From another list:

RULE 33(a) is amended to read as follows:

(a) A vessel of 12 meters or more in length shall be provided with a
whistle, a vessel of 20 meters or more in length shall be provided with
a bell in addition to a whistle, and a vessel of 100 meters or more in
length shall, in addition, be provided with a gong, the tone and sound
of which cannot be confused with that of the bell. The whistle, bell,
and gong shall comply with the specifications in Annex III to these
Regulations. The bell or gong or both may be replaced by other equipment
having the same respective sound characteristics, provided that manual
sounding of the required signals shall always be possible.

Please note that the bell is no longer required on a vessel 12 meters or
more but less than 20 meters in length.

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules2003.htm
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Yep! That's the argument I made with the surveyor a couple years ago..

Steve
s/v Good Intention

Yep! That's the argument I made with the surveyor a couple years ago..

Steve
s/v Good Intention

Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

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Yep! That's the argument I made with the surveyor a couple years ago..

Steve
s/v Good Intention

Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

--
Eliminate "ns" for email address.

Yep! That's the argument I made with the surveyor a couple years ago..

Steve
s/v Good Intention

The "Inland Rules" would govern. Since the Inland rules are trying to
mirror the International closely and considering the reasoning for the
change (vessel size), I would bet that once they create the inserts to
correct your rules book, you will find this applying to both
international and inland.

Len Krauss wrote:
Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

The "Inland Rules" would govern. Since the Inland rules are trying to
mirror the International closely and considering the reasoning for the
change (vessel size), I would bet that once they create the inserts to
correct your rules book, you will find this applying to both
international and inland.

Len Krauss wrote:
Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

State regs will often replicate Fed, e.g. in Oregon the 'bell' is
called out as required equipment ala what COLREGS were (or are for a
little while longer :-)

(Note that at least in Oregon, no usage rules, just you need to have
one.)

Might take a while for states to catch up. So.......

-al-


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:10:51 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

The "Inland Rules" would govern. Since the Inland rules are trying to
mirror the International closely and considering the reasoning for the
change (vessel size), I would bet that once they create the inserts to
correct your rules book, you will find this applying to both
international and inland.

Len Krauss wrote:
Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

State regs will often replicate Fed, e.g. in Oregon the 'bell' is
called out as required equipment ala what COLREGS were (or are for a
little while longer :-)

(Note that at least in Oregon, no usage rules, just you need to have
one.)

Might take a while for states to catch up. So.......

-al-


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:10:51 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

The "Inland Rules" would govern. Since the Inland rules are trying to
mirror the International closely and considering the reasoning for the
change (vessel size), I would bet that once they create the inserts to
correct your rules book, you will find this applying to both
international and inland.

Len Krauss wrote:
Looks like that revision was effective only as of Nov 2003.

Question now is what are the regs inward of COLREGS demarkations?
I think state or Army Corps regs govern. Local water smokies could catch us
on a technicality.

Len

A surveyor has no business in this kind of thing.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yep! That's the argument I made with the surveyor a couple years ago..

Steve
s/v Good Intention