shaun wrote:


have done already and as i am a small computor tec/reseller
and my wife has a large clientele base as a accountant
we will only purchase xp based machines.
but what i would like to know is can we demand a refund on the vista
software if we convert to XP.....food for thought
shaun

Just buy from manufacturer's _BUSINESS_ sites instead of _CONSUMER_. I
just checked and HP still offers Microsoft Windows XP instead of Vista.

--
Kees

"Kees Verruijt" wrote in message
...
Just buy from manufacturer's _BUSINESS_ sites instead of _CONSUMER_. I
just checked and HP still offers Microsoft Windows XP instead of Vista.

--
Kees

Exactly how does one "consume" software, anyway? :-)

* KLC Lewis wrote, On 4/11/2007 12:17 PM:
"Kees Verruijt" wrote in message
...
Just buy from manufacturer's _BUSINESS_ sites instead of _CONSUMER_. I
just checked and HP still offers Microsoft Windows XP instead of Vista.

--
Kees

Exactly how does one "consume" software, anyway? :-)


One byte at a time.

On Register today:

SlinkySausage writes "Computer makers have been told they'll no longer
be able to get Windows XP OEM by the end of this year, despite strong
ongoing demand for the OS. Analysts and computer makers are wondering
if the move is premature given Vista's ongoing performance and
compatibility issues. Dell recently said it would reintroduce XP on a
range of machines due to customer demand but Microsoft will only allow
this until the end of the year."

On Apr 11, 10:38 am, Kees Verruijt wrote:
shaun wrote:

have done already and as i am a small computor tec/reseller
and my wife has a large clientele base as a accountant
we will only purchase xp based machines.
but what i would like to know is can we demand a refund on the vista
software if we convert to XP.....food for thought
shaun

Just buy from manufacturer's _BUSINESS_ sites instead of _CONSUMER_. I
just checked and HP still offers Microsoft Windows XP instead of Vista.

--
Kees

While we're on computers, does anyone have a source for a good USB DVD
player? Since Nobeltec has gone to DVD's only for the charts, I need
to add one.

Nobeltec says on their website, and in an e-mail to their registered
customers, that VNS wasn't ready to use with Vista. There are a lot of
problems with using Vista on a computer, not the least of which it
needs to contact the mothership (MS) on an ongoing basis, or it shuts
down. Not a good scenario when you're out cruising and not plugged in
all the time. My nav computer is dedicated to that, and never connects
to the internet. I can't and won't use Vista.

On Apr 4, 9:46 am, "Keith" wrote:
Nobeltec says on their website, and in an e-mail to their registered
customers, that VNS wasn't ready to use with Vista. There are a lot of
problems with using Vista on a computer, not the least of which it
needs to contact the mothership (MS) on an ongoing basis, or it shuts
down. Not a good scenario when you're out cruising and not plugged in
all the time. My nav computer is dedicated to that, and never connects
to the internet. I can't and won't use Vista.

Interestingly, the latest fix for the animated cursor flaw required me
to allow MS to install the "call home ET" function on my XP
machines... I had been refusing that particular download for some time
but now MS refuses to download the fix if you do not give Billy
unlimited access to your machines... While all my machines have legal
copies of XP/2003 on them it is still annoying...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

denny
denny

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
Interestingly, the latest fix for the animated cursor flaw required me
to allow MS to install the "call home ET" function on my XP
machines... I had been refusing that particular download for some time
but now MS refuses to download the fix if you do not give Billy
unlimited access to your machines... While all my machines have legal
copies of XP/2003 on them it is still annoying...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was not
aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I need to
get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet... what is the
proper technical name for that function - and is there any way to disable it
short of "rolling back" the software to the previous state???

Claus

claus wrote:

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was not
aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I need to
get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet... what is the
proper technical name for that function - and is there any way to disable it
short of "rolling back" the software to the previous state???

Unfortunately you cannot rollback. If you were using automatic updates and this little POS got
installed, you can't un-install it. The only solution is to fdisk-format-reinstall, which of course
leads into the same "upgrade" hell cycle you've just completed. If you're not willing to go Mac or
Linux, you're simply going to have to starts whistling "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".

....
Unfortunately you cannot rollback. ...

According to the wiki you can roll back by "removing the reference to
WGALOGON.DLL using HijackThis appears to effectively de-activate this
update, to the point where it will be offered again if it has not been
marked "do not show"".
Or your firewall may be able to block access to wgatray.exe. FWIW, I
strongly recommend checking custom when doing updates and then reading
each description carefully. Microsoft does not have your best
interests at heart.

-- Tom.