Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

* NE Sailboat wrote, On 2/24/2007 1:09 PM:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

I use a Magma 2 on a mount that allows it to swing out over the side.
There is no spot on my boat to put a rectangular grill.

The Magma 2 is a huge step up from the old Magma - the cover does the
right thing, the lighter works, its never gone out. Although I have a
hose to the propane tank, and have used that setup for years, I've
recently reverted to the small bottles which I've found are easier to use.

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

I went through much the same process last year. After having finally
decided on the Magma Catalina, I brought it home and mounted it.

The latch failed. So did the replacement. Enough of that.

I got a portable grill from Lowes - all stainless - and modified the
feet to go on modified Magma mounts. You can see pix of that exercise
in my refit galleries.

97 bux, and 68 for the mounts. Works like a champ, but won't stay lit
in 20 knot winds from the stern - I've not yet had the chance to test
it in anchored conditions...

L8R

Skip

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Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 24, 10:09 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

Hi: those way too expenive marine hang on your boat
grills........................ The PO of my boat had one. It was one
of the first bags of stuff I removed. To many reasons why I removed it
and gave it to a friend who manages a 7 story appartment building. He
put it on the fire escape. If you interested in the down sides send
me an email.
Bob

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

The best grill is the one you custom build yourself out of 316 for intended
job in the intended place.
Steve

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
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It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

I agree with Skip about the portable grill from Lowe's. Half the
price of a Magma and those other "marine" grills. You will have to
design a mounting system for it, but that really is very simple--a 30
minute job. We use ours frequently for meat, fish, toast and baking
french bread. Never blows out.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Peter ... so far I am figuring that the Lowe's idea is the way to go..

Now, what Lowe's model did you buy? Are you talking a round grill, a square
grill, etc. what kind?

Once I have the grill .. I am thinking the model must be one small enough to
sit on a table .. right?

I haven't gone to Lowe's yet so if you could be more specific on the
attachment system?

What did you use for the attachment? What parts? Where did you get the
parts?

More info if you can?


==============
"Peter" wrote in message
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On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

I agree with Skip about the portable grill from Lowe's. Half the
price of a Magma and those other "marine" grills. You will have to
design a mounting system for it, but that really is very simple--a 30
minute job. We use ours frequently for meat, fish, toast and baking
french bread. Never blows out.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

I follow a rule ................. flames on boat bad!

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 25, 10:30 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Peter ... so far I am figuring that the Lowe's idea is the way to go..

Now, what Lowe's model did you buy? Are you talking a round grill, a square
grill, etc. what kind?

Once I have the grill .. I am thinking the model must be one small enough to
sit on a table .. right?

I haven't gone to Lowe's yet so if you could be more specific on the
attachment system?

What did you use for the attachment? What parts? Where did you get the
parts?

More info if you can?

=============="Peter" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
It is almost spring .. and I am thinking of a grill.

What grill, and what model and what mount and why .. etc.

Tally ho

I agree with Skip about the portable grill from Lowe's. Half the
price of a Magma and those other "marine" grills. You will have to
design a mounting system for it, but that really is very simple--a 30
minute job. We use ours frequently for meat, fish, toast and baking
french bread. Never blows out.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

http://justpickone.org/skip/gallery/..._Work&start=78

That starts the installation sequence on the grill we bought.

Sorry to hit and run, but I have to go fuel and get gone...

L8R

Skip

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Tom,

Our grill is a "BBQ Grillware" Same as Skip's--he and I corresponded
about it some months ago. We bought it at Lowe's for about $75. Skip
indicates he paid $98 for the grill. Maybe mine was on sale. It is
stainless steel, rectangular, measures about 12"X20". I attached 2
spring clips to the rear bottom of the grill that I clip on to the
stern rail. I drilled holes in the ends of the spring clips so I
could put hairpin clips to secure them to the rail. Spring clips are
commonly used to hold poles or rods of various kinds to walls,
ceilings, etc. Available in stainless at Lowes in their limited
boating supplies display. I have attached a strut to the front center
bottom of the grill that is also attached to the bottom of a
stanchion. This part can simply be a piece of flat stock long enough
to reach from the bottom of the grill to the bottom of a stanchion,
you could use an angle of some kind to attach it to the grill and
maybe a hose clamp along with a bolt to hold the bottom of the strut
to the stanchion. My strut is made from a piece of stainless tubing
because that's what I had available. This provides 3 points of
support. If you can't mount the grill over a stanchion, you could run
the strut down to some point on the coaming. Basically, you want to
attach the grill to the rail and support the front of the grill to
keep it from swinging down. We have left the grill in position in
fairly rough seas with no mishap. According to Skip's pix, he adapted
Magma mounting hardware to mount his. Skip says his mounting system
cost $60 some odd. Mine cost less than $15. It's probably not as
elegant or professional as his and perhaps a bit less convenient. I
will try to take pix tomorrow and post somewhere.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Peter ,, thanks for the info. I went to Lowes yesterday. And, I looked at
the grill you bought.

I was holding it upside down, etc and along comes the salesclerk. She looks
at me like I am a NUT.

Then I told her I was looking to use it on my boat. So,,, then the both of
us are holding it upside down etc.


It is a good one .. no doubt about that. But ... it won't work on my boat
because I don't have enough room.

I need a smaller grill. I will probably buy a Magma 2. That is if I can
find one cheap on ebay.

Thanks for taking the time to write. I'm sure someone else here will use
your info for "their" new grill.

That is why we lurk ... knowledge and fraternity.


=================
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Tom,

Our grill is a "BBQ Grillware" Same as Skip's--he and I corresponded
about it some months ago. We bought it at Lowe's for about $75. Skip
indicates he paid $98 for the grill. Maybe mine was on sale. It is
stainless steel, rectangular, measures about 12"X20". I attached 2
spring clips to the rear bottom of the grill that I clip on to the
stern rail. I drilled holes in the ends of the spring clips so I
could put hairpin clips to secure them to the rail. Spring clips are
commonly used to hold poles or rods of various kinds to walls,
ceilings, etc. Available in stainless at Lowes in their limited
boating supplies display. I have attached a strut to the front center
bottom of the grill that is also attached to the bottom of a
stanchion. This part can simply be a piece of flat stock long enough
to reach from the bottom of the grill to the bottom of a stanchion,
you could use an angle of some kind to attach it to the grill and
maybe a hose clamp along with a bolt to hold the bottom of the strut
to the stanchion. My strut is made from a piece of stainless tubing
because that's what I had available. This provides 3 points of
support. If you can't mount the grill over a stanchion, you could run
the strut down to some point on the coaming. Basically, you want to
attach the grill to the rail and support the front of the grill to
keep it from swinging down. We have left the grill in position in
fairly rough seas with no mishap. According to Skip's pix, he adapted
Magma mounting hardware to mount his. Skip says his mounting system
cost $60 some odd. Mine cost less than $15. It's probably not as
elegant or professional as his and perhaps a bit less convenient. I
will try to take pix tomorrow and post somewhere.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 26, 4:31 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
grill.

That is why we lurk ... knowledge and fraternity.

================="Peter" wrote in message


My dear lurking reader:

I am not certain the type or size of your boat. However, I want you to
consider very seriously about having a "Bar-B-Q" bolted to a 1" rail
on your boat. They look wonderful in thoes glossy WM pages. Everyone
smiling, laughing with an expensive glass of wine in one hand all cozy
in the cockpit of a sailboat. Ask a fire fighter why thoes things are
a hazard. Or you could ask my friend Mark. He had one. Could not get
his propane tank one filled one weekend so he used one of those qt.
spin-on cans. He cooked away and ran out of gas. Screwed the empty one
off but the valve stuck open spraying the gass everywhere. An ignition
source did the rest. Poof!. Mark was left with 10% third degree burns
to face-neck-chest.

I have two other boat grill stories if you want. neiter as serious
but...... close! Think buring kids......

Flames on boats................ Bad!

You want to burn a bird or some beef. Do it on the dock or the beech.
Flames on boat bad!

BOb

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Bob wrote:
On Feb 26, 4:31 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
grill.
That is why we lurk ... knowledge and fraternity.

================="Peter" wrote in message


My dear lurking reader:

I am not certain the type or size of your boat. However, I want you to
consider very seriously about having a "Bar-B-Q" bolted to a 1" rail
on your boat. They look wonderful in thoes glossy WM pages. Everyone
smiling, laughing with an expensive glass of wine in one hand all cozy
in the cockpit of a sailboat. Ask a fire fighter why thoes things are
a hazard. Or you could ask my friend Mark. He had one. Could not get
his propane tank one filled one weekend so he used one of those qt.
spin-on cans. He cooked away and ran out of gas. Screwed the empty one
off but the valve stuck open spraying the gass everywhere. An ignition
source did the rest. Poof!. Mark was left with 10% third degree burns
to face-neck-chest.

I have two other boat grill stories if you want. neiter as serious
but...... close! Think buring kids......

Flames on boats................ Bad!

You want to burn a bird or some beef. Do it on the dock or the beech.
Flames on boat bad!

BOb





shouldn't that be beach?

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

"Bob" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 26, 4:31 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
grill.

That is why we lurk ... knowledge and fraternity.

================="Peter" wrote in message


My dear lurking reader:

I am not certain the type or size of your boat. However, I want you to
consider very seriously about having a "Bar-B-Q" bolted to a 1" rail
on your boat. They look wonderful in thoes glossy WM pages. Everyone
smiling, laughing with an expensive glass of wine in one hand all cozy
in the cockpit of a sailboat. Ask a fire fighter why thoes things are
a hazard. Or you could ask my friend Mark. He had one. Could not get
his propane tank one filled one weekend so he used one of those qt.
spin-on cans. He cooked away and ran out of gas. Screwed the empty one
off but the valve stuck open spraying the gass everywhere. An ignition
source did the rest. Poof!. Mark was left with 10% third degree burns
to face-neck-chest.

I have two other boat grill stories if you want. neiter as serious
but...... close! Think buring kids......

Flames on boats................ Bad!

You want to burn a bird or some beef. Do it on the dock or the beech.
Flames on boat bad!

BOb
================================================== ==

Bob ,, I've had a grill on two other boats and had no problems. Not propane
though. Charcoal grill that swung out over the water.

Do you think the charcoal grills are safer? I have one on my sailboat and
when I use it, I swing it out away from the hull.

Are you saying that "any" grill is dangerous, or is it the propane that is
the danger?

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:

Flames on boats................ Bad!
BOb

Bob ,, I've had a grill on two other boats and had no problems. Not propane
though. Charcoal grill that swung out over the water.

Do you think the charcoal grills are safer? I have one on my sailboat and
when I use it, I swing it out away from the hull.

Are you saying that "any" grill is dangerous, or is it the propane that is
the danger?


Hi:

Excellent percepton check. is it the gass or any grill........
There are many ways to get people about on the water. Just depends on
your philosophy and what a person hopes to accomplish. The great
debate at alt,sailing .asa is how to attach anchor chain to the boat.
Of course the thread wondered to anchors and anchoring. Every body had
extreamly strong opinions on the "proper" equipment and methods. The
intersting thing is that non of the idiots ever stoped to ask: what
type of boat, size, loction etc. They just started blabing opinions.

The same holds true here. What size boat, what kind of sailing/
motoring, where, who else on board etc. One of the more safe grills I
stood next to was the clasic GOM (Gulf Of Mexico) deck grill: 55
gallon drum welded to 1/4" angle iron that was welded to the deck of
220' OSV. But even that caused injury when the boat rolled underway
and the cook fell into it. Burnt both palms badly. Off to the beach he
went leaving his finger prints behind.

THis is how I think about grills and boats...... go and buy the grill
of your dreams. Put it in the back of the mini van. Add 2-3 half drunk
adults, and a dog. Oh, you dont have one??? What about the guy a few
slips down. You know, the big friendly type that all owners say " dont
worry he would never hurt anybody" and then the mut jumps up knocking
**** all over the place. I lost a set of Snap-On wrenches over the
side by a friendly mut that way. Back to the mini van anology. Now
dont forget the 2-3 kids. Now go for a drive down the road at 60 mph.
Sound pretty rediculous, no?

Then why do the same thing on a cramped boat (anything less than 60')
that moves especically when that other idiot goes zooming by leaving a
wake large enough to surf. My personal opinion is too many "accedents"
can happen. Ever see the movie titled "Final Destination 2"?

Take it to the beach. Do it on the dock. When the dog knocks it over
no big deal.
Grills are great......in the back yard next to the lawn mower.

Flames on boat bad.
Bob

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Bob,,, I like your "safety first" approach. You are right on, when it
looks like nothing can go wrong ...........................

I will take another closer look at the whole issue.

The expense ,, $200 dollars or so ,, for a Magma grill .. that has me
thinking as well.

========





"Bob" wrote in message
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On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:

Flames on boats................ Bad!
BOb

Bob ,, I've had a grill on two other boats and had no problems. Not
propane
though. Charcoal grill that swung out over the water.

Do you think the charcoal grills are safer? I have one on my sailboat
and
when I use it, I swing it out away from the hull.

Are you saying that "any" grill is dangerous, or is it the propane that
is
the danger?


Hi:

Excellent percepton check. is it the gass or any grill........
There are many ways to get people about on the water. Just depends on
your philosophy and what a person hopes to accomplish. The great
debate at alt,sailing .asa is how to attach anchor chain to the boat.
Of course the thread wondered to anchors and anchoring. Every body had
extreamly strong opinions on the "proper" equipment and methods. The
intersting thing is that non of the idiots ever stoped to ask: what
type of boat, size, loction etc. They just started blabing opinions.

The same holds true here. What size boat, what kind of sailing/
motoring, where, who else on board etc. One of the more safe grills I
stood next to was the clasic GOM (Gulf Of Mexico) deck grill: 55
gallon drum welded to 1/4" angle iron that was welded to the deck of
220' OSV. But even that caused injury when the boat rolled underway
and the cook fell into it. Burnt both palms badly. Off to the beach he
went leaving his finger prints behind.

THis is how I think about grills and boats...... go and buy the grill
of your dreams. Put it in the back of the mini van. Add 2-3 half drunk
adults, and a dog. Oh, you dont have one??? What about the guy a few
slips down. You know, the big friendly type that all owners say " dont
worry he would never hurt anybody" and then the mut jumps up knocking
**** all over the place. I lost a set of Snap-On wrenches over the
side by a friendly mut that way. Back to the mini van anology. Now
dont forget the 2-3 kids. Now go for a drive down the road at 60 mph.
Sound pretty rediculous, no?

Then why do the same thing on a cramped boat (anything less than 60')
that moves especically when that other idiot goes zooming by leaving a
wake large enough to surf. My personal opinion is too many "accedents"
can happen. Ever see the movie titled "Final Destination 2"?

Take it to the beach. Do it on the dock. When the dog knocks it over
no big deal.
Grills are great......in the back yard next to the lawn mower.

Flames on boat bad.
Bob

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 27, 5:29 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Bob,,, I like your "safety first" approach. You are right on, when it
looks like nothing can go wrong ...........................

I will take another closer look at the whole issue.

The expense ,, $200 dollars or so ,, for a Magma grill .. that has me
thinking as well.

Hi
Dont take me too seriously. I enjoy burnt veggies and grilled meat
with a good Merlot ($6.50/bottle) along with every one else. I think
its one of thoes personal touches every owner will make. My friend
Mark's story really opened my eyes. And at the time my daughter was an
early teen. When I took her and friends sailing I did not want to
spend my time yelling at them to keep them safe so I just started
"teen proofing" my boat/house/yard/life/etc.

Becuse of the type of boating now do I removed the grill cause 1) my
friend Mark's event and 2) it would most likly get ripped off the back
rail by a wave. I am generally a "stone age" sailor. No refegeration.
hand pump freshwater water from a tank, ability to live with a 400 ah
house bank with maybe a weekly charge when out. Solar panels to come
soon. But I expect fully to get flamed on this philosophy.

But please talk to a fire fighter that also
sails.......................................... see what they have to
say about flames on a boat.

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

"Bob" wrote in message
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On Feb 27, 5:29 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Bob,,, I like your "safety first" approach. You are right on, when it
looks like nothing can go wrong ...........................

I will take another closer look at the whole issue.

The expense ,, $200 dollars or so ,, for a Magma grill .. that has me
thinking as well.

Hi
Dont take me too seriously. I enjoy burnt veggies and grilled meat
with a good Merlot ($6.50/bottle) along with every one else. I think
its one of thoes personal touches every owner will make. My friend
Mark's story really opened my eyes. And at the time my daughter was an
early teen. When I took her and friends sailing I did not want to
spend my time yelling at them to keep them safe so I just started
"teen proofing" my boat/house/yard/life/etc.

Becuse of the type of boating now do I removed the grill cause 1) my
friend Mark's event and 2) it would most likly get ripped off the back
rail by a wave. I am generally a "stone age" sailor. No refegeration.
hand pump freshwater water from a tank, ability to live with a 400 ah
house bank with maybe a weekly charge when out. Solar panels to come
soon. But I expect fully to get flamed on this philosophy.

But please talk to a fire fighter that also
sails.......................................... see what they have to
say about flames on a boat.




So how do you cook, Bob? MRE's with heatpacks? Can't be an electric stove,
so there's gotta be a flame-producing stove on that boat somewhere, unless
you live on raw food and unheated canned goods.

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 27, 8:55 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
So how do you cook, Bob? MRE's with heatpacks? Can't be an electric stove,
so there's gotta be a flame-producing stove on that boat somewhere, unless
you live on raw food and unheated canned goods.- Hide quoted text -


Hi: Reasonable question. I do have a two burner propane stove on
board.But how do I cook? These last few years Ive lived at about N45.
At the slip I use my microwave 99% of the time. On the water my meals
are "simple" that require cooking about every 4th day. When in the
warmer climes N30 and below I rarely cook with a stove. No I dont eat
MRE or chew on cans. I eat very tasty meals. It is possible. Ask your
self how do all the poor people in the world eat when refergeration is
not possible, wood an fuel are scarce or too expensive for cooking?

How do they survive????

Back to the Future Bob

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"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 8:55 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
So how do you cook, Bob? MRE's with heatpacks? Can't be an electric
stove,
so there's gotta be a flame-producing stove on that boat somewhere,
unless
you live on raw food and unheated canned goods.- Hide quoted text -


Hi: Reasonable question. I do have a two burner propane stove on
board.But how do I cook? These last few years Ive lived at about N45.
At the slip I use my microwave 99% of the time. On the water my meals
are "simple" that require cooking about every 4th day. When in the
warmer climes N30 and below I rarely cook with a stove. No I dont eat
MRE or chew on cans. I eat very tasty meals. It is possible. Ask your
self how do all the poor people in the world eat when refergeration is
not possible, wood an fuel are scarce or too expensive for cooking?

How do they survive????

Back to the Future Bob


They eat raw coconut worms or starve, that's what. lol

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

On Feb 27, 9:18 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:

He's a Marine Iguana. He eats raw food and then lays on his belly atop
a sun heated rock to cook it.

Damn.... just about right!

As im sitting here munching on some walnuts and raisins and about to
wash it down with some soy juice. Zero refergeration.... Zero flames.
Food is fun but in the end its just a calorie source.

Humm, maybe I'll open up that pickled fish I made 2 weeks ago.

Dont get me wrong. Living in a cave knawing on a raw bone is not fun.
But neither is sailing port to port fixing systems that break. Not my
idea of a sailing vacation. KISS.

Oh, but maybe those Navy SEALs in the chartered sailboat (SBT 20) you
spotted this morning could give you a hand fixing your refegeration.
What is with that?!?!?!?

Bob

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 27, 9:18 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:

He's a Marine Iguana. He eats raw food and then lays on his belly atop
a sun heated rock to cook it.

Damn.... just about right!

As im sitting here munching on some walnuts and raisins and about to
wash it down with some soy juice. Zero refergeration.... Zero flames.
Food is fun but in the end its just a calorie source.

Humm, maybe I'll open up that pickled fish I made 2 weeks ago.

Dont get me wrong. Living in a cave knawing on a raw bone is not fun.
But neither is sailing port to port fixing systems that break. Not my
idea of a sailing vacation. KISS.

Oh, but maybe those Navy SEALs in the chartered sailboat (SBT 20) you
spotted this morning could give you a hand fixing your refegeration.
What is with that?!?!?!?

Bob

Bob, I'm with you on the "no refrigeration" part. Too much time and effort
for too little return in my book, on my boat. But no stove? Sorry, but
"NOPE!" How am I to cook beans, rice, grits, oatmeal and pasta with no
stove? A solar oven? I'm not talking about "hooked to shore power," I'm
talking about out there sailing, or on the hook.

Best Grill for sailboat ??
 

Bob, I'm with you on the "no refrigeration" part. Too much time and effort
for too little return in my book, on my boat. But no stove? Sorry, but
"NOPE!" How am I to cook beans, rice, grits, oatmeal and pasta with no
stove? A solar oven? I'm not talking about "hooked to shore power," I'm
talking about out there sailing, or on the hook.- Hide quoted text -

Yes absolutly agree about the stove in the galley a necessity. What
would I do with out my morning steamy oats? Sun tea is a good cafine
source. I guess I just harbor an off the stern grill prejudice on
sailboats. For me the cockpit is just "too" cramped and cluttered with
"too" much activity/foot traffice for cooking.

Time to go chew on a head of cabbage

=:3