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State registered boat in Canada
If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state
registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long Try pinging Jeff over at alt.sailing.asa. He's the only one I know of who's lame enough to even want to sail to Canada. But, seems like I remember he was up there a couple years ago. He's got a smallish catamaran and I don't think he can get it documented. Not enough space inside (tonnage) probably. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:44:28 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote: If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. I have but it was quite awhile ago. Try calling 1-800-CAN-PASS I believe that is still the check in number when going to Canada. You're more likely to have trouble coming back into the US. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... Try pinging Jeff over at alt.sailing.asa. He's the only one I know of who's lame enough to even want to sail to Canada. snip... Wilbur Hubbard Yep... the Canadian Maritimes are no place for a girlieman in his mustard yellow sailboat complete with passion purple interior. |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:44:28 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote:
If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. Roger, I don't sail to Canada, I sail in Canadian waters, Lake Ontario at present, and often see US boats with State Registration tied up in areas I go. I also know Canadians who travel to the US and their boats are registered Provincially. Jan "If you can't take a joke,you shouldn't have joined" -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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There are no provincially registered boats in Canada. All the #'s
indicate port and the letter the province. The new #'s are probably just to conform to computer fields. Boats are registered with Canada Customs. Any US boat with occupants that can cross by land without problems, shouldn't have any arriving by water. |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 4/9/2007 7:58 PM:
"Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long Try pinging Jeff over at alt.sailing.asa. He's the only one I know of who's lame enough to even want to sail to Canada. But, seems like I remember he was up there a couple years ago. He's got a smallish catamaran and I don't think he can get it documented. Not enough space inside (tonnage) probably. Actually, I bought my 36 foot catamaran in Canada. It was state registered at first when we brought it home, but we ended up documenting it. So while we were in Canadian waters, we had state registration. However, we never "entered" Canada, and never saw an official until we entered the US at Oswego. It appears that Wilbur is carrying on the great tradition of nautical ignorance that Capt Neal pioneered. As anyone familiar with documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. |
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Roger ,, boats out on the Great Lakes go into Canada all the time. Why
don't you just do a Google search of a marina near the Canadian border. Look up .. wait .. I can look it up for you .. http://www.irishboatshop.com/ Check the web site for the Irish boatyard. They aren't far from the Canadian border up on Lake Michigan. Give em a call... they will tell you anything you may need to know.. very nice folks. ================================================== ==== "Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long |
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:21:37 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote: Give em a call... they will tell you anything you may need to know.. very nice folks. 1-800-CAN-PASS Free call, get it straight from the horses mouth so to speak, everything you need to know. |
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... As anyone familiar with
documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. That's odd. My 42 foot and substantially heavier cat is only 19 GRT and 15 NRT on my documentation. I wonder how we got such different numbers. It's really only mattered in Tonga where we paid harbor dues based on registered tonnage. -- Tom. |
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Roger Long wrote:
If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. to clear the waters... registration(federal) in Canada = documentation(federal) in the US licensing in a province of Canada = registration in a state of the US Confusing?... perhaps yes The paranoia you experience in the States with respect to "border security" will not be a concern when you come north. Our idea of border security involves some way of getting some of you wacky yankees to understand that you'll still be safe here if you leave your ****ING HANDGUNS at home. If your boat is registered, you'll be fine. In your case, the issue of importance will be returning to the former land of the free and the home of the brave. Having visited a country which shamefully employs children in the production of snowballs, the latest and perhaps most sinister form of WMD, for 10 months of the year, not having correct documentation upon your return, could be... problematic soooo...Cap'n Long...been to Canada eh?....let's just have a little lookie in the freezer shall we? |
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I see many state registered boats in the Gulf Islands of British Columbia.
Jack -- __________________________________________________ Jack Dale ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy http://www.swiftsuresailing.com __________________________________________________ "Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long |
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the_bmac wrote:
Roger Long wrote: If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. to clear the waters... registration(federal) in Canada = documentation(federal) in the US licensing in a province of Canada = registration in a state of the US Confusing?... perhaps yes The paranoia you experience in the States with respect to "border security" will not be a concern when you come north. Our idea of border security involves some way of getting some of you wacky yankees to understand that you'll still be safe here if you leave your ****ING HANDGUNS at home. If your boat is registered, you'll be fine. In your case, the issue of importance will be returning to the former land of the free and the home of the brave. Having visited a country which shamefully employs children in the production of snowballs, the latest and perhaps most sinister form of WMD, for 10 months of the year, not having correct documentation upon your return, could be... problematic soooo...Cap'n Long...been to Canada eh?....let's just have a little lookie in the freezer shall we? And I believe that includes flaregun? G |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. It appears that Wilbur is carrying on the great tradition of nautical ignorance that Capt Neal pioneered. As anyone familiar with documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. Somebody figured it wrong. Since tonnage, for documentation purposes, only measures internal volume of a hull (or hulls) exclusive of engine space, which is further based on cubic feet available to haul cargo, there is no way two skinny little catamaran hulls at 36 feet LOA can encompass 22GT cargo volume. And, if you read up on calculating documentation tonnage, you will also note the volume of any structure above the gunnels (your main salon and pilot house) can't be included. I know you aren't bright enough to calculate your own tonnage so you must have had somebody do it for you. My advice - - get your money back from that ignorant rip-off artist . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message
... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long If you have a proof of ownership, registered or documented, will be enough to enter Canada as it is to enter the US. I have entered the US with the Canadian equivilant of both (two different boats of course). If you call CANPASS when you get to Grand Manan, you may not even see a customs officer. If they decide that you are worthy of further inspection, you will be sent to St. Andrews where the RCMP will take a look around. This does not happen very often. Sterling |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 4/10/2007 6:46 AM:
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. It appears that Wilbur is carrying on the great tradition of nautical ignorance that Capt Neal pioneered. As anyone familiar with documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. Somebody figured it wrong. Since tonnage, for documentation purposes, only measures internal volume of a hull (or hulls) exclusive of engine space, which is further based on cubic feet available to haul cargo, there is no way two skinny little catamaran hulls at 36 feet LOA can encompass 22GT cargo volume. And, if you read up on calculating documentation tonnage, you will also note the volume of any structure above the gunnels (your main salon and pilot house) can't be included. I know you aren't bright enough to calculate your own tonnage so you must have had somebody do it for you. My advice - - get your money back from that ignorant rip-off artist . . . I just sent in the builder's forms. Its really easy, even you could have done it. Except, your boat isn't big enough. Sorry. And as always, you're misinformed about the measurement of multihulls. When the connecting hull is enclosed, then the entire beam can get included in the "volume" as the boat is essentially considered a monohull. As the form says: "For the purposes of Simplified measurement, twin hull and tri-hull vessels are defined as only those with no buoyant volume in the structure that connects the hulls together. In other words, the cross-structure, bridging, platform or “trampoline” connecting the hulls has no measurable depth or buoyancy as shown in the illustrations in Section II, Items 8 and 9 of this form. Cathedral hull forms and other similar configurations with no distinct separation of hulls are not considered multi-hulls in this context." If my boat had no enclosed central volume, and were considered strictly as a multihull, it would still measure 12 gross tons, almost triple its displacement. Also, engine space does not affect the "gross tonnage" but it does reduce the "net tonnage." |
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Jeff wrote:
* wrote, On 4/9/2007 11:20 PM: ... As anyone familiar with documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. Tonnage has nothing to do with the weight or displacement of your boat. Glenn Ashmore posted an explanation of tonnage a few years ago...I saved it...here it is: Tonnage has nothing to do with the weight of your boat. It is a measure of how much wine a vessel can carry. The word "tun" was originally a size of a cask used to ship wine from Spain & Portugal to England. In 1347 a tax of 3 shillings per tun was imposed and this was called "tonnage." A ship's size became known by the number of casks it could carry, and the word tonnage started being used to describe a ship's size. It was found that if you took the length x the breadth x the depth of the hold under the deck and divided by 100 it was close to the number of casks. That is where we get the "Measurement ton" of 100 cubic feet per ton. There are several kinds of tonnage: The first two are used by the tax collector. The next two are used by designers. The fifth and sixth are used by freight salesmen and canal operators and the last one is used by the USCG for documenting boats. Gross Tonnage - is the internal volume in cubic feet of the vessel minus certain spaces above the main or "tonnage" deck, like stacks and ventilators, which are called "exemptions" . Net Registered Tonnage - is obtained by deducting from the gross tonnage the volume of space that can't be used for paying cargo or passengers, that is to say the space occupied by the engines, the crew's quarter, the stores, etc. Displacement Tonnage - is the actual weight of the water "displaced" by the ship and is usually quoted in long tons of 2240 lbs. Light Displacement Tonnage - is the weight with nothing in it. Loaded Displacement Tonnage - is the fully loaded weight to the maximum and is on her summer draft in salt water. Deadweight Tonnage - is the difference between Light and Loaded Displacement Tonnage....the actual carrying capacity of the vessel. Panama & Suez Canal Tonnages - these are different from the internationally accepted definitions. There used to be a lot of variations between countries and the canal owners thought they were being conned, so they came up with their own definitions. Simplified Measurement System - The USCG decided that all this was way too much for bureaucrats to deal with for yachts so they came up with their own formula: Take the horizontal distance between the outboard ends of the boat not including rudders and bow sprits. Multiply that by the maximum beam outside to outside. Multiply that by the distance from the sheer line not including bulwarks or cap rails to the outside bottom of the hull not including the keel. Add the volume of the deck house/cabin top. Multiply by .5 for sailboats and .67 for power boats. Divide by 100. This will give you the "Gross Tonnage". Net tonnage is 90% of gross for sailboats and 80% for power boats. It should be obvious to anyone who's managed to get this far that your boat's "tonnage" no longer has anything to do with anything real; it only exists in the mind of some government bureaucrat. Another bit of maritime trivia: Rummage was the manner in which the wine casks were stored in the hold of the ship and came to refer to the whole ship's cargo. after a voyage any unclaimed and damaged cargo was stacked on the dock beside the boat and offered for sale - a rummage sale. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
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Though you left us, Neal .....I guess that was too much to hope for...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... "Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long Try pinging Jeff over at alt.sailing.asa. He's the only one I know of who's lame enough to even want to sail to Canada. But, seems like I remember he was up there a couple years ago. He's got a smallish catamaran and I don't think he can get it documented. Not enough space inside (tonnage) probably. Wilbur Hubbard |
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... But
the big difference would be whether you got measured as a catamaran, or as a monohull under the simplified rule. FWIW, I measured the boat as a catamaran using the simplified form which is now available interactively at http://www.uscg.mil/hq/msc/t3/cg5397/cg5397.form.htm. -- Tom. |
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"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote: * wrote, On 4/9/2007 11:20 PM: ... As anyone familiar with documentation understands, catamarans are actually rated very high by the formula. My boat, for example, is rated at 22 Gross Tons, even though her actual displacement is only 4.5 tons. Tonnage has nothing to do with the weight or displacement of your boat. Glenn Ashmore posted an explanation of tonnage a few years ago...I saved it...here it is: Tonnage has nothing to do with the weight of your boat. It is a measure of how much wine a vessel can carry. The word "tun" was originally a size of a cask used to ship wine from Spain & Portugal to England. In 1347 a tax of 3 shillings per tun was imposed and this was called "tonnage." A ship's size became known by the number of casks it could carry, and the word tonnage started being used to describe a ship's size. It was found that if you took the length x the breadth x the depth of the hold under the deck and divided by 100 it was close to the number of casks. That is where we get the "Measurement ton" of 100 cubic feet per ton. There are several kinds of tonnage: The first two are used by the tax collector. The next two are used by designers. The fifth and sixth are used by freight salesmen and canal operators and the last one is used by the USCG for documenting boats. Gross Tonnage - is the internal volume in cubic feet of the vessel minus certain spaces above the main or "tonnage" deck, like stacks and ventilators, which are called "exemptions" . Net Registered Tonnage - is obtained by deducting from the gross tonnage the volume of space that can't be used for paying cargo or passengers, that is to say the space occupied by the engines, the crew's quarter, the stores, etc. Displacement Tonnage - is the actual weight of the water "displaced" by the ship and is usually quoted in long tons of 2240 lbs. Light Displacement Tonnage - is the weight with nothing in it. Loaded Displacement Tonnage - is the fully loaded weight to the maximum and is on her summer draft in salt water. Deadweight Tonnage - is the difference between Light and Loaded Displacement Tonnage....the actual carrying capacity of the vessel. Panama & Suez Canal Tonnages - these are different from the internationally accepted definitions. There used to be a lot of variations between countries and the canal owners thought they were being conned, so they came up with their own definitions. Simplified Measurement System - The USCG decided that all this was way too much for bureaucrats to deal with for yachts so they came up with their own formula: Take the horizontal distance between the outboard ends of the boat not including rudders and bow sprits. Multiply that by the maximum beam outside to outside. Multiply that by the distance from the sheer line not including bulwarks or cap rails to the outside bottom of the hull not including the keel. Add the volume of the deck house/cabin top. Multiply by .5 for sailboats and .67 for power boats. Divide by 100. This will give you the "Gross Tonnage". Net tonnage is 90% of gross for sailboats and 80% for power boats. It should be obvious to anyone who's managed to get this far that your boat's "tonnage" no longer has anything to do with anything real; it only exists in the mind of some government bureaucrat. Another bit of maritime trivia: Rummage was the manner in which the wine casks were stored in the hold of the ship and came to refer to the whole ship's cargo. after a voyage any unclaimed and damaged cargo was stacked on the dock beside the boat and offered for sale - a rummage sale. yadayadayadayada. yadayadyaydya. enuf. U think we kair whut girlz say. whut a stoopid kunt. nobuddy cairz whut U poast. shut yore pi hole. goway. todd |
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"Todd" wrote in message anews.com... "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Another bit of maritime trivia: Rummage was the manner in which the wine casks were stored in the hold of the ship and came to refer to the whole ship's cargo. after a voyage any unclaimed and damaged cargo was stacked on the dock beside the boat and offered for sale - a rummage sale. yadayadayadayada. yadayadyaydya. enuf. U think we kair whut girlz say. whut a stoopid kunt. nobuddy cairz whut U poast. shut yore pi hole. goway. todd Plonk |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... "Todd" wrote in message anews.com... "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Another bit of maritime trivia: Rummage was the manner in which the wine casks were stored in the hold of the ship and came to refer to the whole ship's cargo. after a voyage any unclaimed and damaged cargo was stacked on the dock beside the boat and offered for sale - a rummage sale. yadayadayadayada. yadayadyaydya. enuf. U think we kair whut girlz say. whut a stoopid kunt. nobuddy cairz whut U poast. shut yore pi hole. goway. todd Plonk shut dore wen U sit fat but on toylit. no wanna lissen 2 turd splash. (he he he) bad enuf lissen to peggie hurl. todd |
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Peggie,
Thanks for that excellent exposition about a subject I used to be very involved with professionally. US regulatory tonnage has got to be the weirdest animal beauracrats ever came up with. Make a boat less safe and less watertight and you can operate it with a smaller and less experienced crew and less safety equipment. A 100 Gross Ton vessel, the largest economic size for most passenger operations due to other regulations, is under 100 feet long if you just measure an ordinary vessel. Regulatory tonnage lets you play all sorts of weird games with the structure and deck openings to make the vessel bigger while measuring the same. I remember designing passenger boats with six inch high decks because staterooms on decks above the main deck were measured differently. I once figured out how to design a 100 Gross Ton vessel 5000 feet long! -- Roger Long |
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In article ,
"KLC Lewis" wrote: "Todd" wrote in message anews.com... "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Another bit of maritime trivia: Rummage was the manner in which the wine casks were stored in the hold of the ship and came to refer to the whole ship's cargo. after a voyage any unclaimed and damaged cargo was stacked on the dock beside the boat and offered for sale - a rummage sale. yadayadayadayada. yadayadyaydya. enuf. U think we kair whut girlz say. whut a stoopid kunt. nobuddy cairz whut U poast. shut yore pi hole. goway. todd Plonk Me too |
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* Molesworth wrote, On 4/10/2007 9:11 PM:
In article , "KLC Lewis" wrote: .... Plonk Me too And yet you two bozos have to repeat it over and over. Most of us had plonked him a long time ago, and thanks to you we have to see it again. |
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:49:09 -0400, Jan
wrote: On 9 Apr 2007 18:35:50 -0700, wrote: There are no provincially registered boats in Canada. All the #'s indicate port and the letter the province. The new #'s are probably just to conform to computer fields. Boats are registered with Canada Customs. True, I should have said licensed provincially. However, that does not change anything else. I used the term registered as the US members seem to use documented for our registered and registered for our licensed. Both registration and licensing are federal matters - the provinces don't deal with boat documentation, of whatever form, at all. (However, they are apparently advised by the federal authorities when boats change hands, so that the provinces can collect sales tax.) The license numbers do indicate the location of the licensing office. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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I have done it, it is not a problem (West coast).
Cheers "Roger Long" wrote in message ... If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration, would you please let me know. Steve has me worried with his post reply that he heard somewhere that documentation is necessary. I spent quite a while on the www.cbsa.gc.ca site today but couldn't find an answer. You can speak to someone but it's like waiting for tech support. I'm sure I would have heard of this if it was the case but things change constantly with border security now and I'd hate to find out too late to get the documentation. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in
: If anyone has actually been to Canada in an undocumented boat with US state registration Roger! You're going the WRONG WAY! Canada is NORTH of Maine! Their snow is DEEPER! You need to come SOUTH....STEER 180! It's been cool in SC, this week, but they're predicting 80F this weekend! South!....SOUTH!! NO ICE FLOATING IN THE HARBOR! We even accept Maine registered boats on SC waterways. "He came all the way down here from Maine in THAT?!"..(c; Larry -- Damn, once they've been down 2500' in a minisub, they lose all sense of direction. Must be too close to Earth's CORE!....(c; |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Molesworth wrote, On 4/10/2007 9:11 PM: In article , "KLC Lewis" wrote: ... Plonk Me too And yet you two bozos have to repeat it over and over. Most of us had plonked him a long time ago, and thanks to you we have to see it again. You're welcome. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:46:50 +0000, Larry wrote:
South!....SOUTH!! NO ICE FLOATING IN THE HARBOR! We even accept Maine registered boats on SC waterways. "He came all the way down here from Maine in THAT?!"..(c; Right, so let's send him a tax due notice just for the fun of it. You never know, maybe the damn yankee will pay up instead of fight. Sorry Larry, I will have a loooong memory regarding your tax folks, even though it had a happy ending many letters and phone calls later. They are giving SC a bad name. |
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"Larry" wrote Damn, once they've been down 2500' in a minisub, they lose all sense of direction. Must be too close to Earth's CORE!....(c; It was 12,500 feet. I must be really addled! We're giving some serious thought though to bringing the boat down the the Charleston area for the winter after the hurricane season is over. We would need a place where we could leave it unattended for long periods though. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in news:461caf59$0$5798
: We would need a place where we could leave it unattended for long periods though. Charleston City Marina and The Harborage At Ashley Marina are in a heavily-guarded no-wake zone in the Ashley River near where the ICW turns left to go South out of the harbor. There is a fair current, but no waves to chafe...unless there's a hurricane, of course. The Harborage is now a condo, but they still rent out slips for the suckers....er, ah, "owners"...(c; Another, cheaper place to leave it would be Buzzard's Roost Marina where the ICW meets the Stono River on the southern end of Elliott's Cut away from the bustle of the city. Charleston City Marina - 843-937-8669/853-5725 http://www.charlestoncitymarina.com/ The Harborage At Ashley Marina - 843-722-1996 http://www.theharborageatashleymarina.com Buzzard's Roost Marina - 843-559-5516 on John's Island http://www.carolinacurrents.com/detail.php?108 BRM has no webpage....island folks still getting used to phones...(c; City and Ashley have free WIFI with your slip (or without it). City gave up trying to charge, what with all their customers logging onto Ashley's free wifi....(sigh) Let me know when you're bringing it down. I'll take care of it while you're away. Worrying over one more won't make any difference...(c; Of course, you'll want to meet CORA: http://www.charlestonoceanracing.org/ The countdown clock to CHARLESTON RACE WEEK 2007 says 8 hours from now! http://www.charlestonraceweek.com/ From Lionheart, we, sometimes, can spot the tops of their masts far ahead of us! Of course, with our handicap figured in, we may win the race if we get to the dock before the race committee has given up and all gone home....On Monday....(c; Of course, if, instead of lollygaggin' around in the freezing cold headed NAWTH to Canada....you were to head SOUTH, now, to the Holy City, you'd be here in plenty of time to participate in the next event: http://www.charlestontobermuda.com/ Larry -- |
State registered boat in Canada
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:51:05 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote: We're giving some serious thought though to bringing the boat down the the Charleston area for the winter after the hurricane season is over. Be sure to check with the Charleston county tax office before you do that. You may be exempt for one reason or another but I would assume nothing, and leave nothing to chance. Keep careful records of when you arrive and when you leave. http://www.charlestoncounty.org/inde...fo/TaxInfo.htm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_114604605 |
State registered boat in Canada
Are they trying to collect taxes from non-residents?
10.5% or even 6% would sure bump SC right off my list of options for the future. We have it good here in Maine paying only exise tax on boats. It's based primarily on horsepower so sailboats cost relatively little. -- Roger Long |
State registered boat in Canada
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:51:05 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote: We're giving some serious thought though to bringing the boat down the the Charleston area for the winter after the hurricane season is over. Be sure to check with the Charleston county tax office before you do that. You may be exempt for one reason or another but I would assume nothing, and leave nothing to chance. Keep careful records of when you arrive and when you leave. http://www.charlestoncounty.org/inde...fo/TaxInfo.htm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_114604605 Wow, sure glad I don't live in SC! Taxes on a $150K boat would be $15,750 per year or somewhere around $1300 per month. That is pretty high "rent" to pay to the state after paying for the boat too. Why haven't you SC folks revolted yet? It's time to seriously consider it. Don W. |
State registered boat in Canada
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:58:12 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote: Are they trying to collect taxes from non-residents? Can't say for sure but I would double check and get it in writing. They tried to collect from me because a previous owner, 10 years in the past, had somehow made it onto their delinquent list. When in doubt they assume the tax is owed and make your life miserable. |
State registered boat in Canada
* Don W wrote, On 4/12/2007 4:43 PM:
Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:51:05 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote: We're giving some serious thought though to bringing the boat down the the Charleston area for the winter after the hurricane season is over. Be sure to check with the Charleston county tax office before you do that. You may be exempt for one reason or another but I would assume nothing, and leave nothing to chance. Keep careful records of when you arrive and when you leave. http://www.charlestoncounty.org/inde...fo/TaxInfo.htm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_114604605 Wow, sure glad I don't live in SC! Taxes on a $150K boat would be $15,750 per year or somewhere around $1300 per month. That is pretty high "rent" to pay to the state after paying for the boat too. Why haven't you SC folks revolted yet? It's time to seriously consider it. I think there's another factor that gets tossed in, so you end up paying about 20% of the 10.5% of the "market value." Still, its a lot. Here in MA the annual excise tax is figured with a maximum assessment of about $20K for a mid-sized boat, so the annual bill is a few hundred. Documented boats get billed only if the harbormaster notices you. |
State registered boat in Canada
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Don W wrote, On 4/12/2007 4:43 PM: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:51:05 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote: We're giving some serious thought though to bringing the boat down the the Charleston area for the winter after the hurricane season is over. Be sure to check with the Charleston county tax office before you do that. You may be exempt for one reason or another but I would assume nothing, and leave nothing to chance. Keep careful records of when you arrive and when you leave. http://www.charlestoncounty.org/inde...fo/TaxInfo.htm http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_114604605 Wow, sure glad I don't live in SC! Taxes on a $150K boat would be $15,750 per year or somewhere around $1300 per month. That is pretty high "rent" to pay to the state after paying for the boat too. Why haven't you SC folks revolted yet? It's time to seriously consider it. I think there's another factor that gets tossed in, so you end up paying about 20% of the 10.5% of the "market value." Still, its a lot. Here in MA the annual excise tax is figured with a maximum assessment of about $20K for a mid-sized boat, so the annual bill is a few hundred. Documented boats get billed only if the harbormaster notices you. Land of the Free ....eh? Nothing free about boating down there. The only registration I pay on my 19 foot mini-cruising sailboat is $35.00 yearly to license the trailer. |
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