Cruising Bahamas
 

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"Doug Dotson" wrote:

Rosalie,

Why are you depriving yourself of one of the finer points
of life just for a few extra dollars and a few extra procedures
to comply with? Your protest affects no one but yourself.
Life is too short.


BOb doesn't want to go. Therefore, I'm not going.

There's a lot of hassle to going to the Bahamas (I mean finding a
weather window etc.), and I just don't like the Bahamas THAT much that
I'm willing to put up with the extra fee, and the extra hassle on
coming back.

Some folks kind of look down on us because we don't anchor out every
night but spend money on marinas. And here you are telling me it's
just a few extra dollars. As I said - we could probably afford the
fee if that was all it was.


"Jerry" wrote:

Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.


"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...

We plan to go around the 10th of January

I am sorry to see anyone going to the Bahamas as long as they have that
ridicules $300 entry free in place. It will be corrected only when
enough
people stay away.


grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Cruising Bahamas
 

Why didin't you say so. If Bob doesn't want to go
then that's it. WX windows are just a fact of life, we
had to wait 6 weeks last year. But six weeks anchored
in Lake Worth beats anything up here in Maryland.
I can agree that the Bahamas aren't that great. But
again aren't that bad. You made it sound like
the fee and reentry changes are the reasons you chose
not to go this year. Just those items are an unfortunate
fact of life and a minor inconvenience. We anchor out most
of the time and rarely stay at marinas as well. Nobody
ever made fun of us for it. Just the opposite actually.
They wish they had the skill and confidence to do it and
save all the money we did.

Doug
s/v Callista


We anchor out pretty much all the time so marina costs
are not much concern.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
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"Doug Dotson" wrote:

Rosalie,

Why are you depriving yourself of one of the finer points
of life just for a few extra dollars and a few extra procedures
to comply with? Your protest affects no one but yourself.
Life is too short.


BOb doesn't want to go. Therefore, I'm not going.

There's a lot of hassle to going to the Bahamas (I mean finding a
weather window etc.), and I just don't like the Bahamas THAT much that
I'm willing to put up with the extra fee, and the extra hassle on
coming back.

Some folks kind of look down on us because we don't anchor out every
night but spend money on marinas. And here you are telling me it's
just a few extra dollars. As I said - we could probably afford the
fee if that was all it was.


"Jerry" wrote:

Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.


"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...

We plan to go around the 10th of January

I am sorry to see anyone going to the Bahamas as long as they have
that
ridicules $300 entry free in place. It will be corrected only when
enough
people stay away.


grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Cruising Bahamas
 

Why didin't you say so. If Bob doesn't want to go
then that's it. WX windows are just a fact of life, we
had to wait 6 weeks last year. But six weeks anchored
in Lake Worth beats anything up here in Maryland.
I can agree that the Bahamas aren't that great. But
again aren't that bad. You made it sound like
the fee and reentry changes are the reasons you chose
not to go this year. Just those items are an unfortunate
fact of life and a minor inconvenience. We anchor out most
of the time and rarely stay at marinas as well. Nobody
ever made fun of us for it. Just the opposite actually.
They wish they had the skill and confidence to do it and
save all the money we did.

Doug
s/v Callista


We anchor out pretty much all the time so marina costs
are not much concern.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
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"Doug Dotson" wrote:

Rosalie,

Why are you depriving yourself of one of the finer points
of life just for a few extra dollars and a few extra procedures
to comply with? Your protest affects no one but yourself.
Life is too short.


BOb doesn't want to go. Therefore, I'm not going.

There's a lot of hassle to going to the Bahamas (I mean finding a
weather window etc.), and I just don't like the Bahamas THAT much that
I'm willing to put up with the extra fee, and the extra hassle on
coming back.

Some folks kind of look down on us because we don't anchor out every
night but spend money on marinas. And here you are telling me it's
just a few extra dollars. As I said - we could probably afford the
fee if that was all it was.


"Jerry" wrote:

Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.


"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...

We plan to go around the 10th of January

I am sorry to see anyone going to the Bahamas as long as they have
that
ridicules $300 entry free in place. It will be corrected only when
enough
people stay away.


grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Cruising Bahamas
 

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
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"Jerry" wrote:

Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.




What exactly have our leaders changed regarding homeland security going
offshore and back? Given the dog and pony show they are selling in the name
of our safety, I can only imagine the lunacy that they have implemented
against law abiding U. S. citizens that are boaters. As an airline pilot and
avid aviator, I get to witness the idiocy you mention first hand! TSA is
nothing more than smoke and mirrors for the duped public who falsely believe
otherwise.

s

Cruising Bahamas
 

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
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"Jerry" wrote:

Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.




What exactly have our leaders changed regarding homeland security going
offshore and back? Given the dog and pony show they are selling in the name
of our safety, I can only imagine the lunacy that they have implemented
against law abiding U. S. citizens that are boaters. As an airline pilot and
avid aviator, I get to witness the idiocy you mention first hand! TSA is
nothing more than smoke and mirrors for the duped public who falsely believe
otherwise.

s

Cruising Bahamas
 

stealth wrote:


What exactly have our leaders changed regarding homeland security going
offshore and back? Given the dog and pony show they are selling in the name
of our safety, I can only imagine the lunacy that they have implemented
against law abiding U. S. citizens that are boaters. As an airline pilot and
avid aviator, I get to witness the idiocy you mention first hand! TSA is
nothing more than smoke and mirrors for the duped public who falsely believe
otherwise.

Here is the latest word on Bahamas/South Florida clearing. First the
bahamian Government has softened a little. You can now exit and return
once in the first 90 days of the year long cruising permit. They have
also made it clearer that you are not to be charged overtime fees or for
the dinghy either on deck or towed.

On the US side, you can still clear customs by phone if you have a
sticker but Immigration wants in person check in. Once you have tied up
you have to take a $40 taxi ride to the airport or to Dodge Island.
While the crew is spending the day checking into the US, Osama can
unload the neuclear device and check into the Holliday Inn.


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Cruising Bahamas
 

stealth wrote:


What exactly have our leaders changed regarding homeland security going
offshore and back? Given the dog and pony show they are selling in the name
of our safety, I can only imagine the lunacy that they have implemented
against law abiding U. S. citizens that are boaters. As an airline pilot and
avid aviator, I get to witness the idiocy you mention first hand! TSA is
nothing more than smoke and mirrors for the duped public who falsely believe
otherwise.

Here is the latest word on Bahamas/South Florida clearing. First the
bahamian Government has softened a little. You can now exit and return
once in the first 90 days of the year long cruising permit. They have
also made it clearer that you are not to be charged overtime fees or for
the dinghy either on deck or towed.

On the US side, you can still clear customs by phone if you have a
sticker but Immigration wants in person check in. Once you have tied up
you have to take a $40 taxi ride to the airport or to Dodge Island.
While the crew is spending the day checking into the US, Osama can
unload the neuclear device and check into the Holliday Inn.


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Cruising Bahamas
 

It seems that the people not going to the Bahamas has had an impact on
the economy. The recently announced that the permit is now good for
muntiple entries. Two within 90 days. Now that probably doesn,t help
people who come down from the north for a couple weeks-months, it does
help those of us who like to jump over to Bimini for a weekend every few
weekends.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Doug Dotson wrote:
Why didin't you say so. If Bob doesn't want to go
then that's it. WX windows are just a fact of life, we
had to wait 6 weeks last year. But six weeks anchored
in Lake Worth beats anything up here in Maryland.
I can agree that the Bahamas aren't that great. But
again aren't that bad. You made it sound like
the fee and reentry changes are the reasons you chose
not to go this year. Just those items are an unfortunate
fact of life and a minor inconvenience. We anchor out most
of the time and rarely stay at marinas as well. Nobody
ever made fun of us for it. Just the opposite actually.
They wish they had the skill and confidence to do it and
save all the money we did.

Doug
s/v Callista


We anchor out pretty much all the time so marina costs
are not much concern.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...

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"Doug Dotson" wrote:


Rosalie,

Why are you depriving yourself of one of the finer points
of life just for a few extra dollars and a few extra procedures
to comply with? Your protest affects no one but yourself.
Life is too short.


BOb doesn't want to go. Therefore, I'm not going.

There's a lot of hassle to going to the Bahamas (I mean finding a
weather window etc.), and I just don't like the Bahamas THAT much that
I'm willing to put up with the extra fee, and the extra hassle on
coming back.

Some folks kind of look down on us because we don't anchor out every
night but spend money on marinas. And here you are telling me it's
just a few extra dollars. As I said - we could probably afford the
fee if that was all it was.


"Jerry" wrote:


Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.


"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...

We plan to go around the 10th of January

I am sorry to see anyone going to the Bahamas as long as they have

that

ridicules $300 entry free in place. It will be corrected only when

enough

people stay away.

grandma Rosalie

grandma Rosalie

Cruising Bahamas
 

It seems that the people not going to the Bahamas has had an impact on
the economy. The recently announced that the permit is now good for
muntiple entries. Two within 90 days. Now that probably doesn,t help
people who come down from the north for a couple weeks-months, it does
help those of us who like to jump over to Bimini for a weekend every few
weekends.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Doug Dotson wrote:
Why didin't you say so. If Bob doesn't want to go
then that's it. WX windows are just a fact of life, we
had to wait 6 weeks last year. But six weeks anchored
in Lake Worth beats anything up here in Maryland.
I can agree that the Bahamas aren't that great. But
again aren't that bad. You made it sound like
the fee and reentry changes are the reasons you chose
not to go this year. Just those items are an unfortunate
fact of life and a minor inconvenience. We anchor out most
of the time and rarely stay at marinas as well. Nobody
ever made fun of us for it. Just the opposite actually.
They wish they had the skill and confidence to do it and
save all the money we did.

Doug
s/v Callista


We anchor out pretty much all the time so marina costs
are not much concern.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...

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"Doug Dotson" wrote:


Rosalie,

Why are you depriving yourself of one of the finer points
of life just for a few extra dollars and a few extra procedures
to comply with? Your protest affects no one but yourself.
Life is too short.


BOb doesn't want to go. Therefore, I'm not going.

There's a lot of hassle to going to the Bahamas (I mean finding a
weather window etc.), and I just don't like the Bahamas THAT much that
I'm willing to put up with the extra fee, and the extra hassle on
coming back.

Some folks kind of look down on us because we don't anchor out every
night but spend money on marinas. And here you are telling me it's
just a few extra dollars. As I said - we could probably afford the
fee if that was all it was.


"Jerry" wrote:


Hopefully it will keep some of the rift-raft out.

I'm sorry you feel that way about us. We aren't going this year --

but in our case it's more because of the new 'homeland security'
regulations in regard to immigration than to the Bahamas entry fees
although that is a part of it too. I think the new regulations are
stupid and because they do not increase security at all but just
penalize the honest people I'm not willing to go to jail or be fined
to demonstrate that it IS stupid. I just don't know how to get
through the institutionalized stupidity.


"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...

We plan to go around the 10th of January

I am sorry to see anyone going to the Bahamas as long as they have

that

ridicules $300 entry free in place. It will be corrected only when

enough

people stay away.

grandma Rosalie

grandma Rosalie

Cruising Bahamas
 

Kelton Joyner wrote:

It seems that the people not going to the Bahamas has had an impact on
the economy. The recently announced that the permit is now good for
muntiple entries. Two within 90 days. Now that probably doesn,t help
people who come down from the north for a couple weeks-months, it does
help those of us who like to jump over to Bimini for a weekend every few
weekends.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

What has me bugged is that it does not matter if you are "cruising" or
not. You have to pay just to transit Bahamian waters. I am working a
return delivery, Tortola/Ft. Lauderdale in January. Our three man crew
usually works on a set fee pluss airfare and gets to keep anything over
expenses. Because time is money we normally only stop at Puerto Plata
and Georgetown but $300 is a bit much to pay for one evening on dry
ground. Looks like we will have to make the run up the Old Bahama
Channel and hope we don't meet any Cuban gunboats.

It is going to be a long slog.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com