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Jeff Morris November 29th 03 06:27 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I don't mind a few "private" comments - In fact I took the opportunity to find
out where Sydney Harbor is. And, as a former Paceship owner (Eastwind), I was
curious about the Bluejacket.

However, I think its very rude to have a 14 line signature, when the netiquette
standard is 3. Is that why you're called "The Windman"?

BTW, I think the new Hornblower movies are pretty good. And while the "Master
and ..." movie lacks a plot, this is not the worst thing for an action movie.
Frankly, I thought the POB books lacked action and never finished the series -
the movie was much more enjoyable.

-jeff www.sv-loki.com
If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic. -Zippy


"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
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Dare to change the subject so we do not have to read your private
communications if we choose not to.

Thanks

Vic

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"Don White" wrote in message
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| Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
| I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
| I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
| unless I felt it was worthwhile.
| Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
| ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
| I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do
theBras
| d'Or Lakes etc.
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| Ken Heaton wrote in message
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| "Don White" wrote in message
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| Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?
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| Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour.
Summers
| in
| the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II)
but
| crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue
Jacket.
| Or go out with friends of course.
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| Cape Breton Island, Canada
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| Ken Heaton wrote in message
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| I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I
started
| off
| enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've
recently
| finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
| immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.
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| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
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Jack Nichols November 29th 03 06:59 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

Hey, don't underestimate Tom Cruise, he reminded me of a young Ronald
Reagan --he might run for President.

I loved it when he said, "some people can't handle the truth" and then
he chuckled.

http://www.geocities.com/tom5515/frame.htm

It's a line from the movie, "Afew Good Men" and he evidently thinks
that we are all starved for the truth --he might be right.

Jack Nichols November 29th 03 06:59 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

Hey, don't underestimate Tom Cruise, he reminded me of a young Ronald
Reagan --he might run for President.

I loved it when he said, "some people can't handle the truth" and then
he chuckled.

http://www.geocities.com/tom5515/frame.htm

It's a line from the movie, "Afew Good Men" and he evidently thinks
that we are all starved for the truth --he might be right.

Gogarty November 30th 03 04:00 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--

There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including "Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."


Gogarty November 30th 03 04:00 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--

There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including "Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."


Gogarty November 30th 03 04:09 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article , says...



With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly

just
to see the sailing scenes.


Despite that the entire movie takes place on baord ship, with a stop in Brazil
and in the Galapagos, there is not that much sailing. The storm scene is
pretty good. But I can think of at least two vividly painted scene in the
books that shoukld have made it into the film. One was when Surprise was
making her easting down with days and days of fair strong wind and the whole
crew just relaxed silently into the joy of sailing. A second was the
destruction of the Dutch warship that pooped in following seas when a luck
shot from Surprise's stern chasers took out her forestay. But there was also
so much in the books aboyut politics, spycraft (the escape as dancing bears),
finance and so much more not even hinted at in the picture, which must have
been later than the original book since Aubrey sports two epaulets.


Gogarty November 30th 03 04:09 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article , says...



With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly

just
to see the sailing scenes.


Despite that the entire movie takes place on baord ship, with a stop in Brazil
and in the Galapagos, there is not that much sailing. The storm scene is
pretty good. But I can think of at least two vividly painted scene in the
books that shoukld have made it into the film. One was when Surprise was
making her easting down with days and days of fair strong wind and the whole
crew just relaxed silently into the joy of sailing. A second was the
destruction of the Dutch warship that pooped in following seas when a luck
shot from Surprise's stern chasers took out her forestay. But there was also
so much in the books aboyut politics, spycraft (the escape as dancing bears),
finance and so much more not even hinted at in the picture, which must have
been later than the original book since Aubrey sports two epaulets.


padeen November 30th 03 08:34 AM

Lobscouse & Spotted Dog
 
by Anne Chotzinoff Grossman & Lisa Grossman Thomas (Forward by Patrick
O'Brian, whoever he is!)


"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--

There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including

"Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."




padeen November 30th 03 08:34 AM

Lobscouse & Spotted Dog
 
by Anne Chotzinoff Grossman & Lisa Grossman Thomas (Forward by Patrick
O'Brian, whoever he is!)


"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--

There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including

"Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."




padeen November 30th 03 08:44 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
M& C; The Movie was very disappointing for me as well, but it showed me two
things. One was just how bloody crowded the deck of a fifth rate must have
been, and the other was virtually all the things about the POB series that I
cared least about!
And Crowe was not any kind of Jack Aubrey that I recognized.


"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
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Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,

complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is

said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish

the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you

would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music

recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and

dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and

they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"

series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too

MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.

Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle,

boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the

camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a

long
time.






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