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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:47:35 -0700, RW Salnick
wrote: Take a look at the Crower 6-cycle engine - Although I didn't look closely, it almost reminds me of a variation of "water injectors." A non-closed steam circuit doesn't make sense to me, and once the steam circuit is closed, we're back to the latter Stanley Steamers, although they could be much improved with turbines. Anyway, the IC and steam don't seem to mix become of the volume steam requires. Since you kept me interested, I found "bmw steam assist" which is more along the lines I was thinking in recovering waste heat. The trick is designing a practical heat recovery device that is adequately efficient in heat transfer, energy conversion, and power train while still being small in size. And the cost, of course. I don't think it would actually use water, but something more exotic. Again I didn't read deeply, but they seem on the right track. Except - to get the most out this I think it needs to be hybridized to the extent that when excess heat isn't being used to apply motive power, that energy should be shunted to a battery for storage. So it would be a step beyond current gas/battery hybrids, but still need that honking battery. Another alternative way of storing energy I recall reading about is the massive flywheel - I think vacuum sealed - which stores braking energy and feed it back when needed. Sounded nice until you think of the weight and vacuum required, or the high-speed flywheel shattering and spraying shrapnel. Another thought is that the great increase in IC fuel efficiency has been achieved mostly by better burning of fuel with injectors, electronic ignition, etc. There might be more bounty in squeezing the most out of the fuel and working on getting the explosion itself to transfer more of its direct energy into work. Though it's heat transfer instead of work, modern home NG furnaces are up to about 90% efficiency and use PVC exhaust vents. Wankel was the last radical IC redesign I'm aware of, but there may be a genius out there that comes up with another that completely changes our thinking about this. It won't be me - writing this has wrung me out. --Vic |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:18:33 +0000, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:8fqpc31amu1btj9jpfltdtuoo244e4b94h@ 4ax.com: We simply followed the schedule for back flushing and cleaning the membranes and they produced drinkable water for the entire period we used them. We know that as we took weekly samples from the tanks and had them laboratory tested as part of our contractual obligations with the client. Wouldn't it be fun to try to look at the lab reports on RO water from a cruise ship that's in port just long enough to pickup supplies and the next load of suckers for the craps tables. Larry Yes, it might well be enlightening. We did the lab testing because we had to do it and report the results to ARCO on a weekly basis. One assumes that they had some water problems in the past. Another point was they we were 50 - 60 miles off shore and took our water from roughly the depth of the barge. i.e., the intakes were in the bottom of the one of the tanks so were feeding the thing with the cleanest water available to us. Interestingly the only major problem we had with the units, other then sucking up a load of oily water before we moved the intakes, were the seals in the high pressure pumps which were made in England. But as we had a coupl;e of guys who crew changed to the U.K. we just had them hand carry a bunch of seals back every time they returned from break. By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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wrote in news:133qc3hf5f01d6al3o2io0j2ubvt81lu36@
4ax.com: By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idproduct=24 a gift from a friend who bought a bigger one: http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idcategory=3 &idproduct=23 I was using a ceramic pot distiller someone had turned into a thrift shop I'd bought for $5 because noone knew what it was for. I still have it but it isn't near as efficient as this Waterwise countertop unit. The lab one will distill continuously as it hooks to the sink faucet with a special aeriator that has a fitting on it to seal the hose to and makes about 12 gallons a day, if you need that much. It distills directly into my 6" carbon column setting on top of a 5 gallon water jug for unattended operation. But, it loses so much heat from its ceramic pot and I gave up trying to insulate it for more efficiency after my friend gave me this countertop unit which, other than the condenser fan outlet, hardly loses any heat at all. My friend got the biggest one, which runs itself in his garage, all plumbed in to keep its exhaust heat out of his house in HOT South Carolina. I makes water until its full, then shuts down until you use it nearly up, with automatic feed like my lab unit has. It also runs on 220VAC with lots more power. Larry -- |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:49:58 +0000, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:133qc3hf5f01d6al3o2io0j2ubvt81lu36@ 4ax.com: By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idproduct=24 a gift from a friend who bought a bigger one: http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idcategory=3 &idproduct=23 I was using a ceramic pot distiller someone had turned into a thrift shop I'd bought for $5 because noone knew what it was for. I still have it but it isn't near as efficient as this Waterwise countertop unit. The lab one will distill continuously as it hooks to the sink faucet with a special aeriator that has a fitting on it to seal the hose to and makes about 12 gallons a day, if you need that much. It distills directly into my 6" carbon column setting on top of a 5 gallon water jug for unattended operation. But, it loses so much heat from its ceramic pot and I gave up trying to insulate it for more efficiency after my friend gave me this countertop unit which, other than the condenser fan outlet, hardly loses any heat at all. My friend got the biggest one, which runs itself in his garage, all plumbed in to keep its exhaust heat out of his house in HOT South Carolina. I makes water until its full, then shuts down until you use it nearly up, with automatic feed like my lab unit has. It also runs on 220VAC with lots more power. Larry Just out of curiosity, how is the steam condensed? I watched the animated show and that subject didn;t seem to be mentioned. My mate uses a 3 inch stainless reflux still but he is running twenty gallon batches. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:33:25 +0000, Larry wrote:
It's quite simple, actually. On a boat system, I'd look for a pipe-in-a- pipe condensor of stainless, not copper You are aware that the relative thermal conductivity of copper is 225. Silver is 250. Stainless is 6 to 8, and aluminum is 175. You can use stainless. Lots and lots of it. Casady |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:33:25 +0000, Larry wrote:
It's quite simple, actually. On a boat system, I'd look for a pipe-in-a- pipe condensor of stainless, not copper You are aware that the relative thermal conductivity of copper is 225. Silver is 250. Stainless is 6 to 8, and aluminum is 175. You can use stainless. Lots and lots of it. Casady |
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