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Most all this information you will notice comes from the DD-WRT Wiki.
I suggest spending a couple of hours pawing around over there. You are likely to discover many things helpful to your goal that I fail to mention. This page lists all the DD-WRT supported routers: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices Of these, the Linksys WRT-54G routers are the easiest to flash as it can be accomplished through the web interface of the router itself. The biggest problem with the Linksys routers is that there is significant differences in the hardware your are getting depending upon which version of the WRT-54G you have. Versions 5 and 6 are notoriously hard to deal with a they have been crippled at the factory (I remember somewhere that it was possible to get around this somehow) For an off the shelf new Linksys, it is best to go with the WRT-54GL. One advantage of the Linksys routers over the Buffalo id twin antennas. This could be helpful in a repeater set-up where one antenna is used to connect to the access point (8 dBi stick) and another is used to connect with your lap top (80 degree directional pointing down from your mast). The DD-WRT firmware can sense which antenna is most useful for the connection and use that antanna. Although the Buffalo routers are not the easiest to flash (it requires using a command line interface and a TFTP utility), it is neither rocket science, nor uber-geekdom. The pay-off is the best hardware in the smallest package size. You asked about bricking. There is a Wiki that deals with that: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php...om_a_Bad_Flash Basicly it is near impossible to render a router completly unuseable by flashing incorrectly. Even if you did brick a couple routers, you are still money ahead of where you would be if your were buying Senao equipment. I do not know what develpment tools are used for writing the firmware itself. Coding on that level is way beyond anything of interest or utility to most cruisers. I play around at the level of adding "packages." These are preconfigured add-ons that typically become a part of the unix operating environment of the router and are automatically started when the router reboots. You can read about all the major ones that are availabe he http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials I absolutely agree with your statement about goals and priorities. Fortunately, this pathway is pretty well defined and yields pay-offs far greater than the time invested. With any system, you will spend at least a day creating a weather-tight enclosure and probably another day getting it up the mast or wherever its outside home will be. I am just suggesting that you spend an additional day reading and learning about DD-WRT before you begin the project, because doing so will save about 20 days of trying to solve all your problems created by locking yourself into inappropriate consumer-grade POS router/bridges that can't easily handle the changing AP connections. It will save you quite a few trips up the mast as well. David S/V Nausicaa On Apr 2, 7:04 am, Wayne.B wrote: On 1 Apr 2007 23:39:21 -0700, wrote: Once I discovered DD-WRT, it was this amazing playground. Every option available in every router plus more was all rolled into one. Plus contributors were writing code and scrips that added into the firmware to create even greater functionality. I suggest that you dig out some old router that you have lying around and load DD-WRT on it. Interesting, good information. Since I don't have any old routers laying around that are DD-WRT capable, which would you recommend buying? Do any of them have a way of recovering from a "bricked" state due to a faulty firmware load? What programming language is the DD-WRT code written in, and what development tools do you need for hacking around with it? One issue that I have is goals and priorities. My priority is achieving reliable WiFi service on the boat, not becoming a router/bridge/DD-WRT expert. :-) |
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To David and others...
Great posts, reviewed the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 Router specs. Flashing with dd-wrt.V24_AAP-0130-wrt54g.bin seems easy. I'm curious about what board-level mods you made. If you could eventually post pics (if you do the job again), that would be great. Any issues with the simple dropping resistor (to 5v) using boat power? Hank S. Ft. lauderdale |
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On Apr 5, 12:22 pm, hank wrote:
To David and others... Great posts, reviewed the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 Router specs. Flashing with dd-wrt.V24_AAP-0130-wrt54g.bin seems easy. I'm curious about what board-level mods you made. If you could eventually post pics (if you do the job again), that would be great. Any issues with the simple dropping resistor (to 5v) using boat power? Hank S. Ft. lauderdale It appears I will be making another set up for a friend in about a month or so, so I will be posting pics at that time. Here are the board level mods: 1. Spin the antenna connector 90 degrees so that the antenne wire and ethernet cable come out of the same side of the board 2. Scrape some components and traces off the board below the ethernet ports and run jumpers over to the power jack. This provides POE connectivity without having to have a bunch of other boxes or boards in the housing. VERY clean! I rigged up a voltage meter to a specially wired RJ45 keystone jack. I hooked this jack up to the ethernet plug at the top of the mast. In my electrical panel where I inject the POE power, I used a potentiometer in line with my house battery power. I turned up the pot until the voltage meter at the top of the mast read 5V. I then measured the resistance of the pot and but a resistor of the same value in line. I don't recall what the value was, but I could check if you liked. It is important that you use a trial and error process like this as the conductors in the ethernet cable are so small and the runs so long that the voltage drop is significant. In my system, the round trip distance is about 120'. To get a handle on what is at play here, check out: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm You can input wire sizes and runs and calculate voltage drop. Cat5 cable is usually 24 ga., but each leg uses 2 conductors. If you convert the twin cross sectional areas to the most appropriate wire guage, it comes out close to 21 ga. That guage is not an option in the calcuator, but 20 ga. is. Even at that guage, voltage drop is calculated to be over 20%. You can see that distance of the run is a very big factor here. I was a little concerned that cahrging voltages would mess with my system. But 14V/12.7V is only a 12% difference and so far has not shown any adverse effect. YMMV and if it does, let me know about your experiences. David S/V Nausicaa |
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