Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED anchor
light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be an
all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with LED's is
they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens. Very little
side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could make a sphere
with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might meet the legal
requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an inverter
aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough to go up the
backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be fastened to the
backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of those little 4-watt
automatic night lights into extension cord but take the incandescent
light out and install a 4 watt compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania
Decor 15. Make sure the little night light fixture is held by the cord
in an upside down position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth
of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved for
two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120 degree
sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5 amps. Cost
$264 at the boat show last year.

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing light
fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes out
of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute the
blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I can
take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.

--
Roger Long

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens.
Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could
make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might
meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough
to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be
fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of
those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension cord but
take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt compact
fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the little night
light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down position. For 4
watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120
degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5
amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably fades
out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Apr 3, 4:50 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message

...





Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing light
fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes out
of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute the
blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I can
take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.

--
Roger Long

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ledleft.htm

joe

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens.
Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could
make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might
meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough
to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be
fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of
those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension cord but
take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt compact
fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the little night
light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down position. For 4
watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120
degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5
amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably fades
out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard
I've checked all around from about a mile away and there is no
discernible decrease in brightness at any angle. You gotta keep up with
new technology Wilber.

"krj" wrote in message
.. .
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded
lens. Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose
you could make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and
it might meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long
enough to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can
be fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug
one of those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension
cord but take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt
compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the
little night light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down
position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a
120 degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only
draws .5 amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably
fades out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard
I've checked all around from about a mile away and there is no
discernible decrease in brightness at any angle. You gotta keep up
with new technology Wilber.

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Apr 3, 4:50 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those
silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ledleft.htm

joe


Thanks, Joe. found them at this link: https://www.superbrightleds.com/
Only one available, in either narrow or wide beam. I ordered three of the
wide beams, will let the group know how they work for me.

On Apr 3, 7:13 pm, Dave wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:58:20 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Jeez, Neal, with your Swan 48 that's gotta be chump change.

Jeeze Dave..it's a Swan 68... not 48. But you are right, he's
inconsistant and his cover is falling apart again.
Sorta like the way Ellen lost all credibility.

Joe

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:58:20 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Jeez, Neal, with your Swan 48 that's gotta be chump change.
I think he said it was a Swan 68

Roger Long wrote:
Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html


Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing
light fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes
out of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute
the blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I
can take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.


I've heard that the reason white LEDs seem dimmer is that the light is a
very narrow wavelength - just white with none of the other colors mixed
in.

Adding an amber or green - or both? LEDs to the mix might make a more
comfortable "white".

YMMV

Richard