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On Aug 16, 7:00 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
....
OK, let's get this right. Red over red is NUC. That means Not Under
Command. It also has nothing to do with no lookout or no captain. Not
under command has everything to do with an exceptional circumstance
whereby a vessel is unable to maneuver according to the rules.
Exceptional circumstance is usually meant as a mechanical or operational
breakdown or defect that renders a vessel unable to comply.
....
Wilbur Hubbard

That's perfectly correct. And I meant to type red over red but my
dyslexia is showing again.

-- Tom.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote in message
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Come on. Somebody here has to know what to do when your making way
and
dont have a lookout. The answer is listed in the ColRegs. SInce there
are so many experts here I though it would be a slam dunk.

making way + no lookout = "a vessel _____ ______ __________."

Bob



It would be red over red (day, two balls in a vertical position), and
you would see red on green on the port and starboard and a white
stern.


As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights" and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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....
That sounds more like red/green color blindness than it does dyslexia.

Don't know about that, but oddly enough I passed both the color test
and the rules test when I took my license and I even think I know the
ditty... Somewhere between my brain and my fingers something horrible
happened. I don't understand it, but I do apologize for it.

-- Tom.

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy



I don't need to read it. I have eidetic memory. You may have read what I
wrote wrong.

From memory, this is what the the rules in question say:

Rule 21 - (in part) An all around light covers 360 degrees.

Rule 27 - A vessel Not Under Command shall display:
(a) two all around round red lights in a vertical line where they can
best be seen,
(b) two black balls or similar shapes in a vertical line where they can
best be seen and (c) when making way through the water, in addition to
the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

Don't even try to challenge me on my Rules verbiage know-how. You can't
win.

Wilbur Hubbard





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on
the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard





I should have written red on the port *and* green on the starboard, etc.,
when underway. But, any idiot (with the exception of Neal, apparently) knows
that those are the lights you would see if a vessel is underway (red and
green - port and starboard). Red over Red is NUC, which are also displayed.
Never said anything about all around lights, but that was a given.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on
the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle
a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard





I should have written red on the port *and* green on the starboard,
etc., when underway. But, any idiot (with the exception of Neal,
apparently) knows that those are the lights you would see if a vessel
is underway (red and green - port and starboard). Red over Red is NUC,
which are also displayed. Never said anything about all around lights,
but that was a given.

Good wiggle, but that just ain't gonna get it. You need a refresher
course already it seems.

You said, "you would see red on green on the port and starboard and a
white stern."
I'll accept your admission of fault with respect to red on red on the
port and red on green on the starboard but even with that admission of
fault you are still wrong.

You should have said, "from some angles of view one would see from the
starboard side red over red over green and on the port side red over red
over red when the vessel was underway. But you didn't, so you were
wrong. Why don't you admit it like a man. Oh, that's so naive of me.
You're anything but a man.

(Oh, and from the stern, you should see red over red over white.
Remember, the red over red NUC lights are specified as all around lights
displayed where they can best be seen. If they cannot be seen from the
stern then they are not being displayed where they can best be seen. An
all around light needs to be able to be seen through 360 degrees or
what's the use of it being called an all around light?)

Wilbur Hubbard

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You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no matter
making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.




"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:46c49421
:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy



I don't need to read it. I have eidetic memory. You may have read what
I
wrote wrong.

From memory, this is what the the rules in question say:

Rule 21 - (in part) An all around light covers 360 degrees.

Rule 27 - A vessel Not Under Command shall display:
(a) two all around round red lights in a vertical line where they can
best be seen,
(b) two black balls or similar shapes in a vertical line where they can
best be seen and (c) when making way through the water, in addition to
the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

Don't even try to challenge me on my Rules verbiage know-how. You can't
win.

Wilbur Hubbard





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on
the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no matter
making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.



Maybe Neal was confused because he was watching a Three Stooges movie while
typing.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no
matter making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.



Maybe Neal was confused because he was watching a Three Stooges movie
while typing.


Neal say he can quote "chapter and Verse" of the Rules...... will have to
take his word for that, but there's a big difference between quoting and
knowing what it means/ interpreting..... and here he constantly falls
short.

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no
matter
making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.

OK, I agree, I was wrong. I was talking about the bow and stern lights
but I should've included the range and masthead lights. Good point. I
bow to your superior practical knowledge and attention to detail.

Wilbur Hubbard







"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:46c49421
:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy



I don't need to read it. I have eidetic memory. You may have read
what
I
wrote wrong.

From memory, this is what the the rules in question say:

Rule 21 - (in part) An all around light covers 360 degrees.

Rule 27 - A vessel Not Under Command shall display:
(a) two all around round red lights in a vertical line where they can
best be seen,
(b) two black balls or similar shapes in a vertical line where they
can
best be seen and (c) when making way through the water, in addition
to
the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

Don't even try to challenge me on my Rules verbiage know-how. You
can't
win.

Wilbur Hubbard





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:46c4897c
:



As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of
his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on
the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around
lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle
a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also
include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no
matter making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.



Maybe Neal was confused because he was watching a Three Stooges movie
while typing.


Neal say he can quote "chapter and Verse" of the Rules...... will have
to
take his word for that, but there's a big difference between quoting
and
knowing what it means/ interpreting..... and here he constantly falls
short.

You're right, but what's Neal have to do with me, Wilbur? I, Wilbur
Hubbard, will have to work on the experience factor. Knowing the Rules
letter for letter and applying them to all the various different
circumstances are two different things.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

How many more years and how many thousand miles do you figure it will
take
you to figure out those lights?

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Wilbur Hubbard

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Sorry Willy, but if you put a time table to knowing all the possibilities
within the Rules, you'll continue to get caught making errors.
I've got a lot more years than you'll ever have and I'm still learning
and finding a need to review/rethink the wording and possible
circumstances involved.




"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:46c4f613
:


"Dave" wrote in message
...

How many more years and how many thousand miles do you figure it will
take
you to figure out those lights?

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:13:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Ah. So the answer is never. (I didn't have to take the bar exam.)

Then you must have lied about being a lawyer.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

Sorry Willy, but if you put a time table to knowing all the
possibilities
within the Rules, you'll continue to get caught making errors.
I've got a lot more years than you'll ever have and I'm still learning
and finding a need to review/rethink the wording and possible
circumstances involved.


It depends of one's perspective. I think it's much easier for a
sailboater to learn the rules as they apply to him than a powerboater to
learn the rules as they apply to him.

The powerboat, being the give-way boat in most situations between the
two, must have a better working knowledge of all the ways he can screw
up while the sailboater, in most cases, just needs to stand-on until it
becomes obvious the power boater isn't doing what he's supposed to be
doing.

In other words, you as a power boater have more to learn; more
situations where you can be at fault so you'd best be aware of every
contingency. Your being more burdened puts more burden of knowing the
rules in every detail on you. Agree?

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:08:53 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Ah. So the answer is never. (I didn't have to take the bar exam.)

Then you must have lied about being a lawyer.

How little you know.

I know you can't be a lawyer with passing the bar exam. Unless you're
one of those bogus slip-and-fall lawyers, that is.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:51:59 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I know you can't be a lawyer with passing the bar exam. Unless you're
one of those bogus slip-and-fall lawyers, that is.

As usual, you're wrong.

I Googled it to be sure and it said one must pass the bar to get a law
license. (i.e. be a lawyer).

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

Better Google a bit more, then.

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos053.htm

"Law school graduates receive the degree of juris doctor (J.D.) as the
first professional degree. Advanced law degrees may be desirable for
those planning to specialize, research, or teach. Some law students
pursue joint degree programs, which usually require an additional
semester or year of study. Joint degree programs are offered in a number
of areas, including law and business administration or public
administration."

You're a J.D. Technically a doctor of law and not a lawyer. The
definition of a lawyer is this:

law•yer \"lÕ-y€r\ n : one who conducts lawsuits for clients or advises
as to legal rights and obligations in other matters — law•yer•ly adj

"To practice law in the courts of any State or other jurisdiction, a
person must be licensed, or admitted to its bar, under rules established
by the jurisdiction’s highest court." -- from the same link above.

So, by definition, unless you have passed a bar exam you are NOT a
lawyer. Try to find a flaw in my logic. I bet you are unable to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:51:23 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

So, by definition, unless you have passed a bar exam you are NOT a
lawyer. Try to find a flaw in my logic. I bet you are unable to do so.

"The life of the law is not logic. It is experience."

Holmes, Oliver, The Common Law

Simple. I have a certificate from the Appellate Division saying I'm
admitted
to practice law. I have been admitted to the practice of law. I did
not have
to take a bar exam in any state to get that certificate or to be
admitted to
practice.

Apparently your Googling was not sufficiently thorough.

I never thought to Google "good old boys network." Doesn't it make you
feel inadequate knowing you had to get special discompensation? Do real
lawyers respect you?

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:51:23 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

"Law school graduates receive the degree of juris doctor (J.D.) as the
first professional degree. Advanced law degrees may be desirable for
those planning to specialize, research, or teach. Some law students
pursue joint degree programs, which usually require an additional
semester or year of study. Joint degree programs are offered in a
number
of areas, including law and business administration or public
administration."

You're a J.D. Technically a doctor of law and not a lawyer. The
definition of a lawyer is this:

law.yer \"lÕ-y?r\ n : one who conducts lawsuits for clients or advises
as to legal rights and obligations in other matters - law.yer.ly adj

"To practice law in the courts of any State or other jurisdiction, a
person must be licensed, or admitted to its bar, under rules
established
by the jurisdiction's highest court." -- from the same link above.

So, by definition, unless you have passed a bar exam you are NOT a
lawyer. Try to find a flaw in my logic. I bet you are unable to do so.

Where do you see the words "bar examination" in your little Googled
quote?
You seem to have made an unwarranted assumption. Now what could that
assumption be? Can ya figure it out?

It says it right up there in the quote "To practice law in the courts of
any State or other jurisdiction, a person must be licensed (you have
one, your J.D), or admitted to it's bar (you can't be admitted to it's
bar without passing the bar)"

I guess it's that little word "or"??

Hey I have a legal question you might know. If a lawyer gets tried and
convicted for conspiracy, bribery and witness tampering and gets
probation and a fine and community service and the community service is
as a legal consultant, is that legal if his license to practice law in
the state has also been suspended?

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:28:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

You seem to have made an unwarranted assumption. Now what could that
assumption be? Can ya figure it out?

It says it right up there in the quote "To practice law in the courts
of
any State or other jurisdiction, a person must be licensed (you have
one, your J.D), or admitted to it's bar (you can't be admitted to it's
bar without passing the bar)"

I guess it's that little word "or"??

No, Wilbur. A J.D. isn't a license to do anything.

But you've made the same assumption again.

Another hint: ever hear the term "begging the question?"

Class....?


Are you trying to say you're exempt because you don't practice law in
the courts? What are you going to do if you make a mistake and somebody
hauls you into court? Hire a lawyer?

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It has always intrigued me that officially if must be a hardcopy and a PDF
on several hard-drives isn't adequate. Anybody have any justified opinions
on this?

Comment: IMHO only advantage of a hard-copy is that you can perhaps peruse
it in a dinghy after primary vessel is lower than surface. This is too late
and perhaps there should be a 4-page hardcopy to cover those situation where
the worst has already occurred!

Dave


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
. ..
Bob wrote:
Hi Skip:

Since you are a vessel 12 meters (39' 3") you are required to carry a
copy of the COLREGS. Do you hvae one?

What do you figure - that Dog will strike him dead because he doesn't
have some dopey book?

If he doesn't get himself killed first it might result in a citation from
the Coast Guard should he get inspected. But, the way he carries on, it
will be just one of many.

He's got a laptop so all he needs to do is download it to his computer.

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

If they insist on a hard copy he can always print a copy.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On several occasions I've pulled out a reference to make sure I
understood a sound or light signal correctly. (More often than not
they were being used incorrectly, hence my confusion.) Other times
I've pulled out the rules immediately after an encounter to make sure
I had interpreted it properly. Would this have happened if I had to
fire up a computer?

I often spend long hours at the helm, actually on watch while we chug
along on autopilot. I try to spend the excess time reading the
ColRegs, Eldridge, guides, and sometimes even working out a running fix.


* Dave Isherwood wrote, On 8/19/2007 1:41 AM:
It has always intrigued me that officially if must be a hardcopy and a PDF
on several hard-drives isn't adequate. Anybody have any justified opinions
on this?

Comment: IMHO only advantage of a hard-copy is that you can perhaps peruse
it in a dinghy after primary vessel is lower than surface. This is too late
and perhaps there should be a 4-page hardcopy to cover those situation where
the worst has already occurred!

Dave


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
. ..
Bob wrote:
Hi Skip:

Since you are a vessel 12 meters (39' 3") you are required to carry a
copy of the COLREGS. Do you hvae one?

What do you figure - that Dog will strike him dead because he doesn't
have some dopey book?
If he doesn't get himself killed first it might result in a citation from
the Coast Guard should he get inspected. But, the way he carries on, it
will be just one of many.

He's got a laptop so all he needs to do is download it to his computer.

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

If they insist on a hard copy he can always print a copy.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Aug 19, 6:05 am, Jeff wrote:
On several occasions I've pulled out a reference to make sure I
understood a sound or light signal correctly.

I often spend long hours at the helm, actually on watch while we chug
along on autopilot. I try to spend the excess time reading the
ColRegs.....

* Dave Isherwood wrote, On 8/19/2007 1:41 AM:


Gosh Dave,

After reading Skips post I thought when underway the auto pilot and
RADAR took care of all that boaring watching stuff. I thought the
whole idea of an auto pilot was to relieve the captain for more
important things such as typing posts and enjoying the more
comfortable lounge area. Who wants to sit in a boaring cockpit looking
at nothing. I mean like as if, fur sure, not.

I read several months ago Lydia relied on the auto pilot when uderway
to take a nap. And then some how the boat went of course and ended on
the beach. I hope they fix that auto pilot so it doesnt do that again!

And for you, I hope you learn to relax and enjoy your dream instead of
fretting over ColRegs and such. Besides thoes rules are for ships not
sailboats like ours.....
bob

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"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 19, 6:05 am, Jeff wrote:
On several occasions I've pulled out a reference to make sure I
understood a sound or light signal correctly.

I often spend long hours at the helm, actually on watch while we chug
along on autopilot. I try to spend the excess time reading the
ColRegs.....

* Dave Isherwood wrote, On 8/19/2007 1:41 AM:


Gosh Dave,

After reading Skips post I thought when underway the auto pilot and
RADAR took care of all that boaring watching stuff. I thought the
whole idea of an auto pilot was to relieve the captain for more
important things such as typing posts and enjoying the more
comfortable lounge area. Who wants to sit in a boaring cockpit looking
at nothing. I mean like as if, fur sure, not.

I read several months ago Lydia relied on the auto pilot when uderway
to take a nap. And then some how the boat went of course and ended on
the beach. I hope they fix that auto pilot so it doesnt do that again!

And for you, I hope you learn to relax and enjoy your dream instead of
fretting over ColRegs and such. Besides thoes rules are for ships not
sailboats like ours.....
bob




Wow... news to me. The rules of the road are for everyone, sailboats and
power alike.


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Bob wrote in news:1187545391.121144.134950
@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com:


And for you, I hope you learn to relax and enjoy your dream instead of
fretting over ColRegs and such. Besides thoes rules are for ships not
sailboats like ours.....
bob




Problem is...... lotsa sailboaters believe that

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"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...

And for you, I hope you learn to relax and enjoy your dream instead of
fretting over ColRegs and such. Besides thoes rules are for ships not
sailboats like ours.....

Now, that's among the more uninformed statements posted here on this
group this year and that's saying something! I'm very familiar with the
COLREGS and I never saw the rule that states "these rules are for ships
and not sailboats like ours." I suppose I could have missed it. Perhaps
you could point it out to me?

It's shockingly disgraceful how many slackers are out on the water
without the smallest iota of a clue.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:42:53 -0400, wrote:

On 18 Aug 2007 10:22:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:56:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Are you trying to say you're exempt because you don't practice law in
the courts? What are you going to do if you make a mistake and somebody
hauls you into court? Hire a lawyer?

Keep trying, Wilbur. I'm the attorney of record in several reported cases in
the State and federal courts.

That's just awful! What are the charges against you?

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

SKIP Please Read USCG COLREGS
 

On Aug 19, 5:04 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

ups.com...

And for you, I hope you learn to relax and enjoy your dream instead of
fretting over ColRegs and such. Besides thoes rules are for ships not
sailboats like ours.....

Now, that's among the more uninformed statements posted here on this
group this year and that's saying something! I'm very familiar with the
COLREGS and I never saw the rule that states "these rules are for ships
and not sailboats like ours." I suppose I could have missed it. Perhaps
you could point it out to me?

It's shockingly disgraceful how many slackers are out on the water
without the smallest iota of a clue.

Wilbur Hubbard


My Dearst Willlburrr;
What can I say............................................... ......
Keep up the work!.I find your encouragment frightfully hepfull.
Bob

SKIP Please Read USCG COLREGS
 

Farwell's is out of date. I have an up-to-date discussion including
specific court cases on my web page. This topic is specifically
discussed.

http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...&groupid=45696

See "Rules for the Rest of Us"


John...