Flying Pig ?
 

Anybody heard from Skip and Lydia lately?

Last I heard they were near Frying Pan Shoals headed for Beaufort, NC
on Aug 6.

I'd have thought they would be in by now.

Flying Pig ?
 

On Aug 9, 4:44 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
Anybody heard from Skip and Lydia lately?

Last I heard they were near Frying Pan Shoals headed for Beaufort, NC
on Aug 6.

I'd have thought they would be in by now.

We're in Beaufort. Stay tuned for the reports, and thanks for the
concerns. No worries...

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it
come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands.
You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

Flying Pig ?
 

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:18:00 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote:

We're in Beaufort.

Good deal.

I always regard Beaufort as the half way mark heading to the north
east. Do you have the bridge clearance to take the ICW to Norfolk?
That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Flying Pig ?
 

On Aug 9, 5:28 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:18:00 -0000, Skip Gundlach

wrote:
We're in Beaufort.

Good deal.

I always regard Beaufort as the half way mark heading to the north
east. Do you have the bridge clearance to take the ICW to Norfolk?
That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.
In Beaufort we'll go around, toward Morehead City, to miss the shallow
cut there, but otherwise we've been assured by many (see Charleston
post) that we're going to be fine all the way.

Thanks for asking. Nice to have some conversations where the thread
doesn't get ugly :{)) (no, I'm not bothered - see prior threads about
that)

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make
it
come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands.
You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

Flying Pig ?
 

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:45:44 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote:

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.

Be careful at the Wilkerson Bridge. It's about 1 fry short of a happy
meal at 64 ft, supposedly a design error.

Lat 35-33.31 / Lon 76-26-35

Flying Pig ?
 

It depends on the "tide".
I can't remember which wind direction piles the water up, but if you can't
make it, there is less back tracking when going north than when going south.
I have called a marina at Belhaven to determine water levels.
Yeah, I can't believe the NC Highway Dept cut it so close.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:45:44 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote:

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.

Be careful at the Wilkerson Bridge. It's about 1 fry short of a happy
meal at 64 ft, supposedly a design error.

Lat 35-33.31 / Lon 76-26-35

Flying Pig ?
 

Wayne.B wrote in
:

Anybody heard from Skip and Lydia lately?

Last I heard they were near Frying Pan Shoals headed for Beaufort, NC
on Aug 6.

I'd have thought they would be in by now.


Got a message from Skip just this afternoon. They're there and just
fine. The little Honda 2KW EU2000i was charging the laptop on AC as he
typed it while the batteries charged.






These *******s keep calling me so I'm feeding them to the spambots.
--
Sunrise Communications
1374 E. Republic Rd.
Springfield, MO 65804
866-483-1228
417-886-7091
http://www.sunrisecommunicationsinc.com/
877-842-3210
866-842-3278
United Healthcare
http://www.unitedhealthcareonline.com/

Flying Pig ?
 

Don't worry, all relevant, as well as all irrelevant events will be
posted in the greatest detail imaginable. :)

On Aug 9, 1:44 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
Anybody heard from Skip and Lydia lately?

Last I heard they were near Frying Pan Shoals headed for Beaufort, NC
on Aug 6.

I'd have thought they would be in by now.

Flying Pig ?
 

On Aug 9, 2:45 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.
Skip
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC

Hello Skip........

PLEASE tell me that you have a Coast Pilot for that part of the world
and dont rely only on helpful people for bridge clearance?!?1??@@??
@?!?!?!?

Also, I believe "SV Flying Pig" is more of a S/Y (Saling Yacht).
Although I suppose it could also be a OL/S (oil screw).
But probably others here may know better.

Wont go under a bridge without a Coast Pilot Bob

Flying Pig ?
 

"Bob" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 9, 2:45 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.
Skip
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC

Hello Skip........

PLEASE tell me that you have a Coast Pilot for that part of the world
and dont rely only on helpful people for bridge clearance?!?1??@@??
@?!?!?!?

Also, I believe "SV Flying Pig" is more of a S/Y (Saling Yacht).
Although I suppose it could also be a OL/S (oil screw).
But probably others here may know better.

Wont go under a bridge without a Coast Pilot Bob


Because of the ineptitude of the crew, "Flying Pig" cannot be labeled
S/V or S/Y. The proper label would have to be L/S Flying Pig for
"Laughing Stock."

Wilbur Hubbard

Flying Pig ?
 

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:19:58 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Because of the ineptitude of the crew, "Flying Pig" cannot be labeled
S/V or S/Y. The proper label would have to be L/S Flying Pig for
"Laughing Stock."

Give it a rest.

At least they are out cruising and getting the boat shaken down.

What are you doing?

Flying Pig ?
 

On Aug 11, 10:19 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 9, 2:45 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to go.
Skip
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC

Hello Skip........

PLEASE tell me that you have a Coast Pilot for that part of the world
and dont rely only on helpful people for bridge clearance?!?1??@@??
@?!?!?!?

Also, I believe "SV Flying Pig" is more of a S/Y (Saling Yacht).
Although I suppose it could also be a OL/S (oil screw).
But probably others here may know better.

Wont go under a bridge without a Coast Pilot Bob

Because of the ineptitude of the crew, "Flying Pig" cannot be labeled
S/V or S/Y. The proper label would have to be L/S Flying Pig for
"Laughing Stock."

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Willl burrr:

Did you read Skips comment about how he stands watch? this is what
Skip wrote:

Our radar is set for 24 nautical miles. The typical shipping traffic
is moving at 15-30 knots, so I check every 15 minutes while I'm at the
keyboard. In 15 minutes, the fastest shipping would move 8 miles or
less, so
that would give us ample warning to pay very close attention.
Meanwhile, Otto (the autopilot) continues his faithful duty, steering
us to
the waypoint off Cape Fear.

Do you see any problems spending your watch typing and looking at a
RADAR screen? I guess he doesnt relize some sailboats dont show on
radar along with floating rope, logs, etc.

Whats your take?
Bob

Flying Pig ?
 

"Bob" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 11, 10:19 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 9, 2:45 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

That stretch is one of the nicer parts of the ICW.

Unless someone's misled us, we're under 65' and should be good to
go.
Skip
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC

Hello Skip........

PLEASE tell me that you have a Coast Pilot for that part of the
world
and dont rely only on helpful people for bridge clearance?!?1??@@??
@?!?!?!?

Also, I believe "SV Flying Pig" is more of a S/Y (Saling Yacht).
Although I suppose it could also be a OL/S (oil screw).
But probably others here may know better.

Wont go under a bridge without a Coast Pilot Bob

Because of the ineptitude of the crew, "Flying Pig" cannot be labeled
S/V or S/Y. The proper label would have to be L/S Flying Pig for
"Laughing Stock."

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Willl burrr:

Did you read Skips comment about how he stands watch? this is what
Skip wrote:

Our radar is set for 24 nautical miles. The typical shipping traffic
is moving at 15-30 knots, so I check every 15 minutes while I'm at
the
keyboard. In 15 minutes, the fastest shipping would move 8 miles or
less, so
that would give us ample warning to pay very close attention.
Meanwhile, Otto (the autopilot) continues his faithful duty, steering
us to
the waypoint off Cape Fear.

Do you see any problems spending your watch typing and looking at a
RADAR screen? I guess he doesnt relize some sailboats dont show on
radar along with floating rope, logs, etc.

Whats your take?
Bob


Radar is but a single aid to navigation. To rely on it exclusively is
folly. One must use all aids to navigation available to one. Up there
around Cape Fear there's plenty of shallow water that does not show up
on radar or the charts. It's a shifting mess.

Skip's an accident waiting to happen. He's a fool. Besides only an idiot
goes AROUND the cape. There is a very safe and well marked yacht channel
right through Frying Pan Shoals that cuts miles off the more dangerous
Cape Fear route where big shipping going south plies close in to avoid
the north set of the Gulf Stream.

Wilbur Hubbard

Flying Pig ?
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Skip's an accident waiting to happen. He's a fool. Besides only an idiot
goes AROUND the cape. There is a very safe and well marked yacht channel
right through Frying Pan Shoals that cuts miles off the more dangerous
Cape Fear route where big shipping going south plies close in to avoid
the north set of the Gulf Stream.

Wilbur Hubbard


Says the village idiot...

Good grief, Willie.

How did you get so damned negative?

You need a blow job worse than any white man in history!

(Robin Williams - Good Morning Viet Nam)

Flying Pig ?
 

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
news:gunvi.695$%t4.120@trnddc03...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Skip's an accident waiting to happen. He's a fool. Besides only an
idiot goes AROUND the cape. There is a very safe and well marked
yacht channel right through Frying Pan Shoals that cuts miles off the
more dangerous Cape Fear route where big shipping going south plies
close in to avoid the north set of the Gulf Stream.

Wilbur Hubbard


Says the village idiot...

Good grief, Willie.

How did you get so damned negative?

You need a blow job worse than any white man in history!



I was mentored by the best. That'd be the Good Captain Neal. Like him, I
don't believe in politically correct speech. I tell it like it is.
That's the more manly way. If it hurts somebody's little feelings I
couldn't care less. The truth's more important than feelings. Besides,
somebody needs to slap some sense into the guy before he comes to
serious grief.

Wilbur Hubbard

Flying Pig ?
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
news:gunvi.695$%t4.120@trnddc03...

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Skip's an accident waiting to happen. He's a fool. Besides only an
idiot goes AROUND the cape. There is a very safe and well marked
yacht channel right through Frying Pan Shoals that cuts miles off the
more dangerous Cape Fear route where big shipping going south plies
close in to avoid the north set of the Gulf Stream.

Wilbur Hubbard



Says the village idiot...

Good grief, Willie.

How did you get so damned negative?

You need a blow job worse than any white man in history!



I was mentored by the best. That'd be the Good Captain Neal. Like him, I
don't believe in politically correct speech. I tell it like it is.
That's the more manly way. If it hurts somebody's little feelings I
couldn't care less. The truth's more important than feelings. Besides,
somebody needs to slap some sense into the guy before he comes to
serious grief.

Wilbur Hubbard



Actually, as far as I'm concerned, that's the most honest and human note
you've ever posted. I certaintly agree with the manlyness of it.
I mean, after all, see my previous :).


But it's not you job to slap sense into other people.


And, like I said the first time we crossed paths,
Nobody is going to listen to you - because of the WAY you say things,

You could be right as rain about something.
But the self important - all knowing attitude sucks SO BAD that nobody
but nobody will ever hear you.

Do you realize that you come across like you think you are the guy who
told Noah how to build the Arc?


I admire what Skip and Lydia are trying to do. Doing! Actually.

I'm doing everything I can to get myself in the same position.

Before I pass form this mortal bound I too would like to set course -

"second star to the right - straight on 'til morning".

Flying Pig ?
 

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:57:05 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

And, like I said the first time we crossed paths,
Nobody is going to listen to you - because of the WAY you say things,

You could be right as rain about something.
But the self important - all knowing attitude sucks SO BAD that nobody
but nobody will ever hear you.

Do you realize that you come across like you think you are the guy who
told Noah how to build the Arc?

Some good points there.

I was impressed that Wilbur actually knew about the Cape Fear "cut
through" and the Gulf Stream traffic issue. He might have actually
been out there, but with that attitude, no one cares.

Flying Pig ?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:57:05 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

And, like I said the first time we crossed paths,
Nobody is going to listen to you - because of the WAY you say things,

You could be right as rain about something.
But the self important - all knowing attitude sucks SO BAD that nobody
but nobody will ever hear you.

Do you realize that you come across like you think you are the guy who
told Noah how to build the Arc?

Some good points there.

I was impressed that Wilbur actually knew about the Cape Fear "cut
through" and the Gulf Stream traffic issue. He might have actually
been out there, but with that attitude, no one cares.

There's one thing losers like you and cavelamb will never understand. I
comment the way I comment because I don't give a hoot if politically
correct types with thin skins stop reading what I post. That's exactly
what I want. Treating with small minds is a waste of time. People who
are more concerned with how a message is delivered than the contents of
the message are not worth my wasting my time on. I post for the benefit
of people who lurk and say to themselves, "You know, that's exactly the
way I feel about it." Those are the only people worth bothering with and
it's well worth the time and effort to reinforce their sane outlook on
the world. You overly sensitive types can't cope with reality and I deal
in reality. It's your problem, not mine.

Wilbur Hubbard

Flying Pig ?
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:57:05 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

And, like I said the first time we crossed paths,
Nobody is going to listen to you - because of the WAY you say things,

You could be right as rain about something.
But the self important - all knowing attitude sucks SO BAD that nobody
but nobody will ever hear you.

Do you realize that you come across like you think you are the guy who
told Noah how to build the Arc?


Some good points there.

I was impressed that Wilbur actually knew about the Cape Fear "cut
through" and the Gulf Stream traffic issue. He might have actually
been out there, but with that attitude, no one cares.


There's one thing losers like you and cavelamb will never understand. I
comment the way I comment because I don't give a hoot if politically
correct types with thin skins stop reading what I post. That's exactly
what I want. Treating with small minds is a waste of time. People who
are more concerned with how a message is delivered than the contents of
the message are not worth my wasting my time on. I post for the benefit
of people who lurk and say to themselves, "You know, that's exactly the
way I feel about it." Those are the only people worth bothering with and
it's well worth the time and effort to reinforce their sane outlook on
the world. You overly sensitive types can't cope with reality and I deal
in reality. It's your problem, not mine.

Wilbur Hubbard


"Treating with small minds is a waste of time."

Agree with you there, so I'll not bother with you again, Tiny.
Have it your own way.

Richard

Flying Pig ?
 

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:36:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

You overly sensitive types can't cope with reality and I deal
in reality. It's your problem, not mine.

================================

Incivility is the enemy of reasoned discussion.

Flying Pig ?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:36:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


You overly sensitive types can't cope with reality and I deal
in reality. It's your problem, not mine.


================================

Incivility is the enemy of reasoned discussion.

My favorite is

"Polite discussion ended when gentlemwn quit carrying side arms".

For sure true here.

Flying Pig ?
 

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:03:00 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Incivility is the enemy of reasoned discussion.

My favorite is

"Polite discussion ended when gentlemwn quit carrying side arms".

For sure true here.

Wilbur is a lonely old guy who has offended so many people that this
is the only place he can get a conversation going.

Flying Pig ?
 

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:36:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:57:05 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

And, like I said the first time we crossed paths,
Nobody is going to listen to you - because of the WAY you say things,

You could be right as rain about something.
But the self important - all knowing attitude sucks SO BAD that nobody
but nobody will ever hear you.

Do you realize that you come across like you think you are the guy who
told Noah how to build the Arc?

Some good points there.

I was impressed that Wilbur actually knew about the Cape Fear "cut
through" and the Gulf Stream traffic issue. He might have actually
been out there, but with that attitude, no one cares.

There's one thing losers like you and cavelamb will never understand. I
comment the way I comment because I don't give a hoot if politically
correct types with thin skins stop reading what I post. That's exactly
what I want. Treating with small minds is a waste of time. People who
are more concerned with how a message is delivered than the contents of
the message are not worth my wasting my time on. I post for the benefit
of people who lurk and say to themselves, "You know, that's exactly the
way I feel about it." Those are the only people worth bothering with and
it's well worth the time and effort to reinforce their sane outlook on
the world. You overly sensitive types can't cope with reality and I deal
in reality. It's your problem, not mine.

Wilbur Hubbard

And several things that you apparently will never understand:

When you hide behind a fictitious name and a fake address.
When you continually offer simplistic solutions to complex problems,
and your solutions don't work.
When you lie about the boat you own,
When you refuse to offer any evidence to support your notions of being
a marine expert.
When you claim to be a cruising expert but refuse to offer any
evidence of actually having made a cruise (other then to the local
Wal-Mart).
When you boast about stealing from Wal-Mart,
When you gloat about having violated internationally marine
agreements.
When you continually state that everyone else in the world is either
an idiot or a sissy

People will consider you a horse's ass.

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck,
it probably is a duck.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

Flying Pig ?
 

Flying Pig ?
 

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:37:15 -0400, Rosalie B.
wrote:

wrote:


If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck,
it probably is a duck.

The one I've heard is - if you hear hoofbeats, don't look for zebras
until you've ruled out that they are being made by horses.

I prefer to think of Wilbur as looking, waddling and quacking - like a
duck.

Daffy duck.