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Cheshire December 30th 03 03:54 AM

Flag etiquette
 
Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Thanks.

George C.

p.s. I hope no one gets upset by my considering entering the Bahamas.



Rodney Myrvaagnes December 30th 03 05:38 AM

Flag etiquette
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

Rodney Myrvaagnes December 30th 03 05:38 AM

Flag etiquette
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon

Rosalie B. December 30th 03 03:13 PM

Flag etiquette
 
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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon


I was assuming (we know about that right) that he had a power boat.
Where does a power boat put the Q flag and the courtesy flag?

The American (or country of origin) flag does stay on the stern unless
you are flying it from the backstay though.

From: http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

The flag at the stern of your boat-...-should be one inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The hoist will normally be two-thirds of the fly..

Other flags such as club burgees, officer flags, and private signals for use on sailboats should be approximately 1/2 inch on the fly for each foot of the highest mast above the water. For flying on powerboats, these flags should be roughly 5/8 inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The shape and proportions of pennants and burgees will be prescribed by the organization to which they relate

.....
As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at the starboard spreader.
On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally flown at the forward starboard spreader.
On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the starboard spreader of the forward mast



grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html

Rosalie B. December 30th 03 03:13 PM

Flag etiquette
 
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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:54:10 -0500, "Cheshire"
wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

You put the Q flag under the starboard spreader. When you have
cleared, you remove the Q and replace it with the courtesy flag.


"Biologists think they are chemists, chemists think they are phycisists,
physicists think they are gods, and God thinks He is a mathematician." Anon


I was assuming (we know about that right) that he had a power boat.
Where does a power boat put the Q flag and the courtesy flag?

The American (or country of origin) flag does stay on the stern unless
you are flying it from the backstay though.

From: http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

The flag at the stern of your boat-...-should be one inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The hoist will normally be two-thirds of the fly..

Other flags such as club burgees, officer flags, and private signals for use on sailboats should be approximately 1/2 inch on the fly for each foot of the highest mast above the water. For flying on powerboats, these flags should be roughly 5/8 inch on the fly for each foot of overall length. The shape and proportions of pennants and burgees will be prescribed by the organization to which they relate

.....
As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at the starboard spreader.
On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally flown at the forward starboard spreader.
On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the starboard spreader of the forward mast



grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html

George C. December 30th 03 03:43 PM

Flag etiquette
 
Sorry, I was not specific enough. I have a trawler and fly flags from stern
and bow. Reading the excerpt that you included, I think that the quarantine
flag goes on the bow, to be replaced by the courtesy flag after clearance,
and the American flag remains on the stern staff. Thanks.



George C. December 30th 03 03:43 PM

Flag etiquette
 
Sorry, I was not specific enough. I have a trawler and fly flags from stern
and bow. Reading the excerpt that you included, I think that the quarantine
flag goes on the bow, to be replaced by the courtesy flag after clearance,
and the American flag remains on the stern staff. Thanks.



Chuck Bollinger December 30th 03 06:19 PM

Flag etiquette
 
Cheshire wrote:
Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on
your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited
number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a
flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags
commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been
completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been
granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

* On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any
flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
* When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at
the starboard spreader.
* On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally
flown at the forward starboard spreader.
* On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard
spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from
the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the
starboard spreader of the forward mast.

Although these points serve as protocol in most waters, keep in mind that
customs observed in various foreign waters differ from one another; in case of
doubt, inquire locally or observe other craft from your country.

As noted previously, U.S. vessels while in international or foreign waters must
fly the U.S. ensign (50-star flag) at the stern or gaff or leech, rather than
the USPS ensign or the yacht ensign. When the starboard spreader is used for the
"courtesy ensign" of the foreign country, the USPS ensign or similar flag may be
flown from the port spreader; if the vessel has multiple flag halyards on the
starboard spreader, the USPS ensign is flown there, inboard from the courtesy
ensign.

The U.S. ensign, club burgee, officer flag, and private signal are flown as in
home waters.

Don't fly a foreign courtesy ensign after you have returned to U.S. waters.
Although this may show that you've "been there," it is not proper flag etiquette.

----------

Chuck Bollinger
Seattle Sail and Power Squadron


Chuck Bollinger December 30th 03 06:19 PM

Flag etiquette
 
Cheshire wrote:
Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag? On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign nation on
your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are only a limited
number of positions from which flags may be displayed, and consequently when a
flag of another nation is flown, it usually must displace one of the flags
commonly displayed in home waters. It is not hoisted until clearance has been
completed and the yellow "Q" flag has been removed, and the vessel has been
granted pratique by the appropriate authorities.

The following are general guidelines to follow reguarding courtesy flags:

* On a mastless powerboat, the courtesy flag of another nation replaces any
flag that is normally flown at the bow of the boat.
* When a motorboat has a mast with spreaders, the courtesy flag is flown at
the starboard spreader.
* On a two-masted motorboat, the courtesy flag displaces any flag normally
flown at the forward starboard spreader.
* On a sailboat, the courtesy flag is flown at the boat's starboard
spreader, whether the United States ensign is at the stern staff, or flown from
the leech. If there is more than one mast, the courtesy flag is flown from the
starboard spreader of the forward mast.

Although these points serve as protocol in most waters, keep in mind that
customs observed in various foreign waters differ from one another; in case of
doubt, inquire locally or observe other craft from your country.

As noted previously, U.S. vessels while in international or foreign waters must
fly the U.S. ensign (50-star flag) at the stern or gaff or leech, rather than
the USPS ensign or the yacht ensign. When the starboard spreader is used for the
"courtesy ensign" of the foreign country, the USPS ensign or similar flag may be
flown from the port spreader; if the vessel has multiple flag halyards on the
starboard spreader, the USPS ensign is flown there, inboard from the courtesy
ensign.

The U.S. ensign, club burgee, officer flag, and private signal are flown as in
home waters.

Don't fly a foreign courtesy ensign after you have returned to U.S. waters.
Although this may show that you've "been there," it is not proper flag etiquette.

----------

Chuck Bollinger
Seattle Sail and Power Squadron


otnmbrd December 30th 03 11:48 PM

Flag etiquette
 


Chuck Bollinger wrote:
Cheshire wrote:

Hopefully, this will fall in the "there's no such thing as a stupid
question" category.

When you arrive in the Bahamas, where do you put the quarantine flag?
On the
bow, leaving the American flag on the stern?

When you clear customs and immigration, where do you fly the courtesy
flag?
Do you fly both it and the American flag?

Here's help from US Power Squadrons. The site is:
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html

Honoring Other National Flags

As a matter of courtesy, it is proper to fly the flag of a foreign
nation on your boat when you enter and operate on its waters. There are
only a limited number of positions from which flags may be displayed,
and consequently when a flag of another nation is flown, it usually must
displace one of the flags commonly displayed in home waters. It is not
hoisted until clearance has been completed and the yellow "Q" flag has
been removed, and the vessel has been granted pratique by the
appropriate authorities.


Interesting. We have always flown the flag of the "host" nation
(courtesy flag) upon near approach to the port of entry and prior to
picking up a pilot.
In some cases, the local authorities were slightly upset when this was
not done, but this may have more to do with the normal plethora of
halyards available on most ships, as compared to many yachts.

otn



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