I probably shouldn't let anyone in on the secret because there are SC
boaters reading this, but I'm a nice guy......

If you go out into the COUNTRY, where there are country stores with
lots of old stock laying around in their hardware departments, you can
STILL find bottles and granules of Dursban, the banned, but
great-working insecticide the pest control industry has gotten their
friends in Washington's EPA to wrestle away from the consumers who
quit paying pest controllers to spray into the cabinets.

If you get the granules, load up the dry parts of the bilges, behind
cabinets/refridgerators/stoves with granules. Dursban STILL does a
first-rate job, like it always did, killing off the creepy crawlers.

The other source I found out about is that the EPA, in cooperation
with powerful golfers who contribute to campaigns and don't like to be
bitten by ants on the 1st tee, have quietly gotten golf courses exempt
from the pest control bribing. It's called Dursban Pro, now, and if
you know someone in the golf course biz you can get your supply from
there.

My house and its parrot pets, who are very sensitive to anything that
will kill a roach, have been saturated with Dursban since its
introduction. None of us...human or birds....has chemical weapons
lesions leaking puss from its use, here. Just don't pour it on the
kids or spray it where the kids can play in it. Dursban only needs
perimeter spraying, anyways.

You need to see the South Carolina State Bird, the "Water Bug". It's
a roach-like, 4 inch long, dark brown beast of a beetle that's
actually quite harmless, once you get used to him, that can cause
heart seizures in the unenlightnened, when he crawls across your face
in the dark at 4AM after a drinking binge has fogged your memory.
Unlike the German roaches, they'd just as soon fly as crawl, being
very comfortable with either mode. Stomped, they emit a decided
"Pop!" and some green stuff. Some South Carolinians think they are
"not from 'round heah", an alien life form......



On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:26:51 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

I've never had a roach problem on a boat before, but have got one now. Those
damm little German cockroaches have gotten a foothold, and nothing I'm using
is doing much good. I have used those Raid Max smoke type foggers twice,
sprayed everywhere with Raid Max, and then used the "wet" foggers. I can
knock them down for awhile, but not out.

Raid Max used to be the best, lasted for months. They've reformulated it to
a water-based formulation that smells completely differently from the old
style, and it doesn't seem to do anything unless you spray it right on them,
despite their claims that it "kills for up to 6 months".

Any ideas?




Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

Larry W4CSC ) wrote:
: I probably shouldn't let anyone in on the secret because there are SC
: boaters reading this, but I'm a nice guy......

: If you go out into the COUNTRY, where there are country stores with
: lots of old stock laying around in their hardware departments, you can
: STILL find bottles and granules of Dursban, the banned, but
: great-working insecticide the pest control industry has gotten their
: friends in Washington's EPA to wrestle away from the consumers who
: quit paying pest controllers to spray into the cabinets.

: If you get the granules, load up the dry parts of the bilges, behind
: cabinets/refridgerators/stoves with granules. Dursban STILL does a
: first-rate job, like it always did, killing off the creepy crawlers.

: The other source I found out about is that the EPA, in cooperation
: with powerful golfers who contribute to campaigns and don't like to be
: bitten by ants on the 1st tee, have quietly gotten golf courses exempt
: from the pest control bribing. It's called Dursban Pro, now, and if
: you know someone in the golf course biz you can get your supply from
: there.

: My house and its parrot pets, who are very sensitive to anything that
: will kill a roach, have been saturated with Dursban since its
: introduction. None of us...human or birds....has chemical weapons
: lesions leaking puss from its use, here. Just don't pour it on the
: kids or spray it where the kids can play in it. Dursban only needs
: perimeter spraying, anyways.

: You need to see the South Carolina State Bird, the "Water Bug". It's
: a roach-like, 4 inch long, dark brown beast of a beetle that's
: actually quite harmless, once you get used to him, that can cause
: heart seizures in the unenlightnened, when he crawls across your face
: in the dark at 4AM after a drinking binge has fogged your memory.
: Unlike the German roaches, they'd just as soon fly as crawl, being
: very comfortable with either mode. Stomped, they emit a decided
: "Pop!" and some green stuff. Some South Carolinians think they are
: "not from 'round heah", an alien life form......


boric acid ... cheaper, easier, and no EPA ban. Put some along corners
where the little buggers walk. They carry it back to the nest and kill
the whole lot.

--
Jim Hollenback

my opinion.

I came up with a roach reducer (rather than claiming that it really
eliminates them) accidentally. I poured some hot grease into a tin
can to let the grease cool and solidify before throwing it away. The
next day when I looked into the can, there were several roaches caught
in the grease. Apparently they were attracted by the smell, but when
they got into the grease they could not get back out. Just to
experiment I left the grease can out and within a few days it was
practically filled with roaches. Kind of the "greasy spoon"
equivalent of the "roach hotel."

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove

"Lee Huddleston" writes:

I came up with a roach reducer (rather than claiming that it really
eliminates them) accidentally. I poured some hot grease into a tin
can to let the grease cool and solidify before throwing it away. The
next day when I looked into the can, there were several roaches caught
in the grease. Apparently they were attracted by the smell, but when
they got into the grease they could not get back out. Just to
experiment I left the grease can out and within a few days it was
practically filled with roaches. Kind of the "greasy spoon"
equivalent of the "roach hotel."

An old and very effective method.

Another use for empty coffee cans.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...


The other source I found out about is that the EPA, in cooperation
with powerful golfers who contribute to campaigns and don't like to be
bitten by ants on the 1st tee, have quietly gotten golf courses exempt
from the pest control bribing. It's called Dursban Pro, now, and if
you know someone in the golf course biz you can get your supply from
there.

This is the reason why golf courses have now surpassed industry as the
single worst point-source polluters of ground water. Homeowners are next on
the list, followed by old car repair places.