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May 31st 07 03:02 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA



Wilbur Hubbard May 31st 07 03:54 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 

wrote in message
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I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color
for the hot and temperate climate.
TIA


Why not mauve? Sheeeesh!

There is only two acceptable colors for a boat. That's white or black
with blue trim. Therefore, get Pacific Blue Sunbrella. Save your "color
coordination" for your interior decorating at home....

Wilbur Hubbard


Rusty May 31st 07 07:46 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
I've had good luck with Sunbrella Cadet Gray in hot climates. Holds up well
and doesn't show dirt. It also looks good with white hardware like a painted
mast, steering pedestal, hatches and portholes.

Rusty O

wrote in message
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I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA




Rich Hampel June 3rd 07 10:53 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
Although the polyester fibers used in Sunbrella are quite stabile ...
the lighter the color the FASTER the degradation by UV.
The darker the color the longer the life in UV exposure (including
sails made of polyester dacron, etc.).

As regards 'thermal capacity' .... polyester doesnt have much 'heat
capacity' nor mass; so, it really doesnt matter what color your choose
as the amount/quantity of heat 'stored' in the Sunbrella (to
re-radiate/emit through the 'back side') isnt going to be very much
different.

I find darker colors are 'easier' on the eyes ... thats why baseball
caps have a dark green or black 'liner' under the visor.



In article ,
wrote:

I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA



June 4th 07 12:29 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 
That may re-enforce that fact that my 1982 dart bleu subrella main sail
cover has not faded away yet.
Only the stitches had to be re-done.
For my next boat we have selected a color named "Linen" for the dodger and
bimini.
We hope that the canvass will last several years before replacement.

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Although the polyester fibers used in Sunbrella are quite stabile ...
the lighter the color the FASTER the degradation by UV.
The darker the color the longer the life in UV exposure (including
sails made of polyester dacron, etc.).

As regards 'thermal capacity' .... polyester doesnt have much 'heat
capacity' nor mass; so, it really doesnt matter what color your choose
as the amount/quantity of heat 'stored' in the Sunbrella (to
re-radiate/emit through the 'back side') isnt going to be very much
different.

I find darker colors are 'easier' on the eyes ... thats why baseball
caps have a dark green or black 'liner' under the visor.



In article ,
wrote:

I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color
for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA





Wilbur Hubbard June 4th 07 12:41 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 

wrote in message
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That may re-enforce that fact that my 1982 dart bleu subrella main
sail cover has not faded away yet.
Only the stitches had to be re-done.
For my next boat we have selected a color named "Linen" for the dodger
and bimini.
We hope that the canvass will last several years before replacement.



It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a
Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick
with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


June 4th 07 01:10 AM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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That may re-enforce that fact that my 1982 dart bleu subrella main sail
cover has not faded away yet.
Only the stitches had to be re-done.
For my next boat we have selected a color named "Linen" for the dodger
and bimini.
We hope that the canvass will last several years before replacement.



It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a Home
Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick with
traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





KLC Lewis June 4th 07 03:05 AM

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wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a
Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick
with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





You really don't want to start following any advice given by Wilbur. He is a
dyed in the wool idiot and well-documented troll. Buy whatever suits your
fancy. It's YOUR boat. FWIW, light colors like "Linen" are perfectly
suitable for your purpose, and are no less "nautical" than blue, green or
red. If it pleases you to make your canvas in pink paisley, it nobody's
business but your own.



Wilbur Hubbard June 4th 07 04:20 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of
a Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time
stick with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor
boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





You really don't want to start following any advice given by Wilbur.
He is a dyed in the wool idiot and well-documented troll. Buy whatever
suits your fancy. It's YOUR boat. FWIW, light colors like "Linen" are
perfectly suitable for your purpose, and are no less "nautical" than
blue, green or red. If it pleases you to make your canvas in pink
paisley, it nobody's business but your own.


And what do you know? Nothing, absolutely nothing. You're almost as
uninformed as mariedj who can't even SPELL Sunbrella and whose major
concern is color. What does that tell you about him/her? Well it tells
me that the concern for color takes priority over everything else. In
other words, appearance over practicality. In other words, priorities
all out of whack. It's not a boat. It's some lamer's idea of a fashion
statement. Probably has a color-matched purse. Probably has
color-matched underwear. And it follows probably has no idea what's
important in a boat and probably thinks only about cosmetics. And that's
what it's going to say to any knowledgeable sailor in any port in the
world. "Hey, look at me! I don't have a clue and I look like it."

Wilbur Hubbard


Bruce June 4th 07 12:37 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:05:55 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...
It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a
Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick
with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





You really don't want to start following any advice given by Wilbur. He is a
dyed in the wool idiot and well-documented troll. Buy whatever suits your
fancy. It's YOUR boat. FWIW, light colors like "Linen" are perfectly
suitable for your purpose, and are no less "nautical" than blue, green or
red. If it pleases you to make your canvas in pink paisley, it nobody's
business but your own.


Just to clear the air, the traditional color for awnings was always
white.

From the days of sailing ships right up to sometime after ww-II when
the unwashed hordes took up "boating" the traditional awning was
bleached cotton canvas -- white that is.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

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June 4th 07 12:49 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...
It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a
Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick
with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard

Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





You really don't want to start following any advice given by Wilbur. He
is a dyed in the wool idiot and well-documented troll. Buy whatever suits
your fancy. It's YOUR boat. FWIW, light colors like "Linen" are perfectly
suitable for your purpose, and are no less "nautical" than blue, green or
red. If it pleases you to make your canvas in pink paisley, it nobody's
business but your own.


And what do you know? Nothing, absolutely nothing. You're almost as
uninformed as mariedj who can't even SPELL Sunbrella and whose major
concern is color. What does that tell you about him/her? Well it tells me
that the concern for color takes priority over everything else. In other
words, appearance over practicality. In other words, priorities all out of
whack. It's not a boat. It's some lamer's idea of a fashion statement.
Probably has a color-matched purse. Probably has color-matched underwear.
And it follows probably has no idea what's important in a boat and
probably thinks only about cosmetics. And that's what it's going to say to
any knowledgeable sailor in any port in the world. "Hey, look at me! I
don't have a clue and I look like it."

Wilbur Hubbard


Quote: Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice. Unquote

You have not made any statement to validate the advantages of using the
traditional dart colors.
I wonder if you can?







Bruce June 4th 07 01:06 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:05:55 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...
It'll last but while it lasts it'll also look like something out of a
Home Decorating magazine. Poor choice for a sailboat. Next time stick
with traditional colors. Leave the pansy colors for the motor boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
You stated "Poor choice for a sailboat"
Conversely what makes the traditional dart colors a better choice.





You really don't want to start following any advice given by Wilbur. He is a
dyed in the wool idiot and well-documented troll. Buy whatever suits your
fancy. It's YOUR boat. FWIW, light colors like "Linen" are perfectly
suitable for your purpose, and are no less "nautical" than blue, green or
red. If it pleases you to make your canvas in pink paisley, it nobody's
business but your own.


Just to clear the air, the traditional color for awnings was always
white.

From the days of sailing ships right up to sometime after ww-II when
the unwashed hordes took up "boating" the traditional awning was
bleached cotton canvas -- white that is.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


KLC Lewis June 6th 07 03:04 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...

Just to clear the air, the traditional color for awnings was always
white.

From the days of sailing ships right up to sometime after ww-II when
the unwashed hordes took up "boating" the traditional awning was
bleached cotton canvas -- white that is.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)


Very true. Essie had white Sunbrella canvas when I bought her, 6 years ago.
I went to dark green as a "fashion statement," in part -- I thought it
looked better and accented the green cove stripe. Also, it looks clean even
when it's not -- which is not true of the white.



Bruce June 6th 07 09:31 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 21:04:46 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .

Just to clear the air, the traditional color for awnings was always
white.

From the days of sailing ships right up to sometime after ww-II when
the unwashed hordes took up "boating" the traditional awning was
bleached cotton canvas -- white that is.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)


Very true. Essie had white Sunbrella canvas when I bought her, 6 years ago.
I went to dark green as a "fashion statement," in part -- I thought it
looked better and accented the green cove stripe. Also, it looks clean even
when it's not -- which is not true of the white.


There is a boat banging around Asia for years named "Watermelon" The
predominant color is green. The mainsail cover has a section at the
mast that looks like a slice of watermelon. It sounds kind of weird
but actually looks good.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Rich Hampel June 8th 07 12:47 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 
I will ....
The dark colors are easier on your eyes because they absorb most of the
'color' reflectance.
Light Bright colors better reflect the light ... think of
snowblindness and sunburned retinas. :-)

June 8th 07 02:06 AM

Sunbrela Colour
 
You have a good point.
A white shiny deck reflecting the sun is not easy on the eyes.

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
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I will ....
The dark colors are easier on your eyes because they absorb most of the
'color' reflectance.
Light Bright colors better reflect the light ... think of
snowblindness and sunburned retinas. :-)




Rosalie B. June 16th 07 05:47 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:47:03 GMT, Rich Hampel wrote:

I will ....
The dark colors are easier on your eyes because they absorb most of the
'color' reflectance.
Light Bright colors better reflect the light ... think of
snowblindness and sunburned retinas. :-)


Sunbrella has some new fabrics with one color on top and another underneath.

I have heard that dark colors are better for UV protection but I don't
know if that is the case. I talked to a charter boat captain who said
that people expected light colors in the tropics (where she was), but
that if she was doing it for herself, she'd have dark so it would be
like a cozy cave inside.

We have an off white bimini because I think it is cooler on a hot day.
More of the light is reflected off the top so less is converted to
heat. The bimini, even though of a light color, still makes shade so
that it is not too bright underneath of it. It might be a problem in
the winter to have the light reflected, but in that case, we'd have
the side curtains zipped on which would keep the wind out, and allow
it to warm up inside.

So bottom line is - I'm happy with my light colored bimini.


Bob June 17th 07 09:00 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
On Jun 3, 2:53 pm, Rich Hampel wrote:

I find darker colors are 'easier' on the eyes ... thats why baseball
caps have a dark green or black 'liner' under the visor.



Agreed, light colors reflect lots of light.

When was the last time you got a sunburn on the inside of your nose or
under your chin? Och!

Bark, green, blue, Tan/buck skin, battleship/deck gray, are my
choices. Most all the real boats Ive been on use a split pea soup
green for the deck.

Chromalogically Challanged Bob.

PS Painting my house trim. Just put "British Racing Green" AKA Jag
green, English cottage green, or old west coast boat green on my trim.
Looks real good. and very maritime too.



[email protected] June 18th 07 02:37 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 
Marie -

In your effort to keep the bimini around longer, you might consider
using a Teflon thread. The Teflon thread I use goes by the trade name
of Tenara and is guaranteed for life. As you probably already know,
the polyester thread often used lasts somewhere around 3 to 5 years,
maybe even less the farther south you are. In my business I have
found that a perfectly serviceable bimini or cockpit cover becomes
worthless quickly once the threads start deteriorating. It is
expensive, though. It can add as much as 17% to the cost of the job.
Part of the reason for the expense is that it is more difficult to
work with than the traditional anti-wicking polyester thread.

Good luck.

keith


On Jun 3, 7:29 pm, wrote:
That may re-enforce that fact that my 1982 dart bleu subrella main sail
cover has not faded away yet.
Only the stitches had to be re-done.
For my next boat we have selected a color named "Linen" for the dodger and
bimini.
We hope that the canvass will last several years before replacement.

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message

...

Although the polyester fibers used in Sunbrella are quite stabile ...
the lighter the color the FASTER the degradation by UV.
The darker the color the longer the life in UV exposure (including
sails made of polyester dacron, etc.).


As regards 'thermal capacity' .... polyester doesnt have much 'heat
capacity' nor mass; so, it really doesnt matter what color your choose
as the amount/quantity of heat 'stored' in the Sunbrella (to
re-radiate/emit through the 'back side') isnt going to be very much
different.


I find darker colors are 'easier' on the eyes ... thats why baseball
caps have a dark green or black 'liner' under the visor.


In article ,
wrote:


I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color
for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA




June 18th 07 09:41 PM

Sunbrela Colour
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Marie -

In your effort to keep the bimini around longer, you might consider
using a Teflon thread. The Teflon thread I use goes by the trade name
of Tenara and is guaranteed for life. As you probably already know,
the polyester thread often used lasts somewhere around 3 to 5 years,
maybe even less the farther south you are. In my business I have
found that a perfectly serviceable bimini or cockpit cover becomes
worthless quickly once the threads start deteriorating. It is
expensive, though. It can add as much as 17% to the cost of the job.
Part of the reason for the expense is that it is more difficult to
work with than the traditional anti-wicking polyester thread.

Good luck.

keith


Thanks for the information.
I just checked the Genco sprecifications and they are usind ultraviolet-
resistant polyester thread.
The making of the dodger and bimini is underway and its too late the change
the thread.
Ill know for the next time.


On Jun 3, 7:29 pm, wrote:
That may re-enforce that fact that my 1982 dart bleu subrella main sail
cover has not faded away yet.
Only the stitches had to be re-done.
For my next boat we have selected a color named "Linen" for the dodger
and
bimini.
We hope that the canvass will last several years before replacement.

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message

...

Although the polyester fibers used in Sunbrella are quite stabile ...
the lighter the color the FASTER the degradation by UV.
The darker the color the longer the life in UV exposure (including
sails made of polyester dacron, etc.).


As regards 'thermal capacity' .... polyester doesnt have much 'heat
capacity' nor mass; so, it really doesnt matter what color your choose
as the amount/quantity of heat 'stored' in the Sunbrella (to
re-radiate/emit through the 'back side') isnt going to be very much
different.


I find darker colors are 'easier' on the eyes ... thats why baseball
caps have a dark green or black 'liner' under the visor.


In article ,
wrote:


I am about to finalized the colors for my dodger and bimini.
This time, we are going for a lighter shade like Toast or Linen.
I wonder if anyone has any feedback as to what would be the best color
for
the hot and temperate climate.
TIA







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