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Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take
on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:zjL7i.9938$eO5.8292@trndny08... I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. I would start by looking at my boat's systems and determining what it would require to work on them. |
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On May 31, 9:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. Which one? Mechanical, electrical, plumbing, or deck tool box? Joe |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et... "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:zjL7i.9938$eO5.8292@trndny08... I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. I would start by looking at my boat's systems and determining what it would require to work on them. Definitely a good idea. The basic sort of things are, of course, well... basic. I carry a ClampTite tool used for making impromptu hose clams. Vice-grips are good to have, as well as an assortment of small screwdrivers. I carry a wire crimp tool, and hand-twist wire caps of various sizes. I also carry some tape called Rescue Tape. It's self-bonding, permanent, and water proof. Found that and the ClampTite at the Strictly Sail show in Oakland. Some things are specialized, which are determined by the boat systems. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On May 31, 4:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. How far from civilization are you heading? What kind of systems does your boat have? How long have you had the boat? I ask the last because I've found that tools tend to accumulate on boats as the years go by and the problem becomes which ones to remove rather than which to add. On my boat I don't carry a box as such since I have a work bench and have four cupboards and two drawers dedicated to tools... I've got another three bins just for spare parts... But when day sailing on a dingy I don't take any tools and a Leatherman Wave (tm) and some tape is all you need for a weekend on the typical keeler... Add some rags and some decent marine grease a hacksaw and hammer a large screw driver and a couple of wrenches for basic mechanical stuff. A bit of sail tape, some whipping thread and a couple of sail needles for whipping and sewing wayward cleats and such back on your sails takes care of the basic boat specific stuff. A soldering iron some electrical solder a crimping tool and collection of crimps and some assorted wire will do the electrical. -- Tom. |
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Duct tape and WD-40.
If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. |
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Several years ago I made a list of tools and spares to be carried on board.
The list is old, 4 pages long and not completed. The format used is Word doc. It needs to be reviewed and updated. If someone wants a copy let me know. In return I would appreciate any feedback to improve the list. "Keith" wrote in message ups.com... Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. |
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NE Sailboat wrote:
I was taking a look at my tool box today and trying to decide what to take on board. If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. Statistics show that 93% of all pleasure boat repairs arise from connections, hoses, pipes, wires, etc. I made that number up of course, but if you've cruised much, it may ring true for you. In addition to tools to deal with the above, the next category is tools to deal with routine maintenance: filters, lubricants, etc. The final category might be tools for repairs to canvas, boat hull, teak, rigging, etc. Gets much tougher. But the Zen enters when grappling with whether to pack tools needed for major repairs. If carrying spare parts for the engine, tools to install them would be appropriate. I always thought the more difficult question was what spares to pack. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:zjL7i.9938$eO5.8292
@trndny08: If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. Which tool box? There's the plumbing tool box, the sailmaker's tool box, the electrical/electronics tool box, the carpenter's tool box, the diesel tool box, and one that appeared left by someone who once was hired to work on the boat but we can't find him and his tools are too good to toss tool box. Contents vary, of course. The electrical tool box doesn't have any sail cloth or needles in it. Trying to carry it all in one tool box would be absurd. The box would be too big to stuff into the crannies and too hard to find that one hooked needle you need buried in the pipe wrenches and electrical wiring tools. It's much better to use small tool boxes that stow much easier in available space and are much easier to handle in the confined spaces. Besides, I don't want ANY of his wrenches he's used on the head anywhere NEAR my digital multimeters! PU! Larry -- Warning - South Carolina's sales tax went up ANOTHER 1% today, so that rich people with big houses could get reduced taxes. |
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oups.com: I ask the last because I've found that tools tend to accumulate on boats as the years go by and the problem becomes which ones to remove rather than which to add. Hee hee....Cap'n Geoffrey loves his tools. There's a little mark near the waterline on both sides of the hull. When the water comes up to the mark, we all meet to decide which "stuff", including heavy tools, are to be jettisoned to the dock box (or Geoffrey's stuffed pickup truck which SHOULD have a similar water mark but doesn't). We usually pry them out of his grip to get them overboard and make the boat regain some speed. I told him he needs a towed barge for the "ship shop" we can send on ahead to the next port-of-call. "Why do we need wood lathe tools on a sailboat with no lathe?", I query. You can see his eyebrows perk up trying to decide where the lathe will be stowed and how to use it in the center cockpit...(c; Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll just buy a little one...this time. Larry -- Lucky for me electronics tools are small and don't weigh much, usually exempting them from the decisions...(c; |
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You know Larry { who hates old people and will end up in a nursing home
****ting in his pants } You make a good point. Rather than one tool box, I will carry three small ones for different issues. Electrical ,, Plumbing ,, general ,, ps: boat just came in the other day. thing is bigger than the Titanic. Captain is 86. His wife is 17! ================== "Larry" wrote in message ... "NE Sailboat" wrote in news:zjL7i.9938$eO5.8292 @trndny08: If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. Which tool box? There's the plumbing tool box, the sailmaker's tool box, the electrical/electronics tool box, the carpenter's tool box, the diesel tool box, and one that appeared left by someone who once was hired to work on the boat but we can't find him and his tools are too good to toss tool box. Contents vary, of course. The electrical tool box doesn't have any sail cloth or needles in it. Trying to carry it all in one tool box would be absurd. The box would be too big to stuff into the crannies and too hard to find that one hooked needle you need buried in the pipe wrenches and electrical wiring tools. It's much better to use small tool boxes that stow much easier in available space and are much easier to handle in the confined spaces. Besides, I don't want ANY of his wrenches he's used on the head anywhere NEAR my digital multimeters! PU! Larry -- Warning - South Carolina's sales tax went up ANOTHER 1% today, so that rich people with big houses could get reduced taxes. |
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"Keith" wrote in message
ups.com... Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. Not WD-40.. use something that lubricates and prevents rust. 40 doesn't lubricate... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
Read the MSDS, Jon. It's about 30% petroleum oil. It is light weight oil, so it may not be a superior long term lubricant, but it sure is a useful short term lubricant. It also protectes againt rust pretty effectively. There are several things it should not be used on, like bearings, or anything that maintains a greased lubrication. Sewing machine oil and electric motor oil are far better lubricants for moving parts. Like all multi-purpose, multi-function products, it may not do anything better than single-purpose products. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Jun 1, 10:17 am, wrote:
Several years ago I made a list of tools and spares to be carried on board. The list is old, 4 pages long and not completed. The format used is Word doc. It needs to be reviewed and updated. If someone wants a copy let me know. In return I would appreciate any feedback to improve the list. Paste it in! 4 pages ain't gonna fill up the web... |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:17:08 -0400, Chuck wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: Read the MSDS, Jon. It's about 30% petroleum oil. It is light weight oil, so it may not be a superior long term lubricant, but it sure is a useful short term lubricant. It also protectes againt rust pretty effectively. There are several things it should not be used on, like bearings, or anything that maintains a greased lubrication. Sewing machine oil and electric motor oil are far better lubricants for moving parts. Like all multi-purpose, multi-function products, it may not do anything better than single-purpose products. Chuck I don't think I said anything that disagrees with that, Chuck. Sewing machine oil is a poor choice if you use it for the wrong applications, too. WD-40 has plenty of applications where it is a better choice than sewing machine oil or electric motor oil. In fact, the WD40 company realizes this, and also markets sewing machine oil and electric motor oil under it's 3-IN-ONE brand. CWM Personally, and readily admitting to be a dilettante on the subject, I use dry lubricants (McLube) on most exposed-to-weather surfaces that want lubrication, rarely using WD-40 although I seem to always have several cans on hand. I can't think of any application where I use light oil -- mostly it's dry lube or one grease or another, depending upon the device. |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:17:08 -0400, Chuck wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: I don't think I said anything that disagrees with that, Chuck. Sewing machine oil is a poor choice if you use it for the wrong applications, too. Agreed. I was addressing the perception that WD-40 is a wonder product good for just about anything. Some folks even rub in on their hands presumably to alleviate arthritis. Not recommended. WD-40 has plenty of applications where it is a better choice than sewing machine oil or electric motor oil. In fact, the WD40 company realizes this, and also markets sewing machine oil and electric motor oil under it's 3-IN-ONE brand. Not sure I understand the second sentence, but the 3-in-one Household Oil found everywhere is NOT very good when used as a sewing machine oil or an electric motor oil. There is a 3-in-one Electric Motor Oil that is fine. AFIK, there is no sewing machine oil marketed under the 3-in-one brand. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:T_U7i.5$Gy4.2@trndny08:
His wife is 17! I wouldn't go anywhere near that boat, especially to sea! That jealous ******* may throw you to the sharks if SHE takes a liking to you! No thanks.... Larry -- Warning - South Carolina's sales tax went up ANOTHER 1% today, so that rich people with big houses could get reduced taxes. |
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"tlindly" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 1, 10:17 am, wrote: Several years ago I made a list of tools and spares to be carried on board. The list is old, 4 pages long and not completed. The format used is Word doc. It needs to be reviewed and updated. If someone wants a copy let me know. In return I would appreciate any feedback to improve the list. Paste it in! 4 pages ain't gonna fill up the web.. Here is the pasted list. It may not have copied in its entirety? Tools and Spare Parts Description Size Quantity Location Allen Wrenches Chisels (cold) Cordless Drill Set of drill bits File: ******* 8" Rattail Triangular Hammer ballpeen Mallet Measuring: Tape Caliper Venier Oil Stone Pliers: Groove joint Long Nose Bent Nose Lineman Diagonal Cutter Slip Joint Vise Grip Mirror (retrieving) Putty Knifes Bolt Cutter Pipe Cutter Hacksaw Blade Screwdrivers: Flat Jewellers set Robertson Phillip Tin snips Torch kit Tap and Die Set 8-32 10-24 10-32 1/4-20 5/16-24 3/8-16 3/8-24 Utility Knives Vise Clamps Wire Bushes Wrenches: Adjustable Pipe Open set Strap Work gloves Glue: Two parts Epoxy Glooze it Sealers: Silicone Lubricants W40 Silicone Spray Grease Electrical Running light bulbs Spare bulbs for lights Fuses Wire crimps Wire stripper crimpers Assorted size of wire Flashlight batterier Flashlight bulbs Electrical tape Silicone grease Multimeter Solder/Paste Soldering iron Sail Repair Kit Scissor Sailmaker's wax Palm Seam rippers Hot knive and tips Light thread Spool waxed Polyester Needle #13,15,17 & 19 Repair Tape Stickback Dacron Weights seizing wire D or O rings Tubular webbing Sailmaker plier Weight Sailcloth Dacron/Terylene Awls Grommet Set/Mallet Rigging Nicro press tool Nicro press sleeves SS thimbles Snap shackles Weight wire Rigging toggles Clevis pins Track cars Plate Set Main Halyar Genoa Halyard Turnbuckles Engine and Mechanical Transmission fluid Engine oil Filters Voltage regulator Engine belt Hose clamps Water pump Impeller Packing (flax) Spares Cotter pins SS nuts and bolts Head repair kit Galley pump repair kit Winch Parts Pawls Pawl spring Roller bearing Split rings Toothbrush Dental pick Extra Handle |
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wrote in message ... "tlindly" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 1, 10:17 am, wrote: Several years ago I made a list of tools and spares to be carried on board. The list is old, 4 pages long and not completed. The format used is Word doc. It needs to be reviewed and updated. If someone wants a copy let me know. In return I would appreciate any feedback to improve the list. Paste it in! 4 pages ain't gonna fill up the web.. Here is the pasted list. It may not have copied in its entirety? Tools and Spare Parts Description Size Quantity Location Allen Wrenches Chisels (cold) Cordless Drill Set of drill bits File: ******* 8" Rattail Triangular Hammer ballpeen Mallet Measuring: Tape Caliper Venier Oil Stone Pliers: Groove joint Long Nose Bent Nose Lineman Diagonal Cutter Slip Joint Vise Grip Mirror (retrieving) Putty Knifes Bolt Cutter Pipe Cutter Hacksaw Blade Screwdrivers: Flat Jewellers set Robertson Phillip Tin snips Torch kit Tap and Die Set 8-32 10-24 10-32 1/4-20 5/16-24 3/8-16 3/8-24 Utility Knives Vise Clamps Wire Bushes Wrenches: Adjustable Pipe Open set Strap Work gloves Glue: Two parts Epoxy Glooze it Sealers: Silicone Lubricants W40 Silicone Spray Grease Electrical Running light bulbs Spare bulbs for lights Fuses Wire crimps Wire stripper crimpers Assorted size of wire Flashlight batterier Flashlight bulbs Electrical tape Silicone grease Multimeter Solder/Paste Soldering iron Sail Repair Kit Scissor Sailmaker's wax Palm Seam rippers Hot knive and tips Light thread Spool waxed Polyester Needle #13,15,17 & 19 Repair Tape Stickback Dacron Weights seizing wire D or O rings Tubular webbing Sailmaker plier Weight Sailcloth Dacron/Terylene Awls Grommet Set/Mallet Rigging Nicro press tool Nicro press sleeves SS thimbles Snap shackles Weight wire Rigging toggles Clevis pins Track cars Plate Set Main Halyar Genoa Halyard Turnbuckles Engine and Mechanical Transmission fluid Engine oil Filters Voltage regulator Engine belt Hose clamps Water pump Impeller Packing (flax) Spares Cotter pins SS nuts and bolts Head repair kit Galley pump repair kit Winch Parts Pawls Pawl spring Roller bearing Split rings Toothbrush Dental pick Extra Handle The pasted list did come out good. Still if someone wants a proper tabled copy let me know. |
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Larry wrote:
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:T_U7i.5$Gy4.2@trndny08: His wife is 17! I wouldn't go anywhere near that boat, especially to sea! That jealous ******* may throw you to the sharks if SHE takes a liking to you! No thanks.... Larry Coward! It's a dangerous job, but somebody has to do it... |
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cavelamb himself wrote in news:aa18i.15809
: Coward! It's a dangerous job, but somebody has to do it... What if she gets pregnant and the baby does NOT look like a Columbian Drug Lord?? What then? Suicide??...(c; Larry -- Warning - South Carolina's sales tax went up ANOTHER 1% today, so that rich people with big houses could get reduced taxes. |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:17:37 -0400, Charlie Morgan
wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:05:26 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Keith" wrote in message roups.com... Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. Not WD-40.. use something that lubricates and prevents rust. 40 doesn't lubricate... Read the MSDS, Jon. It's about 30% petroleum oil. It is light weight oil, so it may not be a superior long term lubricant, but it sure is a useful short term lubricant. It also protectes againt rust pretty effectively. CWM It might be "light weight oil" but it certainly is not a long term lubricant. I've got some router cutters stored in a "tupper ware" container. To prevent rust I sprayed them liberally with WD-40. Some six months later I opened the container and not a sign of oil. However, the cutters were covered with a brown sticky coating and hadn't rusted :-) WD-40 seems to work best as a penetrating oil to free up stuck stuff. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeatgmaildotcom) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:57:43 +0000, Larry wrote:
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:T_U7i.5$Gy4.2@trndny08: His wife is 17! I wouldn't go anywhere near that boat, especially to sea! That jealous ******* may throw you to the sharks if SHE takes a liking to you! No thanks.... Larry One thing you do have to admit. He is certainly an optimist. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeatgmaildotcom) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:26:05 +0700, Bruce
wrote: It might be "light weight oil" but it certainly is not a long term lubricant. I've got some router cutters stored in a "tupper ware" container. To prevent rust I sprayed them liberally with WD-40. Some six months later I opened the container and not a sign of oil. However, the cutters were covered with a brown sticky coating and hadn't rusted :-) WD-40 seems to work best as a penetrating oil to free up stuck stuff. It's pretty useless in my experience. Doesn't do anything well. The Mac26M of "oil"? I would keep and use a small pump can of 10-40W engine oil and a rag to wipe off excess as an "all-purpose oil" instead of WD40. People use WD40 because it sprays out of a can and they can easily keep their hands clean. That the only reason I know of at least. Not too hard to get and store the proper lubricant for each application. --Vic |
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Bruce wrote in
: One thing you do have to admit. He is certainly an optimist. There's another reason not to sail with him! I don't want to sail with someone with impossible goals, which may cause him to sail into that storm and kill everyone aboard.... Larry -- If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:04:14 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:26:05 +0700, Bruce wrote: Read the MSDS, Jon. It's about 30% petroleum oil. It is light weight oil, so it may not be a superior long term lubricant, but it sure is a useful short term lubricant. It also protectes againt rust pretty effectively. CWM It might be "light weight oil" but it certainly is not a long term lubricant. Did you bother to read what I wrote before replying? CWM Sure did and just for you I'll rephrase my starement: It might be "light weight oil" but it certainly is a lousy lubricant. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeatgmaildotcom) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
:Well, that's your problem in a nutshell. Stop thinking of what it can't do, and :try concentrating on what it CAN do. Before the introduction of WD40, master :mechanics found kerosene to be very handy around the shop for a variety of :tasks. WD40 is very similar to kerosene in it's abilities. WD40 is kerosene. It just comes in handy spray can. It's mediocre, at best, at everything people use it for. |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
:On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:51:37 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt :wrote: :Charlie Morgan wrote: : ::Well, that's your problem in a nutshell. Stop thinking of what it can't do, and ::try concentrating on what it CAN do. Before the introduction of WD40, master ::mechanics found kerosene to be very handy around the shop for a variety of ::tasks. WD40 is very similar to kerosene in it's abilities. : :WD40 is kerosene. It just comes in handy spray can. It's mediocre, :at best, at everything people use it for. :Well, you started out wrong, and that's where you stayed. There is ZERO kerosene :in WD40. Don't let the facts bother you. Its MSDS says WD40 is a 50% mixture of CAS 64742-47-8 (commonly called "Deodorized kerosene"), CAS 64742-48-9 (mineral spirits), CAS 64742-88-7 ("Straight run kerosene"); 15-25% CAS 64742-65-0 (dewaxed heavy paraffinic solvent); and an additional 12-18% of CAS 6742-47-8, the aforementioned deodorized kerosene. Sounds like kerosene to me. That's a change from the last time I looked at the MSDS (several years ago), when it was roughly 70% stoddard solvent, which is an aliphatic mineral spirit with a boiling point range entirely contained by kerosene's. David |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
So, show us the word kerosene on that legally vetted document. I can say that milk is kerosene, but that doesn't make it so. Ok, but this is not rocket science. Go to Google and enter "CAS 64742-47-8". The first hit I get is the Center for Disease Control site, who call it "Low odor paraffinic solvent Dearomatized kerosine Deodorized kerosine. Doesn't say anything about milk. Chuck You can go there directly: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html ICSC:NENG1379 International Chemical Safety Cards (WHO/IPCS/ILO) | CDC/NIOSH ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
:On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:38:36 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt :wrote: :Charlie Morgan wrote: ::On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:51:37 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt ::wrote: : ::Charlie Morgan wrote: :: :::Well, that's your problem in a nutshell. Stop thinking of what it can't do, and :::try concentrating on what it CAN do. Before the introduction of WD40, master :::mechanics found kerosene to be very handy around the shop for a variety of :::tasks. WD40 is very similar to kerosene in it's abilities. :: ::WD40 is kerosene. It just comes in handy spray can. It's mediocre, ::at best, at everything people use it for. : ::Well, you started out wrong, and that's where you stayed. There is ZERO kerosene ::in WD40. : :Don't let the facts bother you. Its MSDS says WD40 is a 50% mixture of :CAS 64742-47-8 (commonly called "Deodorized kerosene"), CAS 64742-48-9 :(mineral spirits), CAS 64742-88-7 ("Straight run kerosene"); 15-25% :CAS 64742-65-0 (dewaxed heavy paraffinic solvent); and an additional :12-18% of CAS 6742-47-8, the aforementioned deodorized kerosene. :Sounds like kerosene to me. That's a change from the last time I :looked at the MSDS (several years ago), when it was roughly 70% :stoddard solvent, which is an aliphatic mineral spirit with a boiling :point range entirely contained by kerosene's. : :David :So, show us the word kerosene on that legally vetted document. I can say that :milk is kerosene, but that doesn't make it so. Are you incapable of reading for comprehension? The MSDS says it's got kerosene in it. It calls it out by CAS number, because that's what MSDSes do. There are lots of different types of kerosene, WD40 has at least two different types. |
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"David Scheidt" wrote in message ... Charlie Morgan wrote: :On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:38:36 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt :wrote: :Charlie Morgan wrote: ::On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:51:37 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt ::wrote: : ::Charlie Morgan wrote: :: :::Well, that's your problem in a nutshell. Stop thinking of what it can't do, and :::try concentrating on what it CAN do. Before the introduction of WD40, master :::mechanics found kerosene to be very handy around the shop for a variety of :::tasks. WD40 is very similar to kerosene in it's abilities. :: ::WD40 is kerosene. It just comes in handy spray can. It's mediocre, ::at best, at everything people use it for. : ::Well, you started out wrong, and that's where you stayed. There is ZERO kerosene ::in WD40. : :Don't let the facts bother you. Its MSDS says WD40 is a 50% mixture of :CAS 64742-47-8 (commonly called "Deodorized kerosene"), CAS 64742-48-9 :(mineral spirits), CAS 64742-88-7 ("Straight run kerosene"); 15-25% :CAS 64742-65-0 (dewaxed heavy paraffinic solvent); and an additional :12-18% of CAS 6742-47-8, the aforementioned deodorized kerosene. :Sounds like kerosene to me. That's a change from the last time I :looked at the MSDS (several years ago), when it was roughly 70% :stoddard solvent, which is an aliphatic mineral spirit with a boiling :point range entirely contained by kerosene's. : :David :So, show us the word kerosene on that legally vetted document. I can say that :milk is kerosene, but that doesn't make it so. Are you incapable of reading for comprehension? The MSDS says it's got kerosene in it. It calls it out by CAS number, because that's what MSDSes do. There are lots of different types of kerosene, WD40 has at least two different types. FWIW, the official WD40 website insists that it does NOT contain kerosene. However, they may be playing word games. |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
If it's not rocket science, you will of course be able to show me an MSDS for WD40 with the word kerosene on it? Thanks! CWM Sorry. I misunderstood your question. I can answer it in two parts. The easy part is that if you look he http://www.wd40.com/Brands/pdfs/msds-wd40_bulk.us.pdf msds-wd40_bulk.us.pdf you will find the kerosene ingredient identified as CAS 64742-47-8, per my previous post. The more difficult part (that I don't pretend to understand) is that the aerosol WD40 has ingredients very different from those in the bulk WD40. There is no CAS 64742-47-8 listed in the aerosol MSDS! Maybe that's one source of confusion. So which is the real WD40? The legendary stuff? ps. Not that anybody but you gives a rat's ass anyway. Well, there's you and David and me at least. ;-) Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
Of course they are... and nobody other than a few pedantic idiots such as David cares one whit. Hey, I care! Maybe the website is referring to the aerosol? Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
KLC Lewis wrote:
FWIW, the official WD40 website insists that it does NOT contain kerosene. However, they may be playing word games. Amazing. They show photos of both bulk and aerosol product. The signature date on the bulk MSDS is 2007 so it can't be that they've changed their formula. I've emailed them requesting an explanation and will post their reply if and when it arrives. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:05:26 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Keith" wrote in message oups.com... Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. Not WD-40.. use something that lubricates and prevents rust. 40 doesn't lubricate... Boeshield T-9 spray seems to work well. Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
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Brian Whatcott wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:05:26 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Keith" wrote in message roups.com... Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. Not WD-40.. use something that lubricates and prevents rust. 40 doesn't lubricate... Boeshield T-9 spray seems to work well. Brian Whatcott Altus OK That's what I use. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
On 2007-06-01 05:49:44 -0400, Keith said:
Duct tape and WD-40. If it moves when it shouldn't, use the duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. Oh yea, and a very large hammer if the above fails. We just got some PB Blaster and the couple of jobs I've used it for make me a bit of a believer. WD-40 is fine for displacing water (WD=water displacing), but not much else. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
On 2007-06-01 07:51:56 -0400, Larry said:
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:zjL7i.9938$eO5.8292 @trndny08: If you carry a tool box, could you tell what tools go in the box. Which tool box? There's the plumbing tool box, the sailmaker's tool box, the electrical/electronics tool box, the carpenter's tool box, the diesel tool box, and one that appeared left by someone who once was hired to work on the boat but we can't find him and his tools are too good to toss tool box. That's my answer as well. Our first-line box, the little red one that came with the Yanmar is in the drawer next to the companionway, and can handle most quick jobs. Contains a 6-in-1 screwdriver/nutdriver, adjustable crescent, channel locks, wood chisel, allen wrench set, linesman pliers, the various open-ended wrenches Yanmar gave us, and a rigging knife. I just added an adjustable "socket wrench", but I'm not sure it's going to stay. The "auto-adjust" pliers went home the first time I tried to use them for real: Too little power. We have two other tool boxes and three "junk" boxes segregated by general duty, one of which is everything electrical. In a pinch, I believe I have the tools to repair/replace just anything on our simple boat. A couple of weekends ago, a rudder pintle broke. Not only did I have three ways to jury-rig a fix, but when we got a replacement set from the sailor's candy-store, Fawcetts in Annapolis, (I had the replacements in hand within 30 seconds of walking in the door!) I had the tools and parts to hand to properly mount them. In general, I chose tools that had multiple uses and were compact, though some aren't the "perfect" one as I don't, for instance, have a set of socket wrenches. They got removed when I didn't use them for 3 seasons. One of my more-used tools is a 12v B&D drill. I need to find the adapter that allows it to run off of the "cigarette lighter", but even on the battery pack, it's had more than enough strength to do everything but buff the hull. Our drill bits are advanced-tech (blue-something) and go through stainless like butter. Half inch holes in aluminum are child's play to that drill. Odd tool that may not be obvious: A "car" vacuum. Almost got a 12v wet-and-dry vac, but a sponge and 5 gallon pail works well enough for us for the wet work. Being able to suck up sanding or drilling "dust" is a nice luxury. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
Jere Lull wrote in news:200706180401538930-
jerelull@maccom: We have two other tool boxes and three "junk" boxes segregated by general duty, one of which is everything electrical. I think Lionheart can pull up on a sand bar in the middle of nowhere and do a complete refit...(c; Under those seats is a vast array of boxes marked: Sail Plumbing A/C Electrical Electronics (mine) Hull One whole compartment full of ENGINE parts half a compartment full of cables/wire All stores for the refit. I don't think we have a spare rudder. We have all the parts to overhaul the bearings, though. There's 6 boxes full of rusty tools. I asked him where he was going to install the wood lathe....(c; Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
Tool Box on board .. what goes in the box
On 2007-06-18 07:52:09 -0400, Larry said:
I think Lionheart can pull up on a sand bar in the middle of nowhere and do a complete refit...(c; We're not quite there -- yet -- but getting close, I think. I can't remember the last time I didn't have a needed tool onboard. I don't think we have a spare rudder. We do ;-) it's the pull-out shelf for the setee. Its rail would be the emergency tiller. -- Jere Lull Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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