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Vic Fraenckel December 8th 03 10:41 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Vic

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"Klaus" wrote in message
...
| That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
| reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which ones
| they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
| through the second.
| I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold
off.
| But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why
does
| he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that
might
| be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
| very boring style of writing.
| Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.
|
| Klaus
|
| Gogarty wrote:
|
|
|
| As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
| Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
| much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more
real
| character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the last
| tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.
|



Gogarty December 8th 03 06:38 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.


Gogarty December 8th 03 06:38 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.


Edward Fryer December 9th 03 07:50 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.


Most people attribute this to the death of his wife Mary; she died in 1998.
IIRC, Before she died, every single Aubrey-Maturin book had been dedicated
to her.




Edward Fryer December 9th 03 07:50 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?

Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.


Most people attribute this to the death of his wife Mary; she died in 1998.
IIRC, Before she died, every single Aubrey-Maturin book had been dedicated
to her.




Chuck Bollinger December 9th 03 04:30 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Edward Fryer wrote:

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?


Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.



Most people attribute this to the death of his wife Mary; she died in 1998.
IIRC, Before she died, every single Aubrey-Maturin book had been dedicated
to her.

That's interesting. I haven't found anyone who felt that Blue at the Mizzen was
even includable in the series. I've never read such a disconnected tome in my
life. Almost as though an untalented editor had assembled an anthology of floor
sweepings. But I never had any idea why - just thought it might be senility.



Chuck Bollinger December 9th 03 04:30 PM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
Edward Fryer wrote:

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...


Gogarty wrote:
| Indeed, I read somewhere that he was having
| them ghost-written .....

Is there any EVIDENCE of this?


Only hearsay that I know of. But the last three are devoid of inspiration.
Of course, O'Brian was quite old by then.



Most people attribute this to the death of his wife Mary; she died in 1998.
IIRC, Before she died, every single Aubrey-Maturin book had been dedicated
to her.

That's interesting. I haven't found anyone who felt that Blue at the Mizzen was
even includable in the series. I've never read such a disconnected tome in my
life. Almost as though an untalented editor had assembled an anthology of floor
sweepings. But I never had any idea why - just thought it might be senility.



Tom R. December 12th 03 12:59 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
I read all the POB Aubrey novels. I struggled through the first, but became
accustomed to POB's style and then found the rest of the books easy
(although some were dreadfully boring). I found that there were two types of
readers: those who hated the books and those who loved them. There is no way
to tell who will like them and those who won't. Nevertheless, when I had the
opportunity to visit HMS Victory a few years ago, the memories of POB's
description of Trafalgar were vivid. I felt that I was re-living those
events as I stood on deck and below where Nelson died. As for the movie, I
thought it was spectacular. I brought my wife who I did not think would like
a guy movie like that. She loved it and told me to buy the sequel tickets
early.

Everyone's taste is different. Thank the god of your choice.

Tom


"padeen" wrote in message
...
Klaus, your remarks about POB's writing "rambling on" brings Emperor

Joseph
II's famous observation, 'Too many notes, my dear Mozart' to mind.



"Klaus" wrote in message
...
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which

ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold

off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why

does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that

might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more

real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the

last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was

having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.







Tom R. December 12th 03 12:59 AM

Patrick O'Brians novels (was Master and Commander)
 
I read all the POB Aubrey novels. I struggled through the first, but became
accustomed to POB's style and then found the rest of the books easy
(although some were dreadfully boring). I found that there were two types of
readers: those who hated the books and those who loved them. There is no way
to tell who will like them and those who won't. Nevertheless, when I had the
opportunity to visit HMS Victory a few years ago, the memories of POB's
description of Trafalgar were vivid. I felt that I was re-living those
events as I stood on deck and below where Nelson died. As for the movie, I
thought it was spectacular. I brought my wife who I did not think would like
a guy movie like that. She loved it and told me to buy the sequel tickets
early.

Everyone's taste is different. Thank the god of your choice.

Tom


"padeen" wrote in message
...
Klaus, your remarks about POB's writing "rambling on" brings Emperor

Joseph
II's famous observation, 'Too many notes, my dear Mozart' to mind.



"Klaus" wrote in message
...
That might explain why I found O'Brian the only author I did not finish
reading a book of. Actually, I read 1 1/2 of his novels. Forgot which

ones
they were by now. Struggled through the first one but gave up halfway
through the second.
I like reading books with this nautical theme. Read any I can get hold

off.
But the utterly boring writing style of O'Brian is hard to stomach. Why

does
he have to write sentences so endlessly long? It kills any action that

might
be in there. It's very hard to follow what he's rambling on about. Its a
very boring style of writing.
Too bad, no more O'Brian novels for me.

Klaus

Gogarty wrote:



As for O'Brain's novels, they are not better than CS Forester's
Hornblower series but different. In a way, more real-life. Aubrey is a
much more flawed human being than is Hornblower and thus a much more

real
character. But I do feel that O'Brian ran badly out f steam on the

last
tyhree or so in the series. Indeed, I read somewhere that he was

having
them ghost-written by that time. They had certainlky become formulaic.








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