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Bill Bradley November 17th 03 03:34 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

Bill



Leanne November 17th 03 03:54 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 

"Bill Bradley" wrote in message
...
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?


Bill,

Look up designs by Jay Benford and you will see a couple of crusiers
that show a car on the foredeck in the cargo area. The olny problem I see is
how are going to off load it when most docks in the south are narrow floating
type. Up in New England where they have the fixed piers you can go alongside.

Leanne Bradley - No relation, I think
S/V Fundy



Leanne November 17th 03 03:54 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 

"Bill Bradley" wrote in message
...
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?


Bill,

Look up designs by Jay Benford and you will see a couple of crusiers
that show a car on the foredeck in the cargo area. The olny problem I see is
how are going to off load it when most docks in the south are narrow floating
type. Up in New England where they have the fixed piers you can go alongside.

Leanne Bradley - No relation, I think
S/V Fundy



Doug Dotson November 17th 03 03:55 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
I have a freind that drives a Jeep onto his foredeck. His cruising
boat is a refitted tug that he and his wife run from the Great Lakes
down to FL. 7' draft limits things a bit but it is a pretty comfortable
and capable boat.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Bill Bradley" wrote in message
...
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

Bill





Doug Dotson November 17th 03 03:55 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
I have a freind that drives a Jeep onto his foredeck. His cruising
boat is a refitted tug that he and his wife run from the Great Lakes
down to FL. 7' draft limits things a bit but it is a pretty comfortable
and capable boat.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Bill Bradley" wrote in message
...
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

Bill





Steve November 17th 03 04:34 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Look into Jay Benfords "Little Ships"..

More of a coffee table book for the dreaming couch potatoe.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Steve November 17th 03 04:34 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Look into Jay Benfords "Little Ships"..

More of a coffee table book for the dreaming couch potatoe.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Steve November 17th 03 04:53 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
While I was 'day dreaming' and looking at Jay's "Little Ships" I noted that
he had a big hydraulic crane on the foredeck.

I guess that with the shallow bow draft, a skipper could bring the bow into
a launch ramp and set the car/jeep off in the very shallow water.

Myself, I have been carring a moutain bike around, lashed to the rigging..
However I am concerned when I have to haul it around in the inflatable.
Afraid that something pertruding might punture the dingy.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve November 17th 03 04:53 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
While I was 'day dreaming' and looking at Jay's "Little Ships" I noted that
he had a big hydraulic crane on the foredeck.

I guess that with the shallow bow draft, a skipper could bring the bow into
a launch ramp and set the car/jeep off in the very shallow water.

Myself, I have been carring a moutain bike around, lashed to the rigging..
However I am concerned when I have to haul it around in the inflatable.
Afraid that something pertruding might punture the dingy.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Don W November 17th 03 04:56 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Bill,

I think the problem is not so much carrying the car (if you have a
large enough boat). The problem is how your car is going to react
to months of salt spray and intense sunshine.

Some friends of ours took their bicycles crusing, and because of
space considerations on their Hunter 38, ended up lashing them to
the deck along with their dinghy. The bicycles were so hopelessly
rusted after a few weeks that they ended up heaving them overboard.
At least that is the way that I remember the story ;-).

YMMV,

Don W.

Bill Bradley wrote:
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

Bill




Don W November 17th 03 04:56 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Bill,

I think the problem is not so much carrying the car (if you have a
large enough boat). The problem is how your car is going to react
to months of salt spray and intense sunshine.

Some friends of ours took their bicycles crusing, and because of
space considerations on their Hunter 38, ended up lashing them to
the deck along with their dinghy. The bicycles were so hopelessly
rusted after a few weeks that they ended up heaving them overboard.
At least that is the way that I remember the story ;-).

YMMV,

Don W.

Bill Bradley wrote:
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

Bill




Florida Keyz November 17th 03 04:13 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Florida Coasters, if they are still in business, make such a trawler.

Sterling
www.CaptainSterling.com

Florida Keyz November 17th 03 04:13 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Florida Coasters, if they are still in business, make such a trawler.

Sterling
www.CaptainSterling.com

Dick November 17th 03 04:16 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?



I saw a big powerboat in Cabo San Lucas once that had two boats in a well deck
(I think that is what you would call it) in the stern of the boat. There was a
crane to left them out. The small one was a 20 foot sportfisher. You could do
this and have one as your car and the other as a landing craft to put in in a
the boat ramp. Or just leave the car in the landing craft. Or you could put it
out on deck where the helicopter goes.

Dick

Dick November 17th 03 04:16 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?



I saw a big powerboat in Cabo San Lucas once that had two boats in a well deck
(I think that is what you would call it) in the stern of the boat. There was a
crane to left them out. The small one was a 20 foot sportfisher. You could do
this and have one as your car and the other as a landing craft to put in in a
the boat ramp. Or just leave the car in the landing craft. Or you could put it
out on deck where the helicopter goes.

Dick

Armond Perretta November 17th 03 04:42 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Florida Keyz wrote:
Florida Coasters, if they are still in business, make such a
trawler.


I seem to recall that these are one of the Jay Benford designs already
mentioned. I have bumped into a few of these small ships. They had a sort
of crane on the foredeck on the starboard side, and the device could lift a
jeep-like vehicle on and off the boat.

I really like the idea of traveling on a ship such as this, (though I never
got the chance). Looking at these behemoths gives one the impression that
"coaster" is about the safe limit, with perhaps "inland coaster" a better
and more conservative description.

Incidentally I believe the descendants (nautically anyway) of one of the
original ICW explorers, Slade Dale of Bay Head NJ, have actively cruised the
ICW in such a boat. The first time I met them they were on Slade's old
boat. Later they showed up with one of the Florida Coasters. For those who
get the reference, these folks were most certainly from Bay Head, with all
the attendant implications.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com












Armond Perretta November 17th 03 04:42 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Florida Keyz wrote:
Florida Coasters, if they are still in business, make such a
trawler.


I seem to recall that these are one of the Jay Benford designs already
mentioned. I have bumped into a few of these small ships. They had a sort
of crane on the foredeck on the starboard side, and the device could lift a
jeep-like vehicle on and off the boat.

I really like the idea of traveling on a ship such as this, (though I never
got the chance). Looking at these behemoths gives one the impression that
"coaster" is about the safe limit, with perhaps "inland coaster" a better
and more conservative description.

Incidentally I believe the descendants (nautically anyway) of one of the
original ICW explorers, Slade Dale of Bay Head NJ, have actively cruised the
ICW in such a boat. The first time I met them they were on Slade's old
boat. Later they showed up with one of the Florida Coasters. For those who
get the reference, these folks were most certainly from Bay Head, with all
the attendant implications.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com












Steve Goldfarb November 17th 03 04:56 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
I'm sure this is a ridiculous idea for many reasons, but a picture that
popped into my head is a vessel with a ramp at the back where you can
drive your Mini Cooper onboard, where it becomes your power source
underway. Maybe you have to remove a tire - maybe you use some sort of
pulley system like when they test your emissions. Perhaps you could even
set up some sort of "remote control" via the engine electronics. Don't
know what you'd do about shifting - maybe use reverse gear?

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Steve Goldfarb November 17th 03 04:56 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
I'm sure this is a ridiculous idea for many reasons, but a picture that
popped into my head is a vessel with a ramp at the back where you can
drive your Mini Cooper onboard, where it becomes your power source
underway. Maybe you have to remove a tire - maybe you use some sort of
pulley system like when they test your emissions. Perhaps you could even
set up some sort of "remote control" via the engine electronics. Don't
know what you'd do about shifting - maybe use reverse gear?

--sg

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Jere Lull November 18th 03 04:40 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Jere Lull November 18th 03 04:40 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Paul November 18th 03 01:24 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.

There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm



"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/




Paul November 18th 03 01:24 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.

There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm



"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/




Steve Goldfarb November 18th 03 01:33 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
In gers.com "Paul" writes:

Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.


There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm


Rather than a car that can take to the sea, wouldn't it be more fun to
have a sailboat that can take to land? :-) -- how fun would that be,
cruising our nation's highways under sail? (tacking within your lane would
be tricky, I suspect...)

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Steve Goldfarb November 18th 03 01:33 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
In gers.com "Paul" writes:

Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.


There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm


Rather than a car that can take to the sea, wouldn't it be more fun to
have a sailboat that can take to land? :-) -- how fun would that be,
cruising our nation's highways under sail? (tacking within your lane would
be tricky, I suspect...)

--sg
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Terry Spragg November 21st 03 02:24 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 


Paul wrote:

Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.


With a ramp on the stern, a long reverse sloped transom, you
could just drive onto the boat! One question: How do these
amphicars do when launched in reverse?

Terry K

There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


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Terry Spragg November 21st 03 02:24 PM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 


Paul wrote:

Perhaps what is needed is one of those amphibious cars.


With a ramp on the stern, a long reverse sloped transom, you
could just drive onto the boat! One question: How do these
amphicars do when launched in reverse?

Terry K

There's a new version out too:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3077508.stm

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
Bill Bradley wrote:

Has anyone (outside of Navy Landing Craft) designed a cruising style boat
that will carry a car?

RV'er haul their cars, why not cruisers?

The nautical equivalent is the dink.

I think it'd be more economical in the long run to rent a car when the
mood struck. Most of the time, the things we want to see are within
walking distance or a taxi ride of where we can land the dink. The car
would definitely use space we could use more effectively.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


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copyright legislation. Permission to reproduce it is
specifically denied for mass mailing and unrequested
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Michael Davis December 8th 03 05:01 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Hi,
I have seen a few boats with cars on board. Talking with owners it seemed
more a hassle than useful. Problems noted were the need for a dock that can
be driven on, NOT the local marina dock. Rust in abunance. Problems with
license and insurance. Most were unworkable, nice in therory but not
pratical. That said, a few have caught my interest. One of the coaster
steel mini ships had a ex military jeep stored forward with a big long crane
mounted on the foredeck. Nose the ship onto the beach, pickup the jeep and
swing it over the bow. The jeep had the snorkel and all that waterproof
equipment and could I think drive in 4-5 feet of water. Landing craft is
useable, saw one with not only a truck on it but a travel trailer. Traval
trailer was used as the living quarters and could be driven off the craft
and tour the land. Might be a idea using a motorhome instead. Of course
there are a few amphibious cars aroung, like the Sunbeam and Dutton. I
liked the one that Popular Science had list a few years back.

I have wondered if a cross between a boat, car, and hovercraft would work.
DMV is not ready to have a straight hovercraft used on city streets so it
would have to have a car mode. Hovercraft mode to get from land to the
boat. And of crourse it would have to float if the engine died. If you were
to start with a Scat hovercraft just how hard would it be to make a useable
car out of it?

I have also wondered about flying dingies. Everyone has seen the one
advertised, a cross between a ultralight aircraft and a RIB inflateable.
Mine is a little different. Mate a Apex 9' Lite RIB and a Benson
gyrocopter. Two place with a lot more power and range. And a lot more
safer. On paper everything looks workable, weights, balance, stress, all
within acceptable ranges. Now if I just have the place and time to put it
together.

Mike



Michael Davis December 8th 03 05:01 AM

Taking Your Car Cruising
 
Hi,
I have seen a few boats with cars on board. Talking with owners it seemed
more a hassle than useful. Problems noted were the need for a dock that can
be driven on, NOT the local marina dock. Rust in abunance. Problems with
license and insurance. Most were unworkable, nice in therory but not
pratical. That said, a few have caught my interest. One of the coaster
steel mini ships had a ex military jeep stored forward with a big long crane
mounted on the foredeck. Nose the ship onto the beach, pickup the jeep and
swing it over the bow. The jeep had the snorkel and all that waterproof
equipment and could I think drive in 4-5 feet of water. Landing craft is
useable, saw one with not only a truck on it but a travel trailer. Traval
trailer was used as the living quarters and could be driven off the craft
and tour the land. Might be a idea using a motorhome instead. Of course
there are a few amphibious cars aroung, like the Sunbeam and Dutton. I
liked the one that Popular Science had list a few years back.

I have wondered if a cross between a boat, car, and hovercraft would work.
DMV is not ready to have a straight hovercraft used on city streets so it
would have to have a car mode. Hovercraft mode to get from land to the
boat. And of crourse it would have to float if the engine died. If you were
to start with a Scat hovercraft just how hard would it be to make a useable
car out of it?

I have also wondered about flying dingies. Everyone has seen the one
advertised, a cross between a ultralight aircraft and a RIB inflateable.
Mine is a little different. Mate a Apex 9' Lite RIB and a Benson
gyrocopter. Two place with a lot more power and range. And a lot more
safer. On paper everything looks workable, weights, balance, stress, all
within acceptable ranges. Now if I just have the place and time to put it
together.

Mike




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