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[email protected] February 3rd 07 08:51 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.



KLC Lewis February 3rd 07 09:00 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 

" wrote in message
t...
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.


Pretty good chance, yes. See your GP about the "TransDerm Scop" scopolamine
patch. I find that strong ginger drinks like Reed's Ginger Ale help, too.



Don White February 3rd 07 10:14 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 

" wrote in message
t...
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.

I'd say you'd be more likely.
I've taken day long bus trips and 5 day train trips and end up feeling a
bit off.
On a boat under the right conditions I can be woosy within an hour and
upchucking by the time another hour passes.
If I'm at the helm I can usually fight it off.



Jere Lull February 3rd 07 11:32 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
In article ,
" wrote:

I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.


Might happen, but as another said, the helmsman is usually somewhat
protected. Additionally, experience usually adds some protection, as the
"unpredicted" motions can become usual and expected.

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Stephen Trapani February 4th 07 06:55 AM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
Jere Lull wrote:

In article ,
" wrote:


I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.



Might happen, but as another said, the helmsman is usually somewhat
protected. Additionally, experience usually adds some protection, as the
"unpredicted" motions can become usual and expected.


If you're at sea for a week or two straight most people will adjust and
not get sick anymore, right?

Whereas, in my youth when I used to do lots of ocean sailing, I had lots
of experience, but it was all day sailing or weekend sailing so by the
time I got back on the ocean after a few weeks on land, I'd get sick all
over again even with all the prior experience.

Stephen

Dennis Pogson February 4th 07 09:32 AM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
wrote:
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it
winterized for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the
NYC boat show, with a boating club group. I felt very weezy and
almost had nausia from the bus motions. I've never been in a small
boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion sickness similar to
seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver, not passenger.


Stugeron is quite good. Root ginger, if you can stand chewing the stuff, is
better. Staying at sea for a week or two is the best of all, but expensive
if you are a working guy!



Tcamperman February 4th 07 01:02 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
On Feb 3, 3:51 pm, "
wrote:
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.


John,...
I am a serious believer in the SeaBand bracelets. I find that it will
do a credable job without the unpleasant side affects of other
remedies. We had a couple on my boat for the day...she could get
nauseous just looking at a bus, let alone a boat. We were out for the
entire day which she enjoyed totally. At the end of the day, she told
me she had never been on a boat even for a short period of time
without getting sick.

These bracelets can be bought at most drug stores...look where they
sell dramamine, etc.

The big advantage to using these a 1. No prescription needed. (as
opposed to Scopomine patches) plus there is no unpleasant metallic
taste like the patches produce. 2. They usually cost about $9. but
can be used over and over again. 3. You do not have to "take" them in
advance. If it's going to be a bumpy day or you suspect someone is
susceptible, just let them slip the bracelets on when they come
aboard. 4. They don't make you sleepy like dramamine and some of the
other drug-type remedies.

Anyway, try a pair and see what they do for you.

Tom
MV "WINGS"




William Longyard February 4th 07 04:00 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
John,

Do you get carsick? If not, you are probably not prone to motion
sickness. I got sick on a bus trip once (only about a 45 minute trip). I
came to realize that it was due to a combination of factors. Firstly, I was
slightly dehydrated. This is a Big contributor to motion sickness.
Secondly, I sat near the rear of the bus and it is the rear of the bus that
moves the most, due to the solid rear axle.
I believe, also, that a contributing factor is the fact that it is quite
possible to feel claustrophobic on a bus, due to sitting in a long, narrow
box with typically one entrance/exit at the extreme end of the box.
Compounding that is the fact that you are not at the wheel.
Chances are very good that at the helm of your own boat out on the open
water you'll be okay. Especially once you get used to it.
You may want to acclimatize yourself to waterborne travel by kayaking
for a while.

Good luck,
Bill Longyard



Jack Dale February 4th 07 05:54 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 

" wrote in message
t...
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.


Regardless of what medications you plan to use, try them long before you set
foot on a boat. Each seems to have a different side effect on different
folks. As an example, many people claim that Stugeron has liitle effect.
One of my clients used Stugeron and it knocked her right out; she slept most
of the time.

Jack


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__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________



Gordon Wedman February 5th 07 11:55 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 

"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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" wrote in message
t...
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it
winterized for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC
boat show, with a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had
nausia from the bus motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but
wonder is bus motion sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm
used to being the driver, not passenger.


Regardless of what medications you plan to use, try them long before you
set foot on a boat. Each seems to have a different side effect on
different folks. As an example, many people claim that Stugeron has
liitle effect. One of my clients used Stugeron and it knocked her right
out; she slept most of the time.

Jack


--
__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________


Yes, and TransDermScope (scopolamine) also has nasty side effects including
dry mouth, burning sensation in mouth and dizziness. Personal experience.

Regarding riding on the bus, one test would be to try reading a book while
sitting in a car someone is driving. Winding roads are best. If you don't
feel bad you may be OK.



Steve Thrasher February 6th 07 03:10 AM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
Gordon Wedman wrote:

Yes, and TransDermScope (scopolamine) also has nasty side effects including
dry mouth, burning sensation in mouth and dizziness. Personal experience.


Dunno if it's true, we got some but never used it, but our family Dr.
said to be careful of getting the drug (scopolamine?) into your eye. He
wrote a Rx for us for something that we had filled at a pharmacy. As to
the side effects, he said it would cause the pupil to dilate and it
would take several days for the effects to wear off.

AMPowers February 6th 07 12:06 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
John,

As to your question, I think you will hear a lot of anecdotal evidence,
but the factors contributing to seasickness have many components. Some
of the best ways to avoid it are being well rested, eating lightly but
sufficiently, staying hydrated, avoiding greasy or spicy foods,
refraining from alcohol (or any other recreational drugs), avoiding
noxious vapors such as engine exhaust, not smoking, staying warm and
dry, getting plenty of fresh air and staying above decks. Having a
clear view of the horizon, and a stint at the helm is also prudent.
Another significant factor (some claim the most important) is your frame
of mind - people can worry or scare themselves seasick.

For me, I'm always a bit queasy the first few days out on a passage. I
find that if I can do all of the above, and get plenty of rest, I'm fine
after about the first 36 hours. The first twelve are the worst,
symptomatically, with things improving quickly after that. I don't tend
to get sick when sailing around the bay or doing short trips, but I will
get sick if I read while in a moving vehicle, or on a bus that isn't
well ventilated.

My friends that do get seasick on even flat seas use the Scopalamine
transderm patches (need a prescription) with excellent success. I've
also used these when making rough ferry crossing in Mexico and thought
they worked well, but you want to start them about 8 to 12 hours
beforehand. In the past (when overseas) I've also used Sturgeron (which
can be bought over the counter everywhere but in the US), also with good
effect, but you may want to investigate this drug as there are some
(including the FDA) that would disagree with its use.

As to the particular type of motion that causes seasickness, there was
an excellent, somewhat technical, article in "Latitude 38" a few months
back about this, but I've been unable to find it online and have since
thrown out the issue. You might try going through some back issues, if
you find it please post the date of the article, I'd like to reread it.
The claim was that there are specific frequency and types of motion
that creates the greatest chance of getting ill, regardless of the vehicle.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,


Robb



wrote:
I bought a 24' cabin in late fall '06 and never used it - had it winterized
for spring '07. Took a bus trip from Connecticut to the NYC boat show, with
a boating club group. I felt very weezy and almost had nausia from the bus
motions. I've never been in a small boat in waves, but wonder is bus motion
sickness similar to seasickness? In vehicles, I'm used to being the driver,
not passenger.



Bill Kearney February 6th 07 04:01 PM

If I get "bus sick" will I get seasick?
 
If I'm at the helm I can usually fight it off.

Same deal here. When in the cabin underway I'm less than comfortable, not
quite seasick but there's definitely an onset of nausea. Not nearly as bad
but somewhat similar if I'm sitting in the aft cockpit not looking out at
the horizon. But I'm usually the one running the boat so it's never really
been an issue.



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