Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

On 28 Nov 2003 20:28:35 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB


Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.
The only place you can see anything is in the very center of the
screen and that is poor. You can not scan the horizon and find very
much.
If you happen to look toward any light they will bloom and blind you
for 10 minutes. The automatic gain control is very bad.
If you know where to look through them then they do enhance the light
a little but not much. And if you already know where to look then you
don't need it in the first place. You can see just about as well with
the naked eye.

Compare that to a good one like the ITT. You will be amazed. Those are
very worthwhile but expensive.

Just my opinion

Gary

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

On 28 Nov 2003 20:28:35 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB


Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.
The only place you can see anything is in the very center of the
screen and that is poor. You can not scan the horizon and find very
much.
If you happen to look toward any light they will bloom and blind you
for 10 minutes. The automatic gain control is very bad.
If you know where to look through them then they do enhance the light
a little but not much. And if you already know where to look then you
don't need it in the first place. You can see just about as well with
the naked eye.

Compare that to a good one like the ITT. You will be amazed. Those are
very worthwhile but expensive.

Just my opinion

Gary

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

mostly junk!!1
you get what you pay for...


"Jed" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

mostly junk!!1
you get what you pay for...


"Jed" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

Sheesh!
Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for". That is the most worn out,
least apropriate addage to soil our ears. It is the phrase that
advertizers leaked to the masses. do you now whay a Rolex costs so much?
simpy because of the exclusivity factor not because it is 'worth it' or
that it keps time 20,000 times better. I can think of hundreds of
instances personally where i got less and paid more....
If you can see at all in the dark even once and avoided a collision for
$70 it would be "worth it" would it not?
now, where was I??? oh yeah, building the better mouse trap and waiting
for the world to beat a path to my door.
(no harm intended, just my pet peave)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:08 GMT, just me wrote:

mostly junk!!1
you get what you pay for...


"Jed" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?










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Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

Sheesh!
Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for". That is the most worn out,
least apropriate addage to soil our ears. It is the phrase that
advertizers leaked to the masses. do you now whay a Rolex costs so much?
simpy because of the exclusivity factor not because it is 'worth it' or
that it keps time 20,000 times better. I can think of hundreds of
instances personally where i got less and paid more....
If you can see at all in the dark even once and avoided a collision for
$70 it would be "worth it" would it not?
now, where was I??? oh yeah, building the better mouse trap and waiting
for the world to beat a path to my door.
(no harm intended, just my pet peave)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:08 GMT, just me wrote:

mostly junk!!1
you get what you pay for...


"Jed" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45372

Any experiences or others available?










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Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

I wonder how accurate the 'rangefinder' option is on some binoculars.

Leanne wrote in message
...
I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

I wonder how accurate the 'rangefinder' option is on some binoculars.

Leanne wrote in message
...
I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

On 29 Nov 2003 15:23:06 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB


Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Regards
Gary

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

On 29 Nov 2003 15:23:06 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB


Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Regards
Gary

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

The field
of vision is so small

And just to show that people shouldn't talk when they know so little,
FOV of the NightOwl = 628 at 1000 yards.
Narrow? Not even close. It's VERY wide. In fact its so wide at 3.1x that they
sell an add on lens to increase mag.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

The field
of vision is so small

And just to show that people shouldn't talk when they know so little,
FOV of the NightOwl = 628 at 1000 yards.
Narrow? Not even close. It's VERY wide. In fact its so wide at 3.1x that they
sell an add on lens to increase mag.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Gen 1 suffers from some distortion at edges of FOV. However, this does not
limit the ability to see in th dark and you mearly center an object when you
want a clearer view. In no way is FOV usability compromised.
When boating you want to see an object to know it's there, not make an accurate
sketch of it. For the purposes of nightime sailing, these inexpensive scopes
are amazing. I suggest that anyone reading here ignore Gary's comments AND mine
and try one for yourself. I was also told the Gen 1's were useless and then a
few sailors proved otherwise when sailing on the LIS. I even tried a pair of
those ancient gen 1 Russian binocs, 15-20 years old I think, and even they were
a revalation.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Gen 1 suffers from some distortion at edges of FOV. However, this does not
limit the ability to see in th dark and you mearly center an object when you
want a clearer view. In no way is FOV usability compromised.
When boating you want to see an object to know it's there, not make an accurate
sketch of it. For the purposes of nightime sailing, these inexpensive scopes
are amazing. I suggest that anyone reading here ignore Gary's comments AND mine
and try one for yourself. I was also told the Gen 1's were useless and then a
few sailors proved otherwise when sailing on the LIS. I even tried a pair of
those ancient gen 1 Russian binocs, 15-20 years old I think, and even they were
a revalation.

Capt RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small. I'm intrigued by the fact that
doesn't need batteries. Batteries on my boat don't store very long. I'm
sure that it isn't the best scope out there, and there are currently about a
dozen of them on ebay for under $100 delivered.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a
under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small. I'm intrigued by the fact that
doesn't need batteries. Batteries on my boat don't store very long. I'm
sure that it isn't the best scope out there, and there are currently about a
dozen of them on ebay for under $100 delivered.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using a
under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Update: there are 3 now left. I guess no one here has messed with this
particular unit. I'm gonna take a risk and bid anyhow.

"J. Slater" wrote in message
.. .
Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self
powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small. I'm intrigued by the fact
that
doesn't need batteries. Batteries on my boat don't store very long. I'm
sure that it isn't the best scope out there, and there are currently about
a
dozen of them on ebay for under $100 delivered.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using
a
under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Update: there are 3 now left. I guess no one here has messed with this
particular unit. I'm gonna take a risk and bid anyhow.

"J. Slater" wrote in message
.. .
Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self
powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small. I'm intrigued by the fact
that
doesn't need batteries. Batteries on my boat don't store very long. I'm
sure that it isn't the best scope out there, and there are currently about
a
dozen of them on ebay for under $100 delivered.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Really useful for cruisers would be cheap price, reasonable quality
night vision. I don't buy $300 or $700 binocs and wouldn't consider
those $$$ for night vision either. I see Harbor Freght has one at $69

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45372

See my comments in Alt.Saling.Asa and read reviews on Amazon. I'm using
a
under
$200 Night Owl that works very well.

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small.

The 35mm objective is too small. Also: There's no IR illuminator, which WILL be
useful on a boat in very dark conditions.
I'd pass. Add to that that it's used and you can spend on a better unit.

RB

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ??
 

Anyone had experience with the Tasco NV150L, the one that is "self powered"?
It is a gen 1 scope and really, really small.

The 35mm objective is too small. Also: There's no IR illuminator, which WILL be
useful on a boat in very dark conditions.
I'd pass. Add to that that it's used and you can spend on a better unit.

RB

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

"rick" wrote in message
...
On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

OH GEEZ where is my dictionary?

The point is that these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

"rick" wrote in message
...
On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

OH GEEZ where is my dictionary?

The point is that these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick


Thanks, Rick! Well said!

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick


Thanks, Rick! Well said!

RB

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

some one spent their cruising money on their vocabulary.

Just wondering, If people have to use a dictionary to understand your meaning,
doesn't that defeat the purpose of your rehtoric?

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

some one spent their cruising money on their vocabulary.

Just wondering, If people have to use a dictionary to understand your meaning,
doesn't that defeat the purpose of your rehtoric?

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

Night vision monocular - cheap ones ?? RANT
 

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

I think they buy in high quantity and don't mark up too much. I have
several of their tools (90 wire welder $99 for example) and find their
products to be quite good. Plus I suspect that since these items are made
in Russia they buy directly from the manufacturer for a reduced rate and
import it themselves while the other venders mark-up and probably buy from
other importers.

good luck,
mark