On May 23, 8:42 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"navti" wrote in message

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On May 23, 6:35 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 23 May 2007 09:46:15 -0700, navti wrote:

AGM Leisure battery 110AH arrived flat

I just bought 2 AGM 110AH leisure batteries

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sspagename=STR...

They just got here and they are both completely flat,

The dealer said that was normal and i should trickle charge them for
24 hours,

He said they had been on the shelf for 8 months,

Shouldnt he have been charging them during that time ?
Shouldnt they be kept in storage at 50 per cent charge ?

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

AGM batteries have a very low self-discharge rate. About 1% per
month.
What you have does not sound right to me. 8 months on the shelf
should
not have left the batteries totally flat. The batteries may still
work
and take a charge, but their capacity and service life have been
affected. Personally, I'd be asking for a refund. I would not accept
a
replacement, because at this point, what's to stop the dealer from
charging up another set of flat batteries and sending them as
replacements. They will arrive seeming good, but they will be the
same
as what you have. He's already lied to you about this being "normal".
It isn't.

CWM

thanks

the batteries read 10.5 v and 11.5 v respectively

is there any way to tell how old they are ?

could i contact the manufacturer with the serial numbers ?

I bet I know what happened. Some ignorant battery sellers just add acid
and never give the battery an initial charge. They suffer from this old
wives tale that batteries are "dry charged." There is no such thing as
dry charged. Any lead-acid battery needs to have electrolyte added then
it needs to sit for about half an hour then it needs to be topped off to
the upper limit line. Then it needs to be placed on a charger that runs
at 1/10th the amp hour rating and it needs to sit there and charge for
24 hours min.

If a battery never gets this proper initial charge it will never perform
up to its specs and it will have a shorter working life.

Send the damned things back and stop payment. Hopefully you used a
credit card.

Wilbur Hubbard

i bought them on ebay via paypal so i should be covered.

just saw my other post appeared about 8 times !

"navti" wrote in message
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On May 23, 8:42 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"navti" wrote in message

ups.com...



On May 23, 6:35 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 23 May 2007 09:46:15 -0700, navti wrote:

AGM Leisure battery 110AH arrived flat

I just bought 2 AGM 110AH leisure batteries

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sspagename=STR...

They just got here and they are both completely flat,

The dealer said that was normal and i should trickle charge them
for
24 hours,

He said they had been on the shelf for 8 months,

Shouldnt he have been charging them during that time ?
Shouldnt they be kept in storage at 50 per cent charge ?

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

AGM batteries have a very low self-discharge rate. About 1% per
month.
What you have does not sound right to me. 8 months on the shelf
should
not have left the batteries totally flat. The batteries may still
work
and take a charge, but their capacity and service life have been
affected. Personally, I'd be asking for a refund. I would not
accept
a
replacement, because at this point, what's to stop the dealer from
charging up another set of flat batteries and sending them as
replacements. They will arrive seeming good, but they will be the
same
as what you have. He's already lied to you about this being
"normal".
It isn't.

CWM

thanks

the batteries read 10.5 v and 11.5 v respectively

is there any way to tell how old they are ?

could i contact the manufacturer with the serial numbers ?

I bet I know what happened. Some ignorant battery sellers just add
acid
and never give the battery an initial charge. They suffer from this
old
wives tale that batteries are "dry charged." There is no such thing
as
dry charged. Any lead-acid battery needs to have electrolyte added
then
it needs to sit for about half an hour then it needs to be topped off
to
the upper limit line. Then it needs to be placed on a charger that
runs
at 1/10th the amp hour rating and it needs to sit there and charge
for
24 hours min.

If a battery never gets this proper initial charge it will never
perform
up to its specs and it will have a shorter working life.

Send the damned things back and stop payment. Hopefully you used a
credit card.

Wilbur Hubbard

i bought them on ebay via paypal so i should be covered.

just saw my other post appeared about 8 times !


Must be server problems somewhere. Another guy's post also appeared that
many times, too.

Wilbur Hubbard