"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:30:21 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
said:


Would you care to enumerate those reasons? Bad cops remain bad cops only
because the public doesn't speak up.

Let's just say that I've seen enough of these lawsuits brought on
"principle" to know that the plaintiff's enthusiasm seldom survives the
second bill from his lawyer.

This really isn't a matter of "principle," it's a matter of a government
official knowingly and deliberately violating the law. Repeatedly. Because
he can "get away with it."

I'd go the "you tube" route. Next time this asshole shows up .. film him in
action.

Post it ,,

Tell the local tv station about the posting ..


Seems to work quite often.


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:30:21 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
said:


Would you care to enumerate those reasons? Bad cops remain bad cops only
because the public doesn't speak up.

Let's just say that I've seen enough of these lawsuits brought on
"principle" to know that the plaintiff's enthusiasm seldom survives the
second bill from his lawyer.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:12:28 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
said:

This really isn't a matter of "principle," it's a matter of a government
official knowingly and deliberately violating the law. Repeatedly. Because
he can "get away with it."

Hey, climb up on Rocinante and have a go at it. I heard there's a fella
named Sancho who's looking for a job.

Doesn't seem like much of a windmill to me.

On 21 Feb 2007 16:44:06 -0600, Dave wrote:

Remember, however, that you're an
outsider, not a local. The dynamics may be very different.

Yes, that's always a risk. This bozo may turn out be a cousin of the
governor's wife or some other politically incestuous relationship.
Still, if enough people make waves, something good might come of it.
And if no one makes waves, it is guaranteed that nothing will change.
You just have to take a chance that the system can be made to work
sometimes.

It is also a fact that it is much cheaper to initiate a lawsuit than
it is to defend.

"Keith" wrote in news:1172058887.793887.215510
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

Unfortunately we do not have any
control over
county or state law enforcement officials.


Nonsense. Find out who bribes the state politicians with "campaign money"
and simply turn off the tap until this joker has been sent packing. Start
a letter writing campaign to your state politicians and ask them,
pointedly, how you should vote in the next election.....

Larry
--
Vista has been out a week.
Is Service Pack 1 ready yet?

Wayne.B wrote in
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Yes, that's always a risk. This bozo may turn out be a cousin of the
governor's wife or some other politically incestuous relationship.
Still, if enough people make waves, something good might come of it.
And if no one makes waves, it is guaranteed that nothing will change.
You just have to take a chance that the system can be made to work
sometimes.



Wrong email with YouTube URL.....Send it to the Venice Chamber of Commerce,
where the real power of the throne in any city resides. "Here's why we're
never coming back to Venice, FL, and are telling everyone we see: (youtube
url here).



Larry
--
Vista has been out a week.
Is Service Pack 1 ready yet?

Here's some good contact information:
_______________________________
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is a creature of
the
Florida Constitution. It does not report directly to the Governor,
but has
its own executive powers. You can learn about the FWC at:

http://myfwc.com/

There are a list of contact possibilities at:

http://myfwc.com/Contact/


Perhaps most promising is a specific place to file a complaint about
an
employee. The guy causing all the problems was identified by name
yesterday
I believe. Go to the following place to file a complaint concerning
his
actions:

http://myfwc.com/IG/complaint_form.htm

While a single compliant probably won't have much impact, if those
with
experiences do take the time to complain at the correct spot, the
shear
numbers would require some investigation and, if appropriate, change
in the
way things are being done.

I still say a good video camera is the best weapon against bad cops. Take a
look at some of the recent cases.

Just the other night a cop was shown pulling a young lady out of her car and
slamming her on the ground, pulling her by her hair .. etc.

This was for a "speeding ticket".

Keep a video camera at the ready. If every boat in Venice, FL had one
onboard, and kept a watch out for this rogue cop.
His behavior will take care of the rest. Just make sure whenever you see
him that you wave your camera at him.

Tell the local authorities that you all are watching him.

Just that alone should be enough to get him a desk,,, in the cellar of the
office.


No police department wants to see their job embarrassed by a dope.

Most boats ,, homes, just about everyone has a video camera ... time to use
it.


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"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com...
Here's some good contact information:
_______________________________
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is a creature of
the
Florida Constitution. It does not report directly to the Governor,
but has
its own executive powers. You can learn about the FWC at:

http://myfwc.com/

There are a list of contact possibilities at:

http://myfwc.com/Contact/


Perhaps most promising is a specific place to file a complaint about
an
employee. The guy causing all the problems was identified by name
yesterday
I believe. Go to the following place to file a complaint concerning
his
actions:

http://myfwc.com/IG/complaint_form.htm

While a single compliant probably won't have much impact, if those
with
experiences do take the time to complain at the correct spot, the
shear
numbers would require some investigation and, if appropriate, change
in the
way things are being done.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:55:25 -0500, Wayne.B
said:

It is also a fact that it is much cheaper to initiate a lawsuit than
it is to defend.

What is the basis for that conclusion? Do you really think any half way
capable lawyer would take a suit like that on a contingency? Not likely.

File in Small Claims Court. No lawyers allowed.

On 22 Feb 2007 09:22:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

It is also a fact that it is much cheaper to initiate a lawsuit than
it is to defend.

What is the basis for that conclusion?

Filing a suit is almost a rubber stamp process for someone who knows
what they are doing. The chance of success is immaterial in this
particular instance since its primary goal is issue recognition. I
believe it can be done by anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the
process. There are self help web sites available that are applicable
to many venues.