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Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel

sailing regulations
 

On 31 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0800, (Hertzel) wrote:

Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel


Neither the US federal government nor any of the states has any kind
of test or requirement or examination to own or sail a boat. The boat
does have to be registered so that a tax has to be paid, but that is
the only requirement.

When I lived in Japan, they did require a license which involved about
8 hours of classroom instruction and a quick 30 minute test in a small
outboard runabout. They held the test in either Japanese or English,
which was a nice touch. I have a great laminated certificate on which
the only English words are "Certificate of Competency" so it's a
really handy document ;-)

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On 31 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0800, (Hertzel) wrote:

Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel

If you think that the authorities in Israel will relax their
requirements because other nations are less restrictive, you're
dreaming. That's the classic case of a child telling his parents that
his neighbor's parents let them do something, so why can't they? It
didn't work when I was a kid, and I didn't have the problems Israel
currently has with her neighbors.

Steve

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:13:06 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:53:56 GMT, Dick Locke
wrote:

On 31 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0800, (Hertzel) wrote:

Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel


Neither the US federal government nor any of the states has any kind
of test or requirement or examination to own or sail a boat. The boat
does have to be registered so that a tax has to be paid, but that is
the only requirement.

That isn't correct. Many states have requirements that you complete a
safe boating course and pass an exam to obtain the certificate needed
to legally operate a boat or personal watercraft.

Connecticut for example:

Any vessel with any size motor is required to be registered and
numbered before entering Connecticut waters. Also, any sailboat over
19.5 feet powered by sail alone is required to be registered and
numbered before entering Connecticut waters. In order to operate that
vessel, you must possess a Safe Boating Certificate.

Doesn't the Safe Boating Certificate apply only to kids? I don't live
in CT, but I often stop overnight in CT marinas with a documented boat
(no external numbers but NJ tax decal on the mast.)

I remember reading about the CT test and it didn't affect me at the
time. Are you saying it does now?



BB


Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."

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I don't believe the CT law applies to people "passing though."


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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 00:52:29 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:13:06 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:53:56 GMT, Dick Locke
wrote:

On 31 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0800, (Hertzel) wrote:

Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel


Neither the US federal government nor any of the states has any kind
of test or requirement or examination to own or sail a boat. The boat
does have to be registered so that a tax has to be paid, but that is
the only requirement.

That isn't correct. Many states have requirements that you complete a
safe boating course and pass an exam to obtain the certificate needed
to legally operate a boat or personal watercraft.

Connecticut for example:

Any vessel with any size motor is required to be registered and
numbered before entering Connecticut waters. Also, any sailboat over
19.5 feet powered by sail alone is required to be registered and
numbered before entering Connecticut waters. In order to operate that
vessel, you must possess a Safe Boating Certificate.

Doesn't the Safe Boating Certificate apply only to kids? I don't live
in CT, but I often stop overnight in CT marinas with a documented boat
(no external numbers but NJ tax decal on the mast.)

I remember reading about the CT test and it didn't affect me at the
time. Are you saying it does now?


It applies to all. It was never just for kids.

BB



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."

sailing regulations
 

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:13:06 GMT, wrote:

That isn't correct. Many states have requirements that you complete a
safe boating course and pass an exam to obtain the certificate needed
to legally operate a boat or personal watercraft.

Connecticut for example:

I'm surprised and embarrased. It must have happened when I was
sleeping. What other states?

sailing regulations
 

On 31 Oct 2003 08:55:23 -0800, (Hertzel) wrote:

Hi
I am a sailor from Israel. I own and sail an APOLO 12 sailing yacht.
It is a Greek built boat, very suitable for the Med - fast and sporty
with large cockpit. She is 12 meter (36 ft) long. I sail the Eastern
Med, short cruises only, Israeli coast, Cypruss, Southern Turkey and
some of Greece.
Sailing regulations here in Israel are terribly restrictive. Our
department of transportation has all sorts of permits, tests and
examinations posed on sailors and boats.
I am looking for some good souls to help me gather information on
requirements and regulations in other countries so I can build a case
against our autorities.
Any willing person please contact me via the posted e-mail and be
blessed.
Herzel


While Canada has a Pleasure Craft Operator's Card, it is not hard to
get. There is a 36 question examination which does not require
practical competency.

It is being phased in, with a 2009 implementation date.

The web site is:

http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/providers/list_e.htm

Jack

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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 12:59:18 GMT, wrote:


Doesn't the Safe Boating Certificate apply only to kids? I don't live
in CT, but I often stop overnight in CT marinas with a documented boat
(no external numbers but NJ tax decal on the mast.)

I remember reading about the CT test and it didn't affect me at the
time. Are you saying it does now?


It applies to all. It was never just for kids.

Maybe a "Safe Boating Certificate" means passing an Auxiliary or Power
Squadron course? I have that, and I know the initial CT reg had no
effect on me.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."

sailing regulations
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 12:59:18 GMT, wrote:


Doesn't the Safe Boating Certificate apply only to kids? I don't live
in CT, but I often stop overnight in CT marinas with a documented boat
(no external numbers but NJ tax decal on the mast.)

I remember reading about the CT test and it didn't affect me at the
time. Are you saying it does now?


It applies to all. It was never just for kids.

Maybe a "Safe Boating Certificate" means passing an Auxiliary or Power
Squadron course? I have that, and I know the initial CT reg had no
effect on me.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."

sailing regulations
 

According to the connecticut website the requirement for a certificate
is only for boats registered in Connecticut. This makes since because
the US Constitution would prohibit otherwise.

Ron