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[email protected] January 26th 07 07:51 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Well, even here in Hawaii it's winter and while we are working hard on
chuffing the cruising kitty we are also dreaming about the next voyage.
Among the candidates is a passage leaving here Mayish and arriving
somewhere between Ketchikan and Seattle late May or early June. This
is an area of the world which I have no experience in and I'm
soliciting general advise. I'm particularly curious about the
specifics of entering Canada from the US on a US documented,
non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I presume that we could do
it the usual way and get a port clearance from here to a major customs
port in Canada. However, particularly in the Vancouver Island area it
seems like one would have to sail past a lot of good looking cruising
grounds to get to a customs port. A fellow cruiser told me that a
friend of his had been allowed to check in someplace around Quatsino
Sound (maybe Winter Hbr?)... Can this have been legal?

-- Tom.


mr.b January 26th 07 08:32 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:51:45 -0800, wrote:

I'm particularly curious about the specifics of entering Canada from the
US on a US documented, non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I
presume that we could do it the usual way and get a port clearance from
here to a major customs port in Canada.


And you would presume incorrectly. Since 9/11 the Canadian government has
spent millions of dollars beefing up security at the border. Concern
about lax Customs procedures in the US that allowed the terrorists to so
easily enter the US has been the driving force behind these initiatives.
All visitors from the US must now present a valid passport, submit to
mandatory fingerprinting and provide letters of reference from at least 3
baptist ministers (only 1 if from the SCLC) attesting to the following:

1) you have never, ever ordered a falafel
2) you don't know what tahini is and
3) you like both kinds of music i.e., country and western

Don White January 26th 07 09:09 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 

"mr.b" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:51:45 -0800, wrote:

I'm particularly curious about the specifics of entering Canada from the
US on a US documented, non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I
presume that we could do it the usual way and get a port clearance from
here to a major customs port in Canada.


And you would presume incorrectly. Since 9/11 the Canadian government has
spent millions of dollars beefing up security at the border. Concern
about lax Customs procedures in the US that allowed the terrorists to so
easily enter the US has been the driving force behind these initiatives.
All visitors from the US must now present a valid passport, submit to
mandatory fingerprinting and provide letters of reference from at least 3
baptist ministers (only 1 if from the SCLC) attesting to the following:

1) you have never, ever ordered a falafel
2) you don't know what tahini is and
3) you like both kinds of music i.e., country and western


Yeah right! As long as you bring lots of yankee dollars, you're welcome in
Canada. Going back home will be the problem.



Corsair23 January 26th 07 09:47 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Stay in the US , and you'll have NO problems. Come here, and you'll go
through more **** than you can handle on the way back home.
We dont need you here, in the land of supposed" Terrorist Training
Grounds".

On Jan 26, 4:09 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"mr.b" wrote in .. .





On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:51:45 -0800, wrote:


I'm particularly curious about the specifics of entering Canada from the
US on a US documented, non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I
presume that we could do it the usual way and get a port clearance from
here to a major customs port in Canada.


And you would presume incorrectly. Since 9/11 the Canadian government has
spent millions of dollars beefing up security at the border. Concern
about lax Customs procedures in the US that allowed the terrorists to so
easily enter the US has been the driving force behind these initiatives.
All visitors from the US must now present a valid passport, submit to
mandatory fingerprinting and provide letters of reference from at least 3
baptist ministers (only 1 if from the SCLC) attesting to the following:


1) you have never, ever ordered a falafel
2) you don't know what tahini is and
3) you like both kinds of music i.e., country and westernYeah right! As long as you bring lots of yankee dollars, you're welcome in

Canada. Going back home will be the problem.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



Dry 1 January 26th 07 10:56 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Knot no way keep cruising to Canada the B.C. BUD is out of this world and Canadian Customs will share.

Corsair23 wrote:

Stay in the US , and you'll have NO problems. Come here, and you'll go
through more **** than you can handle on the way back home.
We dont need you here, in the land of supposed" Terrorist Training
Grounds".

On Jan 26, 4:09 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"mr.b" wrote in .. .





On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:51:45 -0800, wrote:


I'm particularly curious about the specifics of entering Canada from the
US on a US documented, non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I
presume that we could do it the usual way and get a port clearance from
here to a major customs port in Canada.


And you would presume incorrectly. Since 9/11 the Canadian government has
spent millions of dollars beefing up security at the border. Concern
about lax Customs procedures in the US that allowed the terrorists to so
easily enter the US has been the driving force behind these initiatives.
All visitors from the US must now present a valid passport, submit to
mandatory fingerprinting and provide letters of reference from at least 3
baptist ministers (only 1 if from the SCLC) attesting to the following:


1) you have never, ever ordered a falafel
2) you don't know what tahini is and
3) you like both kinds of music i.e., country and westernYeah right! As long as you bring lots of yankee dollars, you're welcome in

Canada. Going back home will be the problem.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



Don White January 26th 07 11:43 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 

"Corsair23" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stay in the US , and you'll have NO problems. Come here, and you'll go
through more **** than you can handle on the way back home.
We dont need you here, in the land of supposed" Terrorist Training
Grounds".


Huh?
Better not let the tourism folks hear you talkin that s*it.
Down here they're always crying about the reduced number of 'merican
visitors since 9/11.
You'd think the sky was falling.



[email protected] January 27th 07 12:07 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
You must have reached rec boat goofball/douche bag anonymous with those
responses.
Check Canada Border services on-line.


Corsair23 January 27th 07 12:24 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
That response sent to you by rec.asswipe douchebag g-mail user// it
figures

(please insert boat name here), and I'll let them know your coming, and
what to look for.....

On Jan 26, 7:07 pm, wrote:
You must have reached rec boat goofball/douche bag anonymous with those
responses.
Check Canada Border services on-line.



[email protected] January 27th 07 01:22 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Check Canada Border services on-line.

Thanks. With that I found
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/l...xtype39-e.html.
Which looks like a good place to start.

-- Tom.


Jack Dale January 27th 07 04:35 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
The North Island's Canada Customs station operated out of Quatsino until
1974. The Customs House is now a private fishing lodge. It appears that
clearing customs on the West Side of the Island is difficult if not
impossible. Winter Harbour does not have a customs dock. The list posted
earlier will work, but it seems that you have to go to Victoria. A
circumnavigation of the Island is an great experience, if you want to give
it a try, I can give you some pointers. I did it twice last year. Three
are scheduled for this year.

Jack


--
__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________



wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, even here in Hawaii it's winter and while we are working hard on
chuffing the cruising kitty we are also dreaming about the next voyage.
Among the candidates is a passage leaving here Mayish and arriving
somewhere between Ketchikan and Seattle late May or early June. This
is an area of the world which I have no experience in and I'm
soliciting general advise. I'm particularly curious about the
specifics of entering Canada from the US on a US documented,
non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I presume that we could do
it the usual way and get a port clearance from here to a major customs
port in Canada. However, particularly in the Vancouver Island area it
seems like one would have to sail past a lot of good looking cruising
grounds to get to a customs port. A fellow cruiser told me that a
friend of his had been allowed to check in someplace around Quatsino
Sound (maybe Winter Hbr?)... Can this have been legal?

-- Tom.




Jack Dale January 27th 07 04:53 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Here is a map of customs locations:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/l...maps/bc-e.html

Tashis, Gold River Port Alberni are for commercial traffic. All three are
up long inlets.

Jack

"Jack Dale" wrote in message
news:dEAuh.177$Y6.53@edtnps89...
The North Island's Canada Customs station operated out of Quatsino until
1974. The Customs House is now a private fishing lodge. It appears that
clearing customs on the West Side of the Island is difficult if not
impossible. Winter Harbour does not have a customs dock. The list posted
earlier will work, but it seems that you have to go to Victoria. A
circumnavigation of the Island is an great experience, if you want to give
it a try, I can give you some pointers. I did it twice last year. Three
are scheduled for this year.

Jack


--
__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
Director, Swiftsure Sailing Academy
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________



wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, even here in Hawaii it's winter and while we are working hard on
chuffing the cruising kitty we are also dreaming about the next voyage.
Among the candidates is a passage leaving here Mayish and arriving
somewhere between Ketchikan and Seattle late May or early June. This
is an area of the world which I have no experience in and I'm
soliciting general advise. I'm particularly curious about the
specifics of entering Canada from the US on a US documented,
non-commercial boat with two US citizens. I presume that we could do
it the usual way and get a port clearance from here to a major customs
port in Canada. However, particularly in the Vancouver Island area it
seems like one would have to sail past a lot of good looking cruising
grounds to get to a customs port. A fellow cruiser told me that a
friend of his had been allowed to check in someplace around Quatsino
Sound (maybe Winter Hbr?)... Can this have been legal?

-- Tom.






[email protected] January 27th 07 08:48 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
On Jan 26, 6:35 pm, "Jack Dale" wrote:
....
clearing customs on the West Side of the Island is difficult if not
impossible. ... it seems that you have to go to Victoria.


That's too bad, but thanks very much for the info and the map in your
follow up post is just what I was looking for.

A circumnavigation of the Island is an great experience, if you want to give
it a try, I can give you some pointers. I did it twice last year. Three
are scheduled for this year. ....


I'd love to hear any advise you are willing to share. Timing,
navigation, guides, places to see, whatever. I'm starting from scratch
and am happy for any pointers. We're toying with the idea of Honolulu
- Ketchikan - Prince Rupert and down inside or, well, Honolulu -
Victoria and around Vancouver Island and then either home again or down
the coast...

Cheers,

-- Tom.


Stephen Trapani January 27th 07 08:39 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Corsair23 wrote:
Stay in the US , and you'll have NO problems. Come here, and you'll go
through more **** than you can handle on the way back home.
We dont need you here, in the land of supposed" Terrorist Training
Grounds".


Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just fine from
where you are.

Stephen

Howard January 28th 07 12:18 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Try

can.rec.boating

and

http://boating.ncf.ca/

Plenty of stuff on Canada boating here.

Howard

wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:35 pm, "Jack Dale" wrote:
...
clearing customs on the West Side of the Island is difficult if not
impossible. ... it seems that you have to go to Victoria.


That's too bad, but thanks very much for the info and the map in your
follow up post is just what I was looking for.

A circumnavigation of the Island is an great experience, if you want to give
it a try, I can give you some pointers. I did it twice last year. Three
are scheduled for this year. ....


I'd love to hear any advise you are willing to share. Timing,
navigation, guides, places to see, whatever. I'm starting from scratch
and am happy for any pointers. We're toying with the idea of Honolulu
- Ketchikan - Prince Rupert and down inside or, well, Honolulu -
Victoria and around Vancouver Island and then either home again or down
the coast...

Cheers,

-- Tom.


Corsair23 January 29th 07 04:02 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
".Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just
fine from
where you are.

The above is yet one MORE example of American arrogance and ignorance.

Well, if your in the US, YOU guys leach all your natural resources off
US...get it right asswipe...YOU need US more than WE need YOU......

Im wrong, huh? Well if so, why did Bush ask Alberta to increase its
Oil production 5 times....to cover the fact that he has screwed up the
middle east sooooo bad....the oil aint getting out.Your President is a
stupid man, and will pull you ALL down the toilet unless you get rid
of him. HE has created so much anti-American hate, its staggering. If
you refuse to believe this...your heads further up your ass than I
thought.

On Jan 27, 3:39 pm, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Corsair23 wrote:
Stay in the US , and you'll have NO problems. Come here, and you'll go
through more **** than you can handle on the way back home.
We dont need you here, in the land of supposed" Terrorist Training
Grounds".Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just fine from

where you are.

Stephen



Don W January 29th 07 04:19 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 


Corsair23 wrote:
".Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just
fine from
where you are.

The above is yet one MORE example of American arrogance and ignorance.

Well, if your in the US, YOU guys leach all your natural resources off
US...get it right asswipe...YOU need US more than WE need YOU......


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance
and ignorance. Ignore this troll.

Don W.


KLC Lewis January 29th 07 04:23 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 

"Don W" wrote in message
. ..


Corsair23 wrote:
".Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just fine
from
where you are.

The above is yet one MORE example of American arrogance and ignorance.

Well, if your in the US, YOU guys leach all your natural resources off
US...get it right asswipe...YOU need US more than WE need YOU......


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.

Don W.


Nah, we need Canook Oil, they need Yankee Medicine. And it's probably only a
matter of time before the Shrub invades Canada in the name of the "War on
Terror (sic)."



Corsair23 January 29th 07 04:38 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance
and ignorance.

And the drivel above was from a US citisen that cant think for
himself, and has to copy someone elses' line...must be a retired CEO,
or Politician with a "padded ass".
He knows I'm correct, but cant get his head out of his ASS long enough
to realize it.

On Jan 29, 11:23 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Don W" wrote in gy.net...







Corsair23 wrote:
".Yeah you don't need us there because you can leach off us just fine
from
where you are.


The above is yet one MORE example of American arrogance and ignorance.


Well, if your in the US, YOU guys leach all your natural resources off
US...get it right asswipe...YOU need US more than WE need YOU......


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.


Don W.Nah, we need Canook Oil, they need Yankee Medicine. And it's probably only a

matter of time before the Shrub invades Canada in the name of the "War on
Terror (sic)."- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



mr.b January 29th 07 04:41 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:19:01 +0000, Don W wrote:

The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.


Why is his post any more deserving of being ignored than the moron he
responded to? His anger was showing but his points are valid.

Don W January 29th 07 08:10 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
mr.b wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:19:01 +0000, Don W wrote:


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.



Why is his post any more deserving of being ignored than the moron he
responded to? His anger was showing but his points are valid.


Both posters are off-topic for a cruising
newsgroup, and both are non-responsive to the
original poster's request for info on entering
Canada from the Pacific.

Corsair23's posts on the other hand are intended
to create a net argument. That's why he is a
troll and should be ignored. Check the content of
his last three posts and you will see what I mean.

I've already plonked him.

Don W.





mr.b January 29th 07 10:15 PM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:10:56 +0000, Don W wrote:

mr.b wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:19:01 +0000, Don W wrote:


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.



Why is his post any more deserving of being ignored than the moron he
responded to? His anger was showing but his points are valid.


Both posters are off-topic for a cruising newsgroup, and both are
non-responsive to the original poster's request for info on entering
Canada from the Pacific.


fair enough

Corsair23's posts on the other hand are intended to create a net argument.
That's why he is a troll and should be ignored. Check the content of his
last three posts and you will see what I mean.


but the bozo yankee who makes comments about "leaching" (sic) is not a
troll nor intending to create a flame war?
hmmm....

Corsair23 January 30th 07 04:38 AM

Canada? Take off, eh?
 
Exactly! Don White is a dip-****. He obviously wont see this, and
talks like a Limey anyway...using Plonk.

On Jan 29, 5:15 pm, "mr.b" wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:10:56 +0000, Don W wrote:
mr.b wrote:


On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:19:01 +0000, Don W wrote:


The above is a fine example of Canook arrogance and ignorance. Ignore
this troll.


Why is his post any more deserving of being ignored than the moron he
responded to? His anger was showing but his points are valid.


Both posters are off-topic for a cruising newsgroup, and both are
non-responsive to the original poster's request for info on entering
Canada from the Pacific.fair enough


Corsair23's posts on the other hand are intended to create a net argument.
That's why he is a troll and should be ignored. Check the content of his
last three posts and you will see what I mean.but the bozo yankee who makes comments about "leaching" (sic) is not a

troll nor intending to create a flame war?
hmmm....- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -




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