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Paul Nightingale December 10th 03 06:15 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
And is it available in Canada?


Peggie Hall December 10th 03 03:22 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
It's called "Get Rid of Boat Odors--A Guide to Marine Sanitation Systems
and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor." The publisher is Seaworthy
Publications (my sig includes a link to it on their site).

And is it available in Canada?


I don't know if it's on the shelf anywhere in Canada yet, but Amazon has
it. You can also buy it directly from my publisher...or, if you'd like a
signed copy, from the online store on the sailboatowners.com site (they
sell it, I sign and mail it for them) at
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Thanks for asking!

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 10th 03 03:22 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
It's called "Get Rid of Boat Odors--A Guide to Marine Sanitation Systems
and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor." The publisher is Seaworthy
Publications (my sig includes a link to it on their site).

And is it available in Canada?


I don't know if it's on the shelf anywhere in Canada yet, but Amazon has
it. You can also buy it directly from my publisher...or, if you'd like a
signed copy, from the online store on the sailboatowners.com site (they
sell it, I sign and mail it for them) at
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Thanks for asking!

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


[email protected] December 10th 03 04:59 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:22:36 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


And is it available in Canada?


I don't know if it's on the shelf anywhere in Canada yet, but Amazon has
it. You can also buy it directly from my publisher...or, if you'd like a
signed copy, from the online store on the sailboatowners.com site (they
sell it, I sign and mail it for them) at
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327


Yes, Peggie, it's available here in Toronto and likely elsewhere. A
new liveaboard friend of mine bought it last month and recommends it
highly.

It's posted at http://www.nauticalmind.com , a very good Toronto
bookshop. If I review it for our club newsletter, I will forward you
the review.

You should consider appearing at the Toronto International Boat Show
this January. It's a vast event and you'll soon learn how many fans
you have on Lake Ontario, where we endeavour to keep the black out of
the blue. 'Cause we drink it, eventually. G

R.

[email protected] December 10th 03 04:59 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:22:36 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


And is it available in Canada?


I don't know if it's on the shelf anywhere in Canada yet, but Amazon has
it. You can also buy it directly from my publisher...or, if you'd like a
signed copy, from the online store on the sailboatowners.com site (they
sell it, I sign and mail it for them) at
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327


Yes, Peggie, it's available here in Toronto and likely elsewhere. A
new liveaboard friend of mine bought it last month and recommends it
highly.

It's posted at http://www.nauticalmind.com , a very good Toronto
bookshop. If I review it for our club newsletter, I will forward you
the review.

You should consider appearing at the Toronto International Boat Show
this January. It's a vast event and you'll soon learn how many fans
you have on Lake Ontario, where we endeavour to keep the black out of
the blue. 'Cause we drink it, eventually. G

R.

Peggie Hall December 10th 03 05:33 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
wrote:

Yes, Peggie, it's available here in Toronto and likely elsewhere. A
new liveaboard friend of mine bought it last month and recommends it
highly.


That's nice to hear!


It's posted at
http://www.nauticalmind.com , a very good Toronto
bookshop. If I review it for our club newsletter, I will forward you
the review.


Thank you!

You should consider appearing at the Toronto International Boat Show
this January. It's a vast event and you'll soon learn how many fans
you have on Lake Ontario, where we endeavour to keep the black out of
the blue. 'Cause we drink it, eventually. G


I would love to, but it's a bit late to plan for this coming January.
Maybe in '05. Are there seminars at the Toronto show?

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 10th 03 05:33 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
wrote:

Yes, Peggie, it's available here in Toronto and likely elsewhere. A
new liveaboard friend of mine bought it last month and recommends it
highly.


That's nice to hear!


It's posted at
http://www.nauticalmind.com , a very good Toronto
bookshop. If I review it for our club newsletter, I will forward you
the review.


Thank you!

You should consider appearing at the Toronto International Boat Show
this January. It's a vast event and you'll soon learn how many fans
you have on Lake Ontario, where we endeavour to keep the black out of
the blue. 'Cause we drink it, eventually. G


I would love to, but it's a bit late to plan for this coming January.
Maybe in '05. Are there seminars at the Toronto show?

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Don White December 11th 03 12:58 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.
If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?
Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?



Don White December 11th 03 12:58 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.
If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?
Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?



Peggie Hall December 11th 03 03:23 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.


There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?


You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.

Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?


Nope.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 11th 03 03:23 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.


There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?


You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.

Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?


Nope.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Vito December 11th 03 03:00 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
"Peggie Hall" wrote
Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.


There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical

toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?


You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.


The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."

Thanks for a great book Peggy.



Vito December 11th 03 03:00 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
"Peggie Hall" wrote
Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.


There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical

toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?


You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.


The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."

Thanks for a great book Peggy.



Peggie Hall December 11th 03 03:22 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Vito wrote:
The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."


It would be if the boat has a marine toilet. But unfortunately, that
wouldn't work to dump a permanently installed portapotty (which is what
he asked about) 'cuz a Lectra/San can only accept a maximum of 1 gallon
at a time.

Thanks for a great book Peggy.


Glad you find it useful!


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 11th 03 03:22 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Vito wrote:
The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."


It would be if the boat has a marine toilet. But unfortunately, that
wouldn't work to dump a permanently installed portapotty (which is what
he asked about) 'cuz a Lectra/San can only accept a maximum of 1 gallon
at a time.

Thanks for a great book Peggy.


Glad you find it useful!


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Don White December 11th 03 10:11 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.




Don White December 11th 03 10:11 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.




Peggie Hall December 11th 03 11:05 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Don White wrote:
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


NOW you tell me! :) Canadian coastal waters are the only ones that are
behind us...the Great Lakes wouldn't be "no discharge" if Canada hadn't
insisted on it some 30+ years ago...long before we had ANY marine
sanitation laws.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 11th 03 11:05 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Don White wrote:
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


NOW you tell me! :) Canadian coastal waters are the only ones that are
behind us...the Great Lakes wouldn't be "no discharge" if Canada hadn't
insisted on it some 30+ years ago...long before we had ANY marine
sanitation laws.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Ken Heaton December 11th 03 11:18 PM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.






Ken Heaton December 11th 03 11:18 PM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.






Don White December 12th 03 01:48 AM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we

may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be

designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.








Don White December 12th 03 01:48 AM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we

may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be

designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.








Ken Heaton December 12th 03 02:26 AM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
The boat I sail on has a pitiful little 12 gallon Jabsco holding tank that
came with the boat (1973). It isn't connected, the hose from the toilet
goes straight to the thru hull. The general consensus around here is that
there aren't enough pumping stations on the lakes. There are pumpouts at
Baddeck, Iona/Grand Narrows & St. Peters. It won't be a problem for our
Great Lakes visitors and for most American visitors, but it's certainly
going to be a problem for our east coast Canadian visitors.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we

may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from

a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be

designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/





Ken Heaton December 12th 03 02:26 AM

Canadian East Coast no dumping regulations, Was:Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
The boat I sail on has a pitiful little 12 gallon Jabsco holding tank that
came with the boat (1973). It isn't connected, the hose from the toilet
goes straight to the thru hull. The general consensus around here is that
there aren't enough pumping stations on the lakes. There are pumpouts at
Baddeck, Iona/Grand Narrows & St. Peters. It won't be a problem for our
Great Lakes visitors and for most American visitors, but it's certainly
going to be a problem for our east coast Canadian visitors.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we

may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from

a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be

designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/





Rick December 12th 03 03:26 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank.


Wanna bet?

Rick


Rick December 12th 03 03:26 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank.


Wanna bet?

Rick


Peggie Hall December 12th 03 03:40 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank.



Wanna bet?


Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 12th 03 03:40 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank.



Wanna bet?


Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
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[email protected] December 12th 03 04:53 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:33:37 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


I would love to, but it's a bit late to plan for this coming January.
Maybe in '05. Are there seminars at the Toronto show?

Peggie


There's presentations and booths...seemingly hundreds of booths. Check
out the folks behind this website


http://www.discoverboating.com/boats...,0,65,0&bhqs=1

and they will no doubt get you (or your publisher!) exhibitors'
information.

Conversely, contact Nautical Mind. They have been known to sponsor
authors giving speeches/seminars at local yacht clubs and so on.
Toronto's got five million people in it and a very large lake that's
one big no-discharge zone. Personally, 90% of the stuff I see is Groco
or Jabsco with a few Par models. I would love to hear about a wider
range of heads, hose options, holding tank options and so on.

I find most marine heads in Lake Ontario boats to be cheaply built and
a little suspect. Given that the Great Lakes range from "pump-outs
most places" to "you are completely on your own" (i.e. the Upper Great
Lakes), I would suspect a lot of Canadians would like to hear your
thoughts on plumbing under sail.

R.

[email protected] December 12th 03 04:53 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:33:37 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


I would love to, but it's a bit late to plan for this coming January.
Maybe in '05. Are there seminars at the Toronto show?

Peggie


There's presentations and booths...seemingly hundreds of booths. Check
out the folks behind this website


http://www.discoverboating.com/boats...,0,65,0&bhqs=1

and they will no doubt get you (or your publisher!) exhibitors'
information.

Conversely, contact Nautical Mind. They have been known to sponsor
authors giving speeches/seminars at local yacht clubs and so on.
Toronto's got five million people in it and a very large lake that's
one big no-discharge zone. Personally, 90% of the stuff I see is Groco
or Jabsco with a few Par models. I would love to hear about a wider
range of heads, hose options, holding tank options and so on.

I find most marine heads in Lake Ontario boats to be cheaply built and
a little suspect. Given that the Great Lakes range from "pump-outs
most places" to "you are completely on your own" (i.e. the Upper Great
Lakes), I would suspect a lot of Canadians would like to hear your
thoughts on plumbing under sail.

R.

[email protected] December 12th 03 04:56 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

[email protected] December 12th 03 04:56 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

Rick December 12th 03 05:22 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.


Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Rick


Rick December 12th 03 05:22 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.


Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Rick


Peggie Hall December 12th 03 07:18 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 


Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.



Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"


Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.

The applicable federal law is 40 CFR 140.1-5, btw. You can read it at
http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/4...0/wcd0006d.asp

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall December 12th 03 07:18 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 


Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.



Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"


Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.

The applicable federal law is 40 CFR 140.1-5, btw. You can read it at
http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/4...0/wcd0006d.asp

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Ken Heaton December 12th 03 10:41 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Yes, Halifax is getting a series of three sewage treatment plants to finally
treat its sewage. Sydney, where I live, is getting one as well, should be
up and running by next fall. Low tide on a hot still day tends to be worse
than "high tide". ;-)
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.




Ken Heaton December 12th 03 10:41 AM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Yes, Halifax is getting a series of three sewage treatment plants to finally
treat its sewage. Sydney, where I live, is getting one as well, should be
up and running by next fall. Low tide on a hot still day tends to be worse
than "high tide". ;-)
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.


Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.




Rick December 12th 03 02:46 PM

Peggy What is the name of your book?
 
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.



Wrong again. It is not a matter of enforcement at all. The "donut holes"
are areas that are more than 3 miles from the nearest land. They are
shoreward of the boundary line, within the waters of the State of Alaska
and well within what anyone would call the "inside passage."

It is perfectly legal to pump sewage in these areas. Law was recently
made to prohibit large passenger vessels (read cruise ships) from
dumping untreated sewage in these areas but for other than commercial
passenger vessels above a certain size it is perfectly legal.

As a matter of fact you may sail from just north of Seattle all the way
to Glacier Bay on the inside passage and never break the law so long as
you observe the location of the donut holes while in SE Alaska.

Rick



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