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"Bob" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 7, 11:30 pm, Larry wrote: "NE Sailboat" wrote in news:HuKHh.1566$pi.707 @trndny09: Bob has that fever .. wood boat fever. This can be a very dangerous condition. This condition IS treatable. Find someone with a wooden boat and offer him Bob and Bob's sander, every weekend for the next month, to help him do what he does all the time....sand and paint...sand and paint. Bob'll soon come to his senses and start looking for a nice FIBERGLASS boat to SAIL not SAND on weekends. Wood nostalgia is wonderful during that first hour of sanding, but wanes quickly as the sun tops the mast.... Dont get me wrong........... I wood never own a wood boat. U got 2 b nuts to own one or very very rich. I have a GRP, 1979ventage. I love it. Why? Cause it aint wood! Larry -- Can you hear the woodborers eating the hull as you lay in the v-berth? Ah,ship worms...... gribbles, torredo worms (which are not worms at all... actually a clam) Whats not to love about red lead, white lead, Dolpinite, pine tar................. Arg! uh, just about everything............. every spring and every fall. but please do not tell me a Pergo boat incapsulated in epoxy is a "wood boat" It just aint so. Theyre pretty, ridgid, water proof, light,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and plastic. Bob What is a wood boat joined with Resorcinol and encapsulated in paint, tar and varnish? If you want to join "Master Mariners," you must have a traditional wooden boat built using traditional materials and methods. Sort of the "fundamentalists" of the wooden boat world. But this doesn't mean that a *modern* wooden boat is not a *real* wooden boat, any more than saying that a *real* wooden boat must be trunnel-fastened rather than screwed together. An encapsulated wood boat is exactly that -- you cannot take the wood out of the equation just because you object to it. On the other hand, I would have no objection to calling such a boat a "Pergo Boat," although the Pergo people might. Maybe not -- they produce a magnificent product. |
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But this doesn't mean that a
*modern* wooden boat is not a *real* wooden boat, any more than saying that a *real* wooden boat must be trunnel-fastened rather than screwed together. Excellent point ! I guess the folks who stretched skins over wood frames and burt hollow logs would say that 1928 cavel planked troller was not a true wood boat. On the other hand, I would have no objection to calling such a boat a "Pergo Boat," although the Pergo people might. Maybe not -- they produce a magnificent product. Dont tell any one but I got a plank of that composit backyard decking. you know the stuff made of sawdust and plastic. Ripped it down for use under a sail track. Its great stuff, cheep, UV protected, tough, stable, sorta looks like wood, and availible everywhere. Goes great on my plastic boat! Now to get that last bit of wood of her. Next on my list to deep 6 are thoes teak grab rails on top the house. Wood........... I hate the stuff. Its a pain in the ass! But in my heart, epoxy + wood are not wood boats. Bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message ups.com... Dont tell any one but I got a plank of that composit backyard decking. you know the stuff made of sawdust and plastic. Ripped it down for use under a sail track. Its great stuff, cheep, UV protected, tough, stable, sorta looks like wood, and availible everywhere. Goes great on my plastic boat! Now to get that last bit of wood of her. Next on my list to deep 6 are thoes teak grab rails on top the house. Wood........... I hate the stuff. Its a pain in the ass! But in my heart, epoxy + wood are not wood boats. Bob I plan to use that "PlasTeek" stuff to replace the wooden grabrails on Essie. Not because I have a problem with keeping up with varnish on them (relatively minor compared with the rest of my wood trim), but because I don't want to put varnish on them -- too slippery for a hand-hold. A couple of years ago I stripped them down to bare wood and treated them with Penetrol, but I'd need to recoat them once a month or so in active sailing and that's too much work for me. Don't know that I'd use it extensively, but I do use Marine Grade HDPE all over the boat. It's great stuff, and nothing will stick to it. |
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KLC Lewis wrote: I plan to use that "PlasTeek" stuff to replace the wooden grabrails on Essie. Not because I have a problem with keeping up with varnish on them (relatively minor compared with the rest of my wood trim), but because I don't want to put varnish on them -- too slippery for a hand-hold. A couple of years ago I stripped them down to bare wood and treated them with Penetrol, but I'd need to recoat them once a month or so in active sailing and that's too much work for me. Don't know that I'd use it extensively, but I do use Marine Grade HDPE all over the boat. It's great stuff, and nothing will stick to it. No "PlasTeek" or real teak for me. Give me 316 Stainless steel handrails. Then all I've got to do is keep them bedded so they don't leak ;-) Don W. |
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No "PlasTeek" or real teak for me. Give me 316 Stainless steel handrails. Then all I've got to do is keep them bedded so they don't leak ;-) Don W. Right on Don! A man with common cents. Got to rebed the wood and plastic stuff too. So why not go all the way with 316L! Wood sure is lovely and easy to admire................................ on another guys boat! Might have to make it to a Port Townsend Wood boat show again. God there are some beautiful boats out there. So do you think the orignal poster is going to buy a real wood boat for a liveaboard? Bob |
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"Don W" wrote in message news ![]() KLC Lewis wrote: I plan to use that "PlasTeek" stuff to replace the wooden grabrails on Essie. Not because I have a problem with keeping up with varnish on them (relatively minor compared with the rest of my wood trim), but because I don't want to put varnish on them -- too slippery for a hand-hold. A couple of years ago I stripped them down to bare wood and treated them with Penetrol, but I'd need to recoat them once a month or so in active sailing and that's too much work for me. Don't know that I'd use it extensively, but I do use Marine Grade HDPE all over the boat. It's great stuff, and nothing will stick to it. No "PlasTeek" or real teak for me. Give me 316 Stainless steel handrails. Then all I've got to do is keep them bedded so they don't leak ;-) Don W. Stainless is a very good solution. Quite a bit more expense than plastic, though. |
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