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Peter Hendra March 18th 07 02:20 AM

Danger at sea quote
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion. Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

regards
waiting for a tirade

Peter Hendra

Roger Long March 18th 07 02:37 AM

Danger at sea quote
 
I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts of
my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm

Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing on
it.

--
Roger Long



Capt. JG March 18th 07 04:31 AM

Danger at sea quote
 
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts
of my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm

Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing
on it.

--
Roger Long



I like your sentiments. I tell my students that I know it sounds
counter-intuitive, but you'll find that if there's something you need to do
urgently on a sailboat, such as put her in reverse or turn sharply, slow
down rather than speed up. There will be far less damage when you hit
whatever it is you're intending to avoid.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Goofball_star_dot_etal March 18th 07 10:29 AM

Danger at sea quote
 
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:37:12 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts of
my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm


The RNLI is the Royal *National* Lifeboat Institution.
http://www.rnli.org.uk/
You can find a "Motor Mechanic William Burrow" he
http://www.rnli.org.uk/rnli_near_you...Scilly/history
Galway Hooker:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...=Galway+Hooker



Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing on
it.






Roger Long March 18th 07 11:06 AM

Danger at sea quote
 
It's not clear to me that he was referring to a Galway Hooker. I think a
"hooker" in British usage might be any funky, traditional craft or modest,
handy boat. If anyone across the pond can enlighten us on this point, I
would appreciated it.

I'm a great admirer of the Galway Hooker type though. Developments of
these craft by the Boston Irish fisherman were renowned for their
seaworthiness and influenced the thinking of a naval architect named Collins
who worked to develop a safer type of fishing schooner due to excessive loss
of life in the industry. The hull characteristics we now associate with New
England fishing schooners thus trace their lineage back to these boats.
These developments in turn influenced smaller craft such as the Friendship
Sloop. There may be no traditional type that has had as much influence on
American vessels.

If it was a Galway Hooker that Burrows saw, there are few tradittional boats
better suited to taking your family across the Irish Sea on a night like
that.

I believe that the racing boats of the time were just as seaworthy as
traditinonal craft and perhaps more so. Many did quite well in the storm
and some arrived surprised that there had been any casualties. Generally,
the higher the speed they maintained, the less trouble they had. This takes
a lot out of the crew so the seaworthiness of the racing type in heavy
weather may depend on a large crew that can rotate helmsmen often enough to
keep them fresh.

--
Roger Long



NE Sailboat March 18th 07 12:58 PM

Danger at sea quote
 
The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail, and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your breath
away!



==========================

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
It's not clear to me that he was referring to a Galway Hooker. I think a
"hooker" in British usage might be any funky, traditional craft or modest,
handy boat. If anyone across the pond can enlighten us on this point, I
would appreciated it.

I'm a great admirer of the Galway Hooker type though. Developments of
these craft by the Boston Irish fisherman were renowned for their
seaworthiness and influenced the thinking of a naval architect named
Collins who worked to develop a safer type of fishing schooner due to
excessive loss of life in the industry. The hull characteristics we now
associate with New England fishing schooners thus trace their lineage back
to these boats. These developments in turn influenced smaller craft such
as the Friendship Sloop. There may be no traditional type that has had as
much influence on American vessels.

If it was a Galway Hooker that Burrows saw, there are few tradittional
boats better suited to taking your family across the Irish Sea on a night
like that.

I believe that the racing boats of the time were just as seaworthy as
traditinonal craft and perhaps more so. Many did quite well in the storm
and some arrived surprised that there had been any casualties. Generally,
the higher the speed they maintained, the less trouble they had. This
takes a lot out of the crew so the seaworthiness of the racing type in
heavy weather may depend on a large crew that can rotate helmsmen often
enough to keep them fresh.

--
Roger Long




NE Sailboat March 18th 07 01:22 PM

Danger at sea quote
 
Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail, and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM




NE Sailboat March 18th 07 02:59 PM

Danger at sea quote
 
Charlie,, you stupid F'n a hole.

I looked up the link that was posted in the message before mine. Since the
link was there, but not posted, I figured I'd just copy and post the info.

No big deal. Just trying to help out. Make it easier to follow the link.


But that isn't good enough for an A hole like you. What a jerk!

People like you should be banned from this group for being annoying.

Mr Knows everything.

Are you this annoying in your everyday life? If so ... kill yourself and do
the world a favor.


I can't believe you can be this big a jerk.

================================================== =================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:22:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!


No, you used someone else's work without giving proper credit or
attribution to
try and appear as if you knew something. It's quite clear you don't know
much of
anything. Your response above reinforces that fact.

CWM

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed
with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for
the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail,
and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the
very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM






NE Sailboat March 18th 07 03:46 PM

Danger at sea quote
 
It is hopeless. You are one of the biggest A holes I have ever come across.

In the future, whenever you see a post from me ... do not even think about
responding.

You are in my "Biggest A holes on Earth" file.

====================================

..



"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:59:11 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Charlie,, you stupid F'n a hole.

I looked up the link that was posted in the message before mine. Since
the
link was there, but not posted, I figured I'd just copy and post the info.

No big deal. Just trying to help out. Make it easier to follow the link.


But that isn't good enough for an A hole like you. What a jerk!

People like you should be banned from this group for being annoying.

Mr Knows everything.

Are you this annoying in your everyday life? If so ... kill yourself and
do
the world a favor.


I can't believe you can be this big a jerk.


I imagine anyone following this thread can easily see who is a jerk (and a
plagerist) without any guidance.

CWM

================================================ ===================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:22:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!


No, you used someone else's work without giving proper credit or
attribution to
try and appear as if you knew something. It's quite clear you don't know
much of
anything. Your response above reinforces that fact.

CWM

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed
with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for
the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified
by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail,
and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the
very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM







Roger Long March 18th 07 03:46 PM

Danger at sea quote
 
The more I sail, the more I find it like aviation in that far more people
have come to grief by doing things too quickly than by doing them too
slowly.

--
Roger Long




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