Danger at sea quote
 

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion. Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

regards
waiting for a tirade

Peter Hendra

Danger at sea quote
 

I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts of
my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm

Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing on
it.

--
Roger Long

Danger at sea quote
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts
of my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm

Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing
on it.

--
Roger Long



I like your sentiments. I tell my students that I know it sounds
counter-intuitive, but you'll find that if there's something you need to do
urgently on a sailboat, such as put her in reverse or turn sharply, slow
down rather than speed up. There will be far less damage when you hit
whatever it is you're intending to avoid.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:37:12 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I like that quote about the Fastnet race that Bob has posted a few times so
much that I've put an excerpt on a page of my web site with some thoughts of
my own:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Seamanship.htm

The RNLI is the Royal *National* Lifeboat Institution.
http://www.rnli.org.uk/
You can find a "Motor Mechanic William Burrow" he
http://www.rnli.org.uk/rnli_near_you...Scilly/history
Galway Hooker:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...=Galway+Hooker



Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing on
it.

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It's not clear to me that he was referring to a Galway Hooker. I think a
"hooker" in British usage might be any funky, traditional craft or modest,
handy boat. If anyone across the pond can enlighten us on this point, I
would appreciated it.

I'm a great admirer of the Galway Hooker type though. Developments of
these craft by the Boston Irish fisherman were renowned for their
seaworthiness and influenced the thinking of a naval architect named Collins
who worked to develop a safer type of fishing schooner due to excessive loss
of life in the industry. The hull characteristics we now associate with New
England fishing schooners thus trace their lineage back to these boats.
These developments in turn influenced smaller craft such as the Friendship
Sloop. There may be no traditional type that has had as much influence on
American vessels.

If it was a Galway Hooker that Burrows saw, there are few tradittional boats
better suited to taking your family across the Irish Sea on a night like
that.

I believe that the racing boats of the time were just as seaworthy as
traditinonal craft and perhaps more so. Many did quite well in the storm
and some arrived surprised that there had been any casualties. Generally,
the higher the speed they maintained, the less trouble they had. This takes
a lot out of the crew so the seaworthiness of the racing type in heavy
weather may depend on a large crew that can rotate helmsmen often enough to
keep them fresh.

--
Roger Long

Danger at sea quote
 

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail, and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your breath
away!



==========================

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
It's not clear to me that he was referring to a Galway Hooker. I think a
"hooker" in British usage might be any funky, traditional craft or modest,
handy boat. If anyone across the pond can enlighten us on this point, I
would appreciated it.

I'm a great admirer of the Galway Hooker type though. Developments of
these craft by the Boston Irish fisherman were renowned for their
seaworthiness and influenced the thinking of a naval architect named
Collins who worked to develop a safer type of fishing schooner due to
excessive loss of life in the industry. The hull characteristics we now
associate with New England fishing schooners thus trace their lineage back
to these boats. These developments in turn influenced smaller craft such
as the Friendship Sloop. There may be no traditional type that has had as
much influence on American vessels.

If it was a Galway Hooker that Burrows saw, there are few tradittional
boats better suited to taking your family across the Irish Sea on a night
like that.

I believe that the racing boats of the time were just as seaworthy as
traditinonal craft and perhaps more so. Many did quite well in the storm
and some arrived surprised that there had been any casualties. Generally,
the higher the speed they maintained, the less trouble they had. This
takes a lot out of the crew so the seaworthiness of the racing type in
heavy weather may depend on a large crew that can rotate helmsmen often
enough to keep them fresh.

--
Roger Long

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Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail, and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM

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Charlie,, you stupid F'n a hole.

I looked up the link that was posted in the message before mine. Since the
link was there, but not posted, I figured I'd just copy and post the info.

No big deal. Just trying to help out. Make it easier to follow the link.


But that isn't good enough for an A hole like you. What a jerk!

People like you should be banned from this group for being annoying.

Mr Knows everything.

Are you this annoying in your everyday life? If so ... kill yourself and do
the world a favor.


I can't believe you can be this big a jerk.

================================================== =================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:22:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!


No, you used someone else's work without giving proper credit or
attribution to
try and appear as if you knew something. It's quite clear you don't know
much of
anything. Your response above reinforces that fact.

CWM

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed
with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for
the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail,
and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the
very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM

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It is hopeless. You are one of the biggest A holes I have ever come across.

In the future, whenever you see a post from me ... do not even think about
responding.

You are in my "Biggest A holes on Earth" file.

====================================

..



"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:59:11 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Charlie,, you stupid F'n a hole.

I looked up the link that was posted in the message before mine. Since
the
link was there, but not posted, I figured I'd just copy and post the info.

No big deal. Just trying to help out. Make it easier to follow the link.


But that isn't good enough for an A hole like you. What a jerk!

People like you should be banned from this group for being annoying.

Mr Knows everything.

Are you this annoying in your everyday life? If so ... kill yourself and
do
the world a favor.


I can't believe you can be this big a jerk.


I imagine anyone following this thread can easily see who is a jerk (and a
plagerist) without any guidance.

CWM

================================================ ===================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:22:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Dear Charlie ,,, stick a long oar up your A..

I was just adding to an already started discussion .. not writing a F'n
book!

What an A..hole!


No, you used someone else's work without giving proper credit or
attribution to
try and appear as if you knew something. It's quite clear you don't know
much of
anything. Your response above reinforces that fact.

CWM

====================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:58:49 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

The Galway Hooker was an 18th century development; a boat constructed
with
the specific needs of the fishermen of the West in mind which quickly
became
their very own. The Galway Hooker is a unique variation, developed for
the
often unwieldy seas off the West Coast. It is most easily identified
by
the
sail formation, which is extremely distinctive and quite beautiful. It
consisted of a single mast with a main sail and two foresails. A
derivation
of the Hooker was the Pucan, which had one main sail and one foresail,
and
is also unique to Galway. Recently there has been a major revival, and
renewed interest in the Hooker, and the boats are still being
painstakingly
constructed. The best place to see them? - Cruinniu na Mbad at Kinvara
annually - the sight of twenty odd hookers on the bay will take your
breath
away!


When you post something that is not your own work, you should at the
very
least,
provide the link. The words above, are lifted from Galway.net and are
copyrighted.

http://www.galway.net/galwayguide/to...galwayhookers/

CWM

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The more I sail, the more I find it like aviation in that far more people
have come to grief by doing things too quickly than by doing them too
slowly.

--
Roger Long

Danger at sea quote
 

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:32 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

I imagine anyone following this thread can easily see who is a jerk (and a
plagerist) without any guidance.

Either stop feeding the troll or just killfile that dillhole and move on.

Danger at sea quote
 

Roger ,, isn't it the take-offs and landing when flying? Same for me when
sailing .. the docking and leaving docking.




"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
The more I sail, the more I find it like aviation in that far more people
have come to grief by doing things too quickly than by doing them too
slowly.

--
Roger Long

Danger at sea quote
 

It is the landings as the airplane will tend to fly itself unless you are in
some heavy iron or a helicopter. On the landing bit, any one that you walk
away from is a good one and one where you can use the airplane again is an
excellent one.

Leanne

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:AvdLh.4543$DX5.2354@trndny06...
Roger ,, isn't it the take-offs and landing when flying? Same for me when
sailing .. the docking and leaving docking.




"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
The more I sail, the more I find it like aviation in that far more people
have come to grief by doing things too quickly than by doing them too
slowly.

--
Roger Long

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I would but ........... I DON'T KNOW HOW.

Oh,, well.

This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............
This is what happens when winter never ends ............

Now,, I am repeating myself.


"mr.b" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:32 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

I imagine anyone following this thread can easily see who is a jerk (and
a
plagerist) without any guidance.

Either stop feeding the troll or just killfile that dillhole and move on.

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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:h9eLh.6569$el3.5917@trndny01...
I would but ........... I DON'T KNOW HOW.


If your newsreader is outlook express, select message/block sender.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Roger Long wrote:
The more I sail, the more I find it like aviation in that far more people
have come to grief by doing things too quickly than by doing them too
slowly.

--
Roger Long



Copy that, Roger!

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On Mar 17, 6:37 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:

Few things I've read say so much about the nature of the sea and sailing on
it.

--
Roger Long

Hi Roger:

I'll dig up th ebook where I lifted, or I mean quoted, the statment.
If I rememember right it was not a primary source, rather it was from
an author who used the quote from anohter souce. I have a few things
to do today and 2marow but should be able to cite the source soon.

Gezzz, this thread really turned into a mud slingging ****ing match
fast. Talk to you later. Hope your day goes well. Winter broke
yesterday in the PNW. Saw 65 F . Daffodills everywhere.

Bob

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Wait ,, did I see something?


Sea-Fever

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
And a gray mist on the sea's face, and a gray dawn breaking.



I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.



I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way, where the wind's like
a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.









John Masefield



================================
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

It is hopeless. You are one of the biggest A holes I have ever come
across.

In the future, whenever you see a post from me ... do not even think about
responding.


Then I strongly suggest you never post again. It's the ONLY way to keep me
from
responding. This is usenet. Get over yourself.

CWM

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:19:35 -0400, Jeff wrote:

* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/17/2007 10:20 PM:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Of course there was. Don't be naive.


Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

This is absolutely wrong. If you lift text, you must says its lifted,
and should provide the source. Always.


Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion.

Perhaps the emotion is not warranted, but the sentiment is valid.

Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

Nor would he ever be confused for one. That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

I really do think that you are going overboard here. I have been an IT
professional for over 30 years, much of that in management for
Government and companies such as Vodafone and IBM. I have written, do
write and have received many reports, recommendations with supporting
details etc. These days, virtually nobody using the web to collate
information gives the references unless it is a specific and unique
document supporting the recommendation.

When a Powerpoint presentation is composed and presented - how often
do you see any reference to the "facts" or the source? - Virtually
never. In this modern world, one is not expected to be expert on
everything. In fact it is undesirable in many ways because there is
then a tendency amongst individuals to believe that they are THE
subject matter experts and then learn new developments less than those
who are aspiring in their expertise. Frankly, when I ask for a report
or recommendation, I expect the person to research the facts and
present those that are valid, substantiated and pertinent in a concise
and coherent manner. I couldn't care less where it all came from. I
expect the person to do their best.

I do however object to anyone claiming to be the originator of
documents that are the product of somebody else. I want to kill when
it happens to me.

This is not the situation in this case. No sensible web user who has
posted as frequently as the poster referred to would assume that
others do not know how to search.

Why not give people the benefit of the doubt? The world would be a so
much nicer place and so would this group without all the pathetic
"bitchiness" that is posted. If a person is a plagariser or guilty of
some other heinous offence, then sooner or later they will be caught
out and lose credibility.

Shrub lied constantly about "weapons of mass destruction" and
"international terrorism support" and yet the American people still
re-elected him. Every press conference I see on TV has him still
chanting the lie. Why don't you all write to him direct or protest in
front of the Whitehouse if you feel so virtuous?

Waiting for the fire
Peter Hendra

My ten cents worth

Danger at sea quote
 

* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/17/2007 10:20 PM:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Of course there was. Don't be naive.


Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

This is absolutely wrong. If you lift text, you must says its lifted,
and should provide the source. Always.


Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion.

Perhaps the emotion is not warranted, but the sentiment is valid.

Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

Nor would he ever be confused for one. That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

Danger at sea quote
 

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:19:35 -0400, Jeff wrote:

That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

Google knows all and tells all. :-)

How did we ever live with out it?

Danger at sea quote
 

On Mar 20, 8:19 am, Jeff wrote:
* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/17/2007 10:20 PM:

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Of course there was. Don't be naive.



Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

This is absolutely wrong. If you lift text, you must says its lifted,
and should provide the source. Always.



Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion.

Perhaps the emotion is not warranted, but the sentiment is valid.

Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

Nor would he ever be confused for one. That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

To whome it may be concerned:
Yall can steel my **** if ya wanna. Typos, impropper grammer, and all.
I dont care. This aint grad school. Chill dudes.
BOb

Danger at sea quote
 

"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 20, 8:19 am, Jeff wrote:
* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/17/2007 10:20 PM:

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.

Of course there was. Don't be naive.



Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.

This is absolutely wrong. If you lift text, you must says its lifted,
and should provide the source. Always.



Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion.

Perhaps the emotion is not warranted, but the sentiment is valid.

Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.

Nor would he ever be confused for one. That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

To whome it may be concerned:
Yall can steel my **** if ya wanna. Typos, impropper grammer, and all.
I dont care. This aint grad school. Chill dudes.
BOb





Dear Bob. I've been using "chill dudes" for about 20 years. I didn't know it
was yours, but I'm glad you don't mind my stealing it.

Danger at sea quote
 

Dear Bob. I've been using "chill dudes" for about 20 years. I didn't know it
was yours, but I'm glad you don't mind my stealing it.- Hide quoted text -

FAR OUT MAN........... Thats Hot.

Bob

Danger at sea quote
 

In article ,
KLC Lewis wrote:

Dear Bob. I've been using "chill dudes" for about 20 years. I didn't know it
was yours, but I'm glad you don't mind my stealing it.

No way. It's mine. I've been using for 30+ years.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

Danger at sea quote
 

In article .com,
Bob wrote:

Dear Bob. I've been using "chill dudes" for about 20 years. I didn't know it
was yours, but I'm glad you don't mind my stealing it.- Hide quoted text -

FAR OUT MAN........... Thats Hot.

Bob


That's mine also. g

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/20/2007 4:45 AM:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:19:35 -0400, Jeff wrote:

* Peter Hendra wrote, On 3/17/2007 10:20 PM:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:46:33 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please lighten up.

There was no obvious attemp at plagarization.
Of course there was. Don't be naive.

Nowadays we all cut and paste things we find on the web as
explanations. Seldom, unless it is portrayed as one's own writing,
which this clearly did not, does anyone give the source.
This is absolutely wrong. If you lift text, you must says its lifted,
and should provide the source. Always.

Yes, perhaps each item should give credit, but does this particular
situation really warrant such emotion.
Perhaps the emotion is not warranted, but the sentiment is valid.

Besides NE sailboat is a
frequent poster. He never claims to be an expert.
Nor would he ever be confused for one. That might explain why he was
caught in 7 minutes.

I really do think that you are going overboard here. I have been an IT
professional for over 30 years, much of that in management for
Government and companies such as Vodafone and IBM. I have written, do
write and have received many reports, recommendations with supporting
details etc. These days, virtually nobody using the web to collate
information gives the references unless it is a specific and unique
document supporting the recommendation.

Sorry, lifting a big chunk of copyrighted text without attribution is
wrong. Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive, having started in the academic
world where doing that would be a career ending move. But its still
wrong.



When a Powerpoint presentation is composed and presented - how often
do you see any reference to the "facts" or the source? - Virtually
never.

True, its less common where basic "facts" are concerned. But them,
how many "facts" on the internet are true?

And besides:
"facts do not owe their origin to an act of authorship. The
distinction is one between creation and discovery: the first person to
find and report a particular fact has not created the fact; he or she
has merely discovered its existence. [...] Census-takers, for example,
do not "create" the population figures that emerge from their efforts;
in a sense, they copy these figures from the world around them."
- Justice O'Connor giving majority opinion, Feist Publications, Inc.
v. Rural Telephone Service Co., 499 U.S. 340 (1991)

In this modern world, one is not expected to be expert on
everything. In fact it is undesirable in many ways because there is
then a tendency amongst individuals to believe that they are THE
subject matter experts and then learn new developments less than those
who are aspiring in their expertise. Frankly, when I ask for a report
or recommendation, I expect the person to research the facts and
present those that are valid, substantiated and pertinent in a concise
and coherent manner. I couldn't care less where it all came from. I
expect the person to do their best.

That's different, it called research. And if you did ask where the
data came from, they should be prepared to answer.


I do however object to anyone claiming to be the originator of
documents that are the product of somebody else. I want to kill when
it happens to me.

Of course. And that is what was done. A full paragraph, about 150 words.


This is not the situation in this case. No sensible web user who has
posted as frequently as the poster referred to would assume that
others do not know how to search.

You're being naive - I see this often.


Why not give people the benefit of the doubt?

NE lost that privilege a while back.

The world would be a so
much nicer place and so would this group without all the pathetic
"bitchiness" that is posted. If a person is a plagariser or guilty of
some other heinous offence, then sooner or later they will be caught
out and lose credibility.

In this case it took seven minutes.


Shrub lied constantly about "weapons of mass destruction" and
"international terrorism support" and yet the American people still
re-elected him. Every press conference I see on TV has him still
chanting the lie. Why don't you all write to him direct or protest in
front of the Whitehouse if you feel so virtuous?

Did he lie? Or was he too stupid to realize others were lying to him?
I say its a tossup.


Waiting for the fire
Peter Hendra

My ten cents worth
It seems to me I've heard this phrase before ...

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article .com,
Bob wrote:

Dear Bob. I've been using "chill dudes" for about 20 years. I didn't know it
was yours, but I'm glad you don't mind my stealing it.- Hide quoted text -

FAR OUT MAN........... Thats Hot.

Bob



That's mine also. g

You're gonna have to show a cite to back up your claim of precedence.

DT

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In article ,
dt wrote:
FAR OUT MAN........... Thats Hot.

Bob



That's mine also. g

You're gonna have to show a cite to back up your claim of precedence.

Just ask my friends.. g

But, you can use it for free.

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