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EJBleendreeble December 2nd 03 11:23 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
There's a contributor's review of Patrick O'Brian's novels at
http://www.casualsailor.com/PatrickOBrian.html . It's a thoughtful
piece, but O'Brian fans should not expect it to be uncritical. I tend
to agree with the reviewer that the novels are enjoyable but that
their quality has been overstated.

E.J. Bleendreeble
http://www.casualsailor.com

Bumper7 December 3rd 03 06:53 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Hmm, it seems you are wrong. O'brian's character was based upon a real
person named Cochrane, and he was much larger than life!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/anthony.../r/thomas.html
Also, the latest issue of Smithsonian Magazine has a great article on
the guy!
http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/s...ccurrent.shtml





EJBleendreeble wrote:
There's a contributor's review of Patrick O'Brian's novels at
http://www.casualsailor.com/PatrickOBrian.html . It's a thoughtful
piece, but O'Brian fans should not expect it to be uncritical. I tend
to agree with the reviewer that the novels are enjoyable but that
their quality has been overstated.

E.J. Bleendreeble
http://www.casualsailor.com



Bumper7 December 3rd 03 06:53 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Hmm, it seems you are wrong. O'brian's character was based upon a real
person named Cochrane, and he was much larger than life!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/anthony.../r/thomas.html
Also, the latest issue of Smithsonian Magazine has a great article on
the guy!
http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/s...ccurrent.shtml





EJBleendreeble wrote:
There's a contributor's review of Patrick O'Brian's novels at
http://www.casualsailor.com/PatrickOBrian.html . It's a thoughtful
piece, but O'Brian fans should not expect it to be uncritical. I tend
to agree with the reviewer that the novels are enjoyable but that
their quality has been overstated.

E.J. Bleendreeble
http://www.casualsailor.com



Gogarty December 5th 03 05:21 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Been watching a couple of TV movies of Hornblower. Much better than
Master and Commander. Even if the bad guys were all Irish.

As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.


Gogarty December 5th 03 05:21 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Been watching a couple of TV movies of Hornblower. Much better than
Master and Commander. Even if the bad guys were all Irish.

As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.


Klaus December 8th 03 07:14 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.



Klaus December 8th 03 07:14 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.



padeen December 8th 03 10:27 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Klaus, your remarks about POB's writing "rambling on" brings Emperor Joseph
II's famous observation, 'Too many notes, my dear Mozart' to mind.



"Klaus" wrote in message
...
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold

off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why

does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that

might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more

real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.





padeen December 8th 03 10:27 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Klaus, your remarks about POB's writing "rambling on" brings Emperor Joseph
II's famous observation, 'Too many notes, my dear Mozart' to mind.



"Klaus" wrote in message
...
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold

off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why

does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that

might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more

real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.





Vic Fraenckel December 8th 03 10:41 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Vic

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"Klaus" wrote in message
...
| That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
| reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
| they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
| through the second.
| I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold
off.
| But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why
does
| he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that
might
| be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
| very boring style of writing.
| Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.
|
| Klaus
|
| Gogarty wrote:
|
|
|
| As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
| Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
| much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more
real
| character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
| tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.
|




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