* Rick B. wrote, On 4/17/2007 2:45 PM:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:57:46 -0400, Peter Hendra
wrote:

I know that this is off topic but it is very saddening to hear of yet
another mass killing in America.

If the 33 dead people had not been following the VTI policy of not
allowing handguns on campus, less of them would be dead. It is not
illegal to have a handgun in Virginia, but school policy forbade them
on campus. Too bad, one person ignores the policy and 33 following it
are dead.

Life is too short to follow stupid rules.

The real question is, if all campuses allowed handguns at all times,
would there be more or less killing? I know some here believe, as my
swat team friend says, "An armed society is a polite society," but
have have serious doubts that this would really work with kids. I
certainly wouldn't let my kid go to a campus if I thought a
significant number of the students were packing.

BTW, my policeman friend is not against moderate gun control, as a way
of limiting the number and type of weapons out there. But he says
that the strict laws here in Boston don't prevent gangs from simply
taking a road trip to VA and NC anytime they want to replenish their
arsenal.

Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

The whole gun thing is so nutty it is hard to even discuss it. I don't own
a gun. But a friend of mine is an advid gun owner and hunter.
He is without a doubt the most environmentally aware person I know. He
cares about the earth, the air, the wild animals.

Yet the "experts" here are calling him a nazi.

Isn't there a law in Florida that if someone uses a gun while doing a crime,
it is automatically a 10 year prison sentence? I probably have that wrong
but it is something like that.

That law should be made Federal. If you use a gun to commit a crime, 10
years; no ifs, ands, buts, plea deals, nothing.

And ,, if you are caught selling a gun illegally ... 15 years behind
bars.. no ands, ifs, buts, plea deals, nothing.

When the crime and punishment is tough, the criminals will get the message..
and that means the guy who would sell a gun.

Ask yourself :: would you sell a gun to someone if you knew that you will
go to jail if that person goes across the street to the police station and
says "he sold me this gun" and you are going away for 15 years. No plea
deal.. You are GONE.


"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Rick B. wrote, On 4/17/2007 2:45 PM:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:57:46 -0400, Peter Hendra
wrote:

I know that this is off topic but it is very saddening to hear of yet
another mass killing in America.

If the 33 dead people had not been following the VTI policy of not
allowing handguns on campus, less of them would be dead. It is not
illegal to have a handgun in Virginia, but school policy forbade them
on campus. Too bad, one person ignores the policy and 33 following it
are dead. Life is too short to follow stupid rules.

The real question is, if all campuses allowed handguns at all times, would
there be more or less killing? I know some here believe, as my swat team
friend says, "An armed society is a polite society," but have have serious
doubts that this would really work with kids. I certainly wouldn't let my
kid go to a campus if I thought a significant number of the students were
packing.

BTW, my policeman friend is not against moderate gun control, as a way of
limiting the number and type of weapons out there. But he says that the
strict laws here in Boston don't prevent gangs from simply taking a road
trip to VA and NC anytime they want to replenish their arsenal.

* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the
exact numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your
comprehension. Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder
spree, but the number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is
clearly high for the state, it is actually fairly low compared to
similar cities. Also, only about half of these are in the so called
"Black neighborhoods," so the gang related murders are less than one a
week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the
rest of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city
in the country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've
blatantly misrepresented the truth.

As of April 8. Jeff.

ps.. my point isn't that Boston is a dangerous place, it is that the liberal
crowd will use the VT Tech

murders for political gain.



========================



April 08, 2007

Teen charged with shooting other teen to death
3146 Washington St.
05:04
Enrique Baez, 17, of Jamaica Plain, charged with manslaughter in the death
of Cheyenne Baez (no relation), 19, pronounced dead at a local hospital....
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March 30, 2007

Randolph man shot to death
69 McLellan St.
19:03
James Jacobs, 27, of Randolph, found with multiple gunshot wounds;
pronounced dead at BMC....
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Shot to death on T bus
Washington Street and Columbia Road
15:03
Dwayne Graham, 18, of Hyde Park, shot in the head; one suspect sought....
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March 28, 2007

Man shot to death
870 Blue Hill Ave.
17:03
James Williams, 24, of Dorchester, taken to Boston Medical Center with
multiple gunshot wounds, pronounced dead....
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March 24, 2007

Woman shot to death
Geneva Ave. and Westville St.
03:03
Chiara Levin, 22, of Danville, Ky., pronounced dead at Boston Medical
Center; shooting occurred outside a late-night party. Police do not think
Levin was the intended victim. Man in car also shot; not seriously....
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March 14, 2007

Gunned down in broad daylight
Centre and Highland streets
15:03
Cedrick Steele, 18, found with multiple gunshot wounds; taken to Boston
Medical Center but died in surgery....
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March 11, 2007

Man stabbed to death in fight
21 Castle Ct.
22:03
John A. Austin, 24, stabbed in the chest, pronounced dead at Boston Medical
Center....
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Skeletal remains found
3529 Washington St.
19:03
Remains those of a man; age, race, cause of death undetermined....
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March 09, 2007

Teen shot to death
72 Olney St.
13:03
Quinntessa Blackwell, 18, transported to Boston Medical Center, where she
was pronounced dead....
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February 27, 2007

Man shot to death
63 Armandine St.
21:02
Jova Guidroz, 27, of Dorchester, pronounced dead at the scene....
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February 21, 2007

Shot to death
Columbia Road and Devon Street
15:02
Victim, Andrew Keith, 22, pronounced dead at the scene....
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February 18, 2007

Shot to death
Beaver and Cleveland streets
21:02
Man taken to Beth Israel, where he was declared dead....
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February 13, 2007

Two arrested in fatal drive-by triple shooting
39 Maywood St.
18:02
Roxbury and Hyde Park men arrested in connection with the shooting, which
left one dead, two with gunshot wounds and a fourth man with injuries from
his attempt to escape the bullets....
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February 08, 2007

Man shot to death
651 Warren St.
03:02
Tyrice Brown, 18, of Roxbury, taken to BMC; pronounced dead....
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February 07, 2007

Body found dumped at cemetery
399 Walk Hill St.
06:02
Damien Lackland, 25, apparently shot elsewhere; body left at Mt. Hope
Cemetery....
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January 27, 2007

Man found shot to death
57 Dewey St.
13:01
Pronounced dead at the scene. Victim, Warren Daniel Hairston, 21, of
Roxbury, had been reported missing several days earlier....
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January 12, 2007

Teen shot to death near Jackson Square T stop
940 Parker St.
19:01
Taken to Boston Medical Center with serious injuries; pronounced dead....
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January 01, 2007

14-year old first murder victim of year
Clarkson Street
05:01
Apparently shot due to events at a party; second victim reported in critical
condition....
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December 31, 2006

Shot to death near South Station
Beach and South streets
16:12
Cushings Fortuna, 20, of Hyde Park, 74th and last homicide victim of 2006.
Found with multiple gunshot wounds....
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December 26, 2006

Man shot repeatedly; dies
77 Monument St.
17:12
Taken to Mass. General, where he was pronounced dead....
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December 22, 2006

14-year old shot to death
631 Cummins Highway
18:12
Two teens shot; one pronounced dead from a gunshot wound to the chest, the
other is expected to live....
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December 05, 2006

Double shooting; one dead
91 Florida St.
21:12
One victim pronounced at the scene; other taken to Boston Medical Center in
serious condition....
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November 28, 2006

Double shooting; one dead
56 Holworthy St.
19:11
Both victims brought to Boston Medical Center; one pronounced dead, the
other expected to live....
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November 26, 2006

Party proves deadly
67 Milton Ave.
03:11
Five shot, one fatally, during a fight outside a party. The dead man was 18;
the other victims ranged in age from 14 to 17....
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Stabbed on Lansdowne Street
13 Lansdowne St.
02:11
Craig Vierra, 31, taken to Boston Medical Center, where he died. Natick man
arrested....
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November 18, 2006

Woman stabbed to death
Dudley and Kenilworth streets
02:11
Stabbed in stomach; taken to Boston Medical Center, where she died....
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November 12, 2006

Shot to death
32 W. 7th St.
03:11
Willie Reynoso, 29, of South Boston, pronounced dead at Boston Medical
Center....
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November 07, 2006

Two men shot; one dies
11 Hamlet St.
21:11
One pronounced dead at the scene; the other taken to a local hospital in
critical condition....
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November 04, 2006

Shot to death
36 Georgia St.
00:11
Victim pronounced dead at the scene of a gunshot wound....
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November 02, 2006

Domestic dispute turns fatal
75 Armandine St.
09:11
Niles J. Reavis, 41, of Dorchester, to be charged with the murder of Sandra
Reavis, 39, of Dorchester....
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October 28, 2006

Dismembered body found in two neighborhoods
95 Hollingsworth St.
16:10
Brian Lee accused of killing, dismembering his father, then dumping his
head, arms and legs in Roxbury....
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October 26, 2006

Stabbed to death
177 Harold St.
20:10
Man pronounced dead at the scene....
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October 22, 2006

Multiple gunshot wounds prove fatal
3118 Washington St.
00:10
Man found in rear of building; taken to Brigham and Women's Hospital,
pronounced dead....
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October 16, 2006

Man found shot to death in car
Fox Street and Mt. Ida Road
23:10
Victim pronounced dead at the scene....
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October 14, 2006

Man shot, killed
225 Bowdoin St.
00:10
Man, 23, found with multiple gunshot wounds to the chest. Taken to Boston
Medical Center, pronounced dead....
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October 13, 2006

Shot to death
42 Stanwood St.
01:10
Male, shot in head, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
More | Comments (1)

October 12, 2006

Stabbed to death outside a pizza place
1282 Hyde Park Ave.
21:10
Staggered inside Piece of Pizza following dispute between him and
suspect....
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October 11, 2006

Shot to death
10 Wood Ave.
23:10
Man reported shot at 10 Wood Ave. Found at Harvard Street and Cummins
Highway; taken to Brigham and Women's, where he was pronounced dead....
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September 30, 2006

Teen found shot to death
22 Howe St.
00:09
Male, 17, found with multiple gunshot wounds; pronounced dead at Boston
Medical Center....
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September 16, 2006

Man found fatally wounded in crashed car
Regent and Akron streets
00:09
Eddie Rowell, 21, of Dorchester, found in car that had just crashed. Taken
to Boston Medical Center; pronounced dead....
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September 15, 2006

Westin worker stabs another employee to death
10 Huntington Ave.
16:09
Ivan Sosa, 37, charged with murder in employee area near Turner
Fisheries....
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September 13, 2006

Shot to death
Crestwood Park and Townsend St.
23:09
Victim taken to Boston Medical Center and later pronounced dead....
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September 08, 2006

Shot to death
28 Seaver St.
10:09
Man pronounced dead at the scene....
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August 31, 2006

Man shot to death during argument
1502 River St.
10:08
More details from the Globe.
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August 21, 2006

Floating body found
140 Northern Ave.
08:08
Body of black male with no visible signs of trauma found. Being investigated
by the homicide unit....
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August 01, 2006

Two shot; one dead
156 Washington St.
00:08
Chucuma Omar Browning, 17, of Dorchester, pronounced dead. Second victim
expected to live....
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July 27, 2006

Man shot to death
242 E. 9th St.
00:07
Man, 24, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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July 25, 2006

Man shot to death
128 Intervale St.
23:07
Vernon Cobb, 21, pronounced dead at local hospital....
More | Comments (1)

July 22, 2006

Woman murdered at same spot her brother was killed
39 Annunciation Rd.
23:07
Analicia Perry, 20, shot in head at street memorial for her brother, killed
there four years earlier....
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July 21, 2006

Triple shooting leaves one dead
1921 Dorchester Ave.
01:07
Three men in their 20s found with gunshot wounds; one pronounced dead, the
others in critical condition....
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July 19, 2006

Man shot to death in front of childhood home
Woolson St.
11:07
Man not identified by police....
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July 16, 2006

Man shot to death
90 Ames St.
17:07
Man found with gunshot wound; pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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July 15, 2006

Man shot to death
34 Danube St.
23:07
Taken to Boston Medical Center, pronounced dead....
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Death investigated as homicide
15 Park Dr.
09:07
White male, found dead of unknown causes....
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July 12, 2006

Teen shot to death
194 Humboldt Ave.
18:07
Herman Taylor III, 18, of Roxbury shot multiple times....
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July 03, 2006

Possible murder in Franklin Park
Glen Lane
09:07
Coroner, homicide detectives investigating how a man ended up dead at the
rear service entrance of the Franklin Park Zoo....
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June 26, 2006

Toddler beaten to death
16 Westwind Rd.
21:06
Boy, 23 months, taken to Boston Medical Center in cardiac arrest; pronounced
dead. Cause of death ruled blunt trauma. Time not given in police report....
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June 25, 2006

Teen shot to death
Shawmut Ave. and Dwight St.
23:06
Two juveniles held; victim, 19, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
More | Comments (2)

June 24, 2006

Man dies from multiple gunshot wounds
6 Tebroc St.
22:06
Taken to Boston Medical Center; pronounced dead....
More | Comments (0)

June 22, 2006

Stabbed to death
72 Cheney St.
07:06
Autopsy revealed male found dead had been stabbed. No indication the man,
white, had any connection to the address....
More | Comments (0)

June 19, 2006

Stabbing near Faneuil Hall turns fatal
Congress and North streets
16:06
Victim taken to Massachusetts General Hospital, pronounced dead....
More | Comments (0)

June 16, 2006

Man found in car, shot to death
1 Rosa St.
00:06
Man found inside motor vehicle, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds.
Taken to local hospital, pronounced dead....
More | Comments (0)

June 12, 2006

Woman shot to death while sitting on front steps
6 Owencroft St.
22:06
Nhuan Nygyun, 18, taken to Boston Medical Center, pronounced dead....
More | Comments (0)


Man stabbed to death
Washington Street near Melville Avenue
20:06
James Green, 28, of Dorchester, taken to Boston Medical Center, where he was
pronounced dead....
More | Comments (1)

June 11, 2006

Triple shooting leaves one dead
1000 Blue Hill Ave.
01:06
Shooting at the Caribbean Culture Center. One man pronounced dead at
scene....
More | Comments (0)

June 07, 2006

Two shot to death
189 Bowdoin St.
13:06
Both found with multiple gunshot wounds; taken to Boston Medical Center,
where they were pronounced dead....
More | Comments (4)

June 02, 2006

Death of homeless man considered murder
Causeway St.
22:06
Police are seeking help to identify the man found dead across from the
Garden....
More | Comments (0)

June 01, 2006

Sister charged with stabbing brother to death
34 Mallon Rd.
21:06
Kathy Booth, 42, charged with murdering Keith Payne, 44, of Dorchester....
More | Comments (0)

May 26, 2006

Shot to death
Magnolia and Woodford streets
18:05
Victim taken to Boston Medical Center, where he died....
More | Comments (0)

May 18, 2006

Man shot to death
29 W. Tremlett St.
10:05
Allen McNeal, 32, found shot in hallway. Taken to Boston Medical Center,
where he died at 3:07 a.m....
More | Comments (0)

May 06, 2006

Man shot to death
13 Wendover St.
22:05
Alex Mendes, 24, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
More | Comments (1)


Shot to death
190 Hamilton St.
02:05
Police find man on ground; taken to Boston Medical Center where he was
pronounced dead....
More | Comments (1)

May 05, 2006

Shot to death
6 Carmen St.
20:05
Wellington Demaisonet, 30, discovered in alley with gunshot wounds to the
head. Pronounced dead at the scene....
More | Comments (0)

May 04, 2006

Multiple gunshot wounds prove fatal
River and Thorn streets
22:05
Steven Sydney, 22, of Milton, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
More | Comments (0)

May 03, 2006

Man stabbed to death
School St. and Champlain Circle
00:05
Marcus Heard, 32, got himself to Carney Hospital with stab wounds, then died
in the ER....
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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the exact
numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your comprehension.
Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder spree, but the
number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is clearly high for the
state, it is actually fairly low compared to similar cities. Also, only
about half of these are in the so called "Black neighborhoods," so the
gang related murders are less than one a week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the rest
of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city in the
country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've blatantly
misrepresented the truth.

* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 8:26 PM:
As of April 8. Jeff.

ps.. my point isn't that Boston is a dangerous place, it is that the liberal
crowd will use the VT Tech

murders for political gain.

And what will the conservatives will use it for?

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 8:26 PM:
As of April 8. Jeff.

ps.. my point isn't that Boston is a dangerous place, it is that the
liberal crowd will use the VT Tech

murders for political gain.

And what will the conservatives will use it for?




Same, same. In the end, they will both gain power from it.

TOKYO - The mayor of the Japanese city of Nagasaki was shot to death in a
brazen attack Tuesday by an organized crime chief apparently enraged that
the city refused to compensate him after his car was damaged at a public
works construction site, news agencies reported.

The shooting was rare in a country where handguns are strictly banned and
only four politicians are known to have been killed since World War II.
Mayor Iccho Ito, 61, was shot twice in the back at point-blank range outside
a train station Tuesday evening, Nagasaki police official Rumi Tsujimoto
said.

One of the bullets struck the mayor's heart and he went into cardiac arrest,
according to Nagasaki University Hospital spokesman Kenzo Kusano. Kyodo News
agency and national broadcaster NHK said Ito died of his wounds early
Wednesday.

Tetsuya Shiroo, a senior member of Yamaguchi-gumi, Japan's largest organized
crime syndicate, was wrestled to the ground by officers after the attack and
arrested for attempted murder, police said.

He later admitted to shooting Ito with a handgun with the intent to kill,
Nagasaki chief investigator Kazuki Umebayashi said at a news conference.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called for a "rigorous investigation."

It was the second attack in the last 20 years against a mayor of Nagasaki,
which was destroyed by a U.S. atomic bomb in 1945 and whose leaders have
actively campaigned against militarism.

In 1990, Mayor Hitoshi Motoshima was shot and seriously wounded after saying
that Japan's emperor, beloved by rightists, bore some responsibility for
World War II.

Tuesday's attack appeared to involve a more trivial matter, however.

Shiroo reportedly clashed with Nagasaki city officials in 2003 after his car
was damaged when he drove into a hole at a public works site. He tried
unsuccessfully to get compensation from the city after his insurance company
refused to pay up, according to Japanese broadcaster NHK.

Shiroo also sent a letter to broadcaster TV Asahi to protest recent money
scandals linked to Ito, including hidden accounts and public works
contracts, Kyodo reported.

Backed by the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, Ito was campaigning for his
fourth term in office before Sunday's elections. He was an active figure in
the movement against nuclear proliferation, heading a coalition of Japanese
cities calling for the elimination of nuclear weapons.

"Mayor Ito had a strong and boundless passion for peace," said Sunao Tsuboi,
leader of a survivors' group based in Hiroshima, a city also flattened by a
U.S. atomic bomb in 1945. "We all pray for his recovery."

Commonly known as yakuza, Japan's organized crime groups are typically
involved in real estate and construction kickback schemes, extortion,
gambling, the sex industry, gunrunning and drug trafficking.

The yakuza also have had a long-standing political alliance with right-wing
nationalists in Japan, although authorities did not indicate that Tuesday's
attack was politically motivated.

Organized crime groups are behind most shootings in Japan, with two-thirds
of the country's 53 known shootings last year being gang-related, according
to the National Police Agency. Police estimate there are about 84,500
gangsters across Japan.

Attacks on politicians in post-war Japan are extremely rare.

In 1960, Socialist leader Inejiro Asanuma was killed in an attack by a
sword-wielding 17-year-old that riveted the nation.

In 2002, a ruling party politician was fatally stabbed in a dispute over
political funds. In the 1990s, a Liberal Democrat lawmaker was killed at his
home by his daughter and an opposition lawmaker was stabbed to death by a
mental patient.

Last year, a right-wing extremist burned down the house of ruling party
lawmaker Koichi Kato after the politician criticized then-Prime Minister
Junichiro Koizumi's pilgrimage to a controversial Tokyo war shrine. No one
was home at the time.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the exact
numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your comprehension.
Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder spree, but the
number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is clearly high for the
state, it is actually fairly low compared to similar cities. Also, only
about half of these are in the so called "Black neighborhoods," so the
gang related murders are less than one a week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the rest
of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city in the
country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've blatantly
misrepresented the truth.