs when there were
seldom spreaders. By having the burgee flown from the pig stick, at the
'truck' (mast head), the race officials, spectators and other skippers could
see the burgee at all times.

It also served as a wind indicator in the undisturbed air at the
masthead in the days before the windex, let alone electronic wind
instruments. Nowadays having both up there at the same time would be a
little redundant ;-)

Ryk