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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Absolutely. My father was fond of saying: "This isn't a dress
rehearsal."
His point being that one lives life or one does not. You can't take
your
money with you, and I sure as hell have no great desire to pass it one
to my
kid and screw her up.

We initially thought of naming our boat "SOCI" with a sedilla on the C.
But we
thought it might be unncessarily provocative. Short for Spending Our
Children's Inheritance.

I've seen similar names, such as "Our Kids' Inheritance" and "Leaving
Nothing Behind for the Kids." The last one is a puzzlement--can you
imagine calling that in when asking for a slip?

Max


Asking for a slip? And that alone doesn't embarrass you?

Not in the least. My wife and I prefer to anchor whenever we can. Some
places we choose to visit don't have anchorages, and occasionally we have
people aboard who have different preferences and requirements than ours. We
make every attempt to accommodate our passengers/friends.

Begging to pay big bucks to tie up to two piles and a pier squeezed in
among other losers while having your boat attacked by stray electricity,

In over 40 years of boating, I have yet to experience anything resembling
enough stray electricity to affect any more harm to my boat than a slight
degradation of my sacrificial zincs.

water polluted with sewage and fuel and oil,

Not in the Great Lakes. I'm sorry if you must sail such waters.

subjected to roaches, noise, fumes, rats, cats and dogs ****ing on your
lines.

Never in 40 years.

The very least of your worries is how stupid the name of your boat is, I
should think. Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to shore.
Why on earth would you pay money to support any operation that treats you
like scum and charges an arm and a leg for it. Ya gotta be a masochist.

We've done the mooring bit, and of course we anchor far more often than take
transient slips when cruising. But we enjoy the camaraderie of a slip in
our home port. Most of the people on the dock are close friends. We party
with them, we sail with them, or take them sailing with us. We dine with
them, and have pleasant evenings with them while chatting and watching the
sun set off the end of our dock, all while loners and antisocial types hang
on their moorings in solitude, wondering what all the laughter from our dock
is about. Each to his own. Of course I realize you'd prefer a world in
which everyone thought exactly as you do, but that might be a world in which
most of us would prefer not to live.

Max

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.

Sounds like someone who'd own a talking horse.

Max

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Beats the hell outta Lauri.

In your wildest dreams. Lauri is a sexy name. Wilbur is . . . . . . um,
Wilbur. Neal is for nerds.

Max

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On Mar 22, 10:25 pm, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.

Beats the hell outta Lauri.

In your wildest dreams. Lauri is a sexy name. Wilbur is . . . . . . um,
Wilbur. Neal is for nerds.

Max

Now Max behave...you're going to make Lauri blush.

Joe

Joe

The average boat owning idiot.
 

Real sailors, on the other hand, live aboard and travel from place
to place and anchor out every night of the year.

Hell with that. I'd rather do a race and go home to my nice air-
condition house and get horizontal on my sofa and watch my 50" LCD
projection TV.

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:08:19 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Mahommed Panaeyotis Hendra
Make fun of these

It's not overly difficult to make fun of somebody who can't even spell
Mohammad correctly . . .

Ah, and there we have in a nutshell Neal's problem--a total inability
to
think outside his narrow little box.

When you name a kid, there is no such thing as spelling the name
"correctly." You spell the name however you damn well please and
that's the
kid's name. So what if one is spelled John and another Jon?

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists and
how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is in
the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming the
Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who visited the
abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

Wilbur Hubbard

You are wrong moron. As the Koran - or more correctly transliterated
from the arabic - Q'uran - is written in arabic, there are several
accepted spellings.

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:05:24 -0400, "mr.b" wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.

Upon thinking about it, I can't recall anyone outside the USA with the
name that the miniomaniac uses as a pseudonym. Where did it originate
apart from the talking horse tv show?

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:08:11 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.


Yah. T'was but a joke, son. The idea being...oh bugger it. ;-)


Are you an "Asterix" fan - Gosginny and Udzero?

Peter H

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:28:11 -0400, Jeff wrote:

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:48 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 2:10 PM:

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists
and how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is
in the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming
the Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who
visited the abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

How then do you know the English spelling of Mohamed, as there is no
English version of the Qur'an?

Google it, silly boy!


Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

Peter H

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:11:08 -0400, Jeff wrote:

* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:03 AM:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

This is the first I had heard of that. I don't know if its
specifically British, or new political correctness. Of course, a
newspaper style guide is likely to be responsive to a vocal minority,
so its not clear what the meaning of "many" is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide...184829,00.html
Muhammad
Muslims consider Muhammad to be the last of God's prophets, who
delivered God's final message. They recognise Moses and Jesus as
prophets also.
The above transliteration is our style for the prophet's name and for
most Muhammads living in Arab countries, though where someone's
preferred spelling is known we respect it, eg Mohamed Al Fayed,
Mohamed ElBaradei. The spelling Mohammed (or variants) is considered
archaic by most British Muslims today, and disrespectful by many of them

i don't know how many Moslems there are in Britain and it really
doesn't matter but there are 230 million in Indonesia where I
sometimes work, and over 11 million in Malaysia, who most likely have
never heard of the Guardian (no disrespect intended) and who would
smile politely at that statement and be amused that people would spend
time on such irrelevancies.

There is a centuries old Sufi story my grandfather once told me (of
many). Please bear with me.

'With reference to the Guardian report"

A man, lost in dense forest amongst steep mountains, stumbled into a
hidden valley and came across a small village where he was made
welcome and given food, drink and a bed for the night.

He noticed that the meat and other food he had been so generously
given was uncooked and discovered to his amazement that the villagers
did not use or even know anything about fire.

To repay his hosts he showed them how to kindle fire by rubbing two
sticks together, one a hardwood, the other soft. He then showed them
how to cook their meat, rendering it tastier and easier to chew. he
taught them bread making, how to harden their spear points in the fire
and that they did not need to go to bed with sunset but could sit
about, sew, talk, tell stories to the young (it was before the
invention of television) and even illustrate Book IV of Plato's
Republic with shadows on the wall from the light oif the fire (He was
a well read man).

Several centuries later, another traveller came across the valley and
found that there were three villages in place of the original one.

Those in the first worshiped a single eternal flame, praying to it and
leaving offerings in the small temple sheltering it. A dedicated
priesthood ensured that the flame never went out and none but the
initiated came near it. They used the fire for nothing else as it was
too sacred for such profanities as cooking.

The second village, about which he had been warned to be a nest of
heretics, did not worship the fire. Instead, they worshiped the memory
of the man who had taught them to make it. They held in reverence a
sacred book that told of his deeds and contained many of his sayings.
They never used fire at all, no longer knew how to make it or what it
could be used for. The priests warned him as he was leaving of the
last village. They were a damned people and he had best avoid contact
with them.

At the last village on his way through the valley, the traveller found
that the inhabitants neither worshiped the fire nor the man who
introduced it. They merely used it for cooking, heating, light and all
the myriad uses that it could be put to.

The point, or the message is.........?

Less I be flamed for plagarism, I would point out that the originator
of this story is unknown. My grandfather was from Crete. This and many
like it are told between Greece and India, especially in those
countries once dominated by the Turkish empire.

Peter

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:09:27 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:28:11 -0400, Jeff said:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Now there you go confusing things for poor Wilbur, Jeff. He likes
everything
to be simple, with only one "right" answer--the one he thinks is
right.
Ambiguities like those you suggest will drive him to distraction.

No, I just consider the source. It's more to do with inference than
ambiguities. What Jeff infers is often a non sequitur. As the premises
spring from the source and the source is suspect then premise equals
moot point as concerns being driven to distraction. Simple unassailable
logic.

Wilbur Hubbard

Ever heard of Dicken's "Mrs Malaprop"? Your use of the above terms
clearly illustrates the term "malapropism" and reveals your obvious
lack of a reasonable education. Pedantism is not an enviable
profession
Peter

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:50:24 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:08:11 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.


Yah. T'was but a joke, son. The idea being...oh bugger it. ;-)


Are you an "Asterix" fan - Gosginny and Udzero?

Peter H

Wasn't before, perhaps now.

It was the Latin quote that brought it to mind - no I never "did"
Latin.

I am not sure if they are obtainable in the States, but they are an
excellent set of "comic" books describing the adventures of the main
hero "Asterix" and the other villagers of a small group of
"indomitable Gauls" holding out against the might of Caesar's Legions.

Originally written as an educational series for French children, they
have been translated into many, many languages since. They are
certainly not only for children. People of all ages are fans. The
molre you know, the more you will get from them.

Many of the names and much of the conversation are Latin puns. My
sister learned Latin at school and gets far more out of them than I
do. They are amongst our family's favourite books and are read by all
of us over and over again. each time getting something new from them.

The Druid "Getafix" brews a magic potion that gives the villagers
superhuman strength which they use to "bash' the Roman troops. Most of
the series are about the travels of Astewrix and Obelix - a menhir
delivery man about the world.

I know that if you read just one, you would be an addict forever.

Try to get one. You will not regret it.

cheers
Peter

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:52:01 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:03 AM:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling in
English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

This is the first I had heard of that. I don't know if its specifically
British, or new political correctness. Of course, a newspaper style guide
is likely to be responsive to a vocal minority, so its not clear what the
meaning of "many" is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide...184829,00.html
Muhammad
Muslims consider Muhammad to be the last of God's prophets, who delivered
God's final message. They recognise Moses and Jesus as prophets also.
The above transliteration is our style for the prophet's name and for most
Muhammads living in Arab countries, though where someone's preferred
spelling is known we respect it, eg Mohamed Al Fayed, Mohamed ElBaradei.
The spelling Mohammed (or variants) is considered archaic by most British
Muslims today, and disrespectful by many of them

Yeah, like there was a Jewish boy running around the Middle East named
"Jesus." It ain't even close to being phonetically correct.

Yes KLC,
He was a Jewish boy. for his entire life, he was never a Christian.

I was always confused as a kid by the many pictures of Jesus (we refer
to him as Isus ibn Mariam - the last often is spelled with a "y").

He was usually portrayed as having blonde hair, fair skin and bright
blue eyes. His outstretched hands were never calloused like other
carpenters.

I'll bet you didn't know that he is also the Moslem Messiah.
..
cheers
Peter

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:07:10 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:00:12 +1100, Peter Hendra wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:09:27 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:28:11 -0400, Jeff said:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Now there you go confusing things for poor Wilbur, Jeff. He likes
everything
to be simple, with only one "right" answer--the one he thinks is
right.
Ambiguities like those you suggest will drive him to distraction.

No, I just consider the source. It's more to do with inference than
ambiguities. What Jeff infers is often a non sequitur. As the premises
spring from the source and the source is suspect then premise equals
moot point as concerns being driven to distraction. Simple unassailable
logic.

Wilbur Hubbard

Ever heard of Dicken's "Mrs Malaprop"? Your use of the above terms
clearly illustrates the term "malapropism" and reveals your obvious
lack of a reasonable education. Pedantism is not an enviable
profession
Peter

Actually, that was, "The Rivals", by Richard Sheridan.

CWM

My God!!!

You are right. I now stand as a self acknowledged imbecile

thanks
Peter

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Maxprop wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Sounds like someone who'd own a talking horse.

Max


Hey...Tennessee Walkers are cool horses and if I had a horse down here I
would be tempted..with all this flat land seems the most efficient thing
and they can rack ...ever sat a rack...it's really weird...

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Scotty wrote:
"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com..
.

Real sailors, on the other hand, live aboard and travel

from place

to place and anchor out every night of the year.

Hell with that. I'd rather do a race and go home to my

nice air-

condition house and get horizontal on my sofa and watch my

50" LCD

projection TV.



So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Real sailors, on the other hand, live aboard and travel
from place
to place and anchor out every night of the year.

Hell with that. I'd rather do a race and go home to my
nice air-
condition house and get horizontal on my sofa and watch my
50" LCD
projection TV.


So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in

projection TV.



So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty



Maybe if we bathed?


together?



With Ringmaster? His wife might not like that...

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"katy" wrote in

projection TV.



So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if we bathed?

together?

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"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:19:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Beats the hell outta Lauri.

Wilbur Hubbard

Your ignorance and indefendable rudeness is appalling.

You obviously have never travelled overseas or come into contact with
any cultures other than your own. You are the epitome of the ugly
American who knows nothing of the world apart from his own immediate
surroundings and judges other cultures by his own narrow and
extremely limited view. I thank God that your type generally stay at
home.

To make fun of another person's name (who you have never met) which is
unfamiliar to your ears is childish and rather churlish to say the
least. If nothing else, it reveals your true nature as a pathetic,
insignificant little man who I can readily imagine would never have
the courage to verbalise in person the trite frass which he so bravely
pens to the web.

I would imagine that Lauri is more of a man than even you claim to be.
The North Sea is not a place for wimps.

I can well imagine that you are short in stature as well as in mind as
you display and reveal to the world obvious symptoms of "short man's
disease"

Get a life

Besides, just how manly is your pseudonym - "Wilbur" What has a Wilbur
ever done?

Mahommed Panaeyotis Hendra
Make fun of these

Captain Kneel's real name is Evelyn.

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"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
Mahommed Panaeyotis Hendra
Make fun of these

It's not overly difficult to make fun of somebody who can't even spell
Mohammad correctly . . .

Wilbur Hubbard

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katy wrote:




So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

Hey, now I know that Scotty baths every six months, whether he needs it
or not!


Cheers
Marty

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:




So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

Hey, now I know that Scotty baths every six months, whether he needs it
or not!


Cheers
Marty


How do you know?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:08:19 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Mahommed Panaeyotis Hendra
Make fun of these

It's not overly difficult to make fun of somebody who can't even spell
Mohammad correctly . . .

Ah, and there we have in a nutshell Neal's problem--a total inability
to
think outside his narrow little box.

When you name a kid, there is no such thing as spelling the name
"correctly." You spell the name however you damn well please and
that's the
kid's name. So what if one is spelled John and another Jon?

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists and
how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is in
the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming the
Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who visited the
abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

Wilbur Hubbard

The average boat owning idiot.
 

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 2:10 PM:

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists and
how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is in
the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming the
Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who visited the
abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

How then do you know the English spelling of Mohamed, as there is no
English version of the Qur'an?

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 2:10 PM:

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists
and how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is
in the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming
the Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who
visited the abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

How then do you know the English spelling of Mohamed, as there is no
English version of the Qur'an?

Google it, silly boy!

Wilbur Hubbard

The average boat owning idiot.
 

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:48 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/23/2007 2:10 PM:

And, there in a nutshell is Dave's self-centered myopia. He has an
ingrained, liberal inability to see that societal prejudice exists
and how kids with weird names or misspelled names are the victims of
disrespect, taunting, bullying etc. Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name. If
any Christian or Islamic name is used it should be spelled as it is
in the Bible or Koran. I pity a kid with the name Mahommed should the
radical Islamic Fascists take over. Such kids will be among the very
first to have their heads severed from their bodies for blaspheming
the Prophet Mohammad. Then they'll come after the parent(s) who
visited the abomination upon the world (and might I add, rightly so).

How then do you know the English spelling of Mohamed, as there is no
English version of the Qur'an?

Google it, silly boy!


Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

The average boat owning idiot.
 

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.


Yah. T'was but a joke, son. The idea being...oh bugger it. ;-)

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Sounds like someone who'd own a talking horse.

Max
Hey...Tennessee Walkers are cool horses and if I had a horse down here I
would be tempted..with all this flat land seems the most efficient thing
and they can rack ...ever sat a rack...it's really weird...

I said "talking," not *walking.* g

Max

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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katy wrote:




So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

Hey, now I know that Scotty baths every six months, whether he needs it
or not!


Cheers
Marty


How do you know?

Jealous?

Max

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:28:11 -0400, Jeff said:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Now there you go confusing things for poor Wilbur, Jeff. He likes
everything
to be simple, with only one "right" answer--the one he thinks is
right.
Ambiguities like those you suggest will drive him to distraction.

No, I just consider the source. It's more to do with inference than
ambiguities. What Jeff infers is often a non sequitur. As the premises
spring from the source and the source is suspect then premise equals
moot point as concerns being driven to distraction. Simple unassailable
logic.

Wilbur Hubbard

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* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:03 AM:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling
in English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

This is the first I had heard of that. I don't know if its
specifically British, or new political correctness. Of course, a
newspaper style guide is likely to be responsive to a vocal minority,
so its not clear what the meaning of "many" is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide...184829,00.html
Muhammad
Muslims consider Muhammad to be the last of God's prophets, who
delivered God's final message. They recognise Moses and Jesus as
prophets also.
The above transliteration is our style for the prophet's name and for
most Muhammads living in Arab countries, though where someone's
preferred spelling is known we respect it, eg Mohamed Al Fayed,
Mohamed ElBaradei. The spelling Mohammed (or variants) is considered
archaic by most British Muslims today, and disrespectful by many of them

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:08:11 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"mr.b" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:44 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Any responsible parent names his
child with a good, solid, respectable conventionally spelled name.

Q.E.D.

So is that pronounced "Ked," or "Qwed"?

quod erat demonstrandum

you can look it up, but basically Wilbur's parents have been slurred.


Yah. T'was but a joke, son. The idea being...oh bugger it. ;-)


Are you an "Asterix" fan - Gosginny and Udzero?

Peter H

Wasn't before, perhaps now.

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:03 AM:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling in
English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

This is the first I had heard of that. I don't know if its specifically
British, or new political correctness. Of course, a newspaper style guide
is likely to be responsive to a vocal minority, so its not clear what the
meaning of "many" is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide...184829,00.html
Muhammad
Muslims consider Muhammad to be the last of God's prophets, who delivered
God's final message. They recognise Moses and Jesus as prophets also.
The above transliteration is our style for the prophet's name and for most
Muhammads living in Arab countries, though where someone's preferred
spelling is known we respect it, eg Mohamed Al Fayed, Mohamed ElBaradei.
The spelling Mohammed (or variants) is considered archaic by most British
Muslims today, and disrespectful by many of them

Yeah, like there was a Jewish boy running around the Middle East named
"Jesus." It ain't even close to being phonetically correct.

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in

projection TV.



So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty



Maybe if we bathed?


together?



With Ringmaster

will the 3 of us fit?

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:




So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

Hey, now I know that Scotty baths every six months,
whether he needs it
or not!


you peeked?

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:




So would I, but you never invite me.

Scotty


Maybe if ypu bathed?

Hey, now I know that Scotty baths every six months, whether he needs it
or not!


Cheers
Marty


How do you know?

Jealous?


No. I take at least one bath a month.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On 24 Mar 2007 16:30:50 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

On Mar 23, 4:28 am, Peter Hendra wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:52:01 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:







"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/23/2007 4:03 AM:

Actually, that confirms my claim that there is no definitive spelling in
English. The preferred English is now Muhammad, but there are many
others and it is polite to follow whatever convention is used for a
personal name. However, according to the Guardian style guide some
Muslims find the traditional spelling "Mohammed" and varients to be
archaic and disrepectful.

Well, that may be so but there are a great deal of Moslems I have met
with my spelling of my name in Turkey, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Oman and
in Indonesia and Malaysia. This is the first I have heard of any
spelling of the name to be disrespectful

This is the first I had heard of that. I don't know if its specifically
British, or new political correctness. Of course, a newspaper style guide
is likely to be responsive to a vocal minority, so its not clear what the
meaning of "many" is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide...184829,00.html
Muhammad
Muslims consider Muhammad to be the last of God's prophets, who delivered
God's final message. They recognise Moses and Jesus as prophets also.
The above transliteration is our style for the prophet's name and for most
Muhammads living in Arab countries, though where someone's preferred
spelling is known we respect it, eg Mohamed Al Fayed, Mohamed ElBaradei.
The spelling Mohammed (or variants) is considered archaic by most British
Muslims today, and disrespectful by many of them

Yeah, like there was a Jewish boy running around the Middle East named
"Jesus." It ain't even close to being phonetically correct.

Yes KLC,
He was a Jewish boy. for his entire life, he was never a Christian.

I was always confused as a kid by the many pictures of Jesus (we refer
to him as Isus ibn Mariam - the last often is spelled with a "y").

He was usually portrayed as having blonde hair, fair skin and bright
blue eyes. His outstretched hands were never calloused like other
carpenters.

I'll bet you didn't know that he is also the Moslem Messiah.
.
cheers
Peter- Hide quoted text -

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I've never heard of him as a "Moslem Messiah" as far as I know, the
Muslims, consider him a great teacher, but not the "onlybegotten Son
of God" , and deffinately not on the same level as Mohammed.

As this is not a Theology discussion group, I shan't elaborate too
much but you are confusing the three mentioned people and roles.

1 Moslems belive that Jesus was a prophet of God as was Moses, and
others.

2. When Jesus stated that he was the "Son of God", this is what any
member of the Pharisees believed - that each was a son of God. Have
you even wondered why Jesus was not brought before the Sanhedrin on
charges of blasphemy because of that statement?

3. In the Koran, it clearly states that the Prophet Mohammed said -
"there is no Mahdi (Messiah) save Isus ibn Mariam (Jesus, son of
Mary)"

I threw that to KLC but he refused to pick it up.

cheers
Peter Hendra