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Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message
from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. I wish our gas dealers would get the same message. It's still 93 cents a liter up here. |
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Gosh, I thought it was just the old supply and demand thing.
"Larry" wrote in message ... Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know:
Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry Boy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now... Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message. bob s/v Eolian Seattle |
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LarryBoy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now... Same in Oregon................ Is it my emagination or is it the west coast "blue states" getting stuck with high prices. Dont forget Hawaii. Oh, I forgot they put a PRICE CAP on their fuel cost. Seems that state thinks their people dont deserve to get screwed by the fuel retailers. Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? Bob |
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In article . com, "Bob" wrote:
LarryBoy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now... Same in Oregon................ Is it my emagination or is it the west coast "blue states" getting stuck with high prices. Dont forget Hawaii. Oh, I forgot they put a PRICE CAP on their fuel cost. Seems that state thinks their people dont deserve to get screwed by the fuel retailers. Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? Bob Fuel companies would quit the business. Sources would dry up and/or fuel would move to the black market. |
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RW Salnick wrote: Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know: Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry Boy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now... Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message. bob s/v Eolian Seattle We paid $2.01 on our way to the Texas coast over the weekend. The lowest we saw anywhere was $1.85. Average around $2.07 probably. Course after the Israeli's nuke the Iranian nuke facilities later this year, the price is going to spike up again. (you heard it here first.) Don W. |
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Is it my emagination or is it the west coast "blue states" getting
stuck with high prices. Dont forget Hawaii. Oh, I forgot they put a PRICE CAP on their fuel cost. Seems that state thinks their people dont deserve to get screwed by the fuel retailers. Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? Bob Well, COSTCO in Hawaii was selling gas at $2.61 last time I bought gas, average prices around the state are much higher. The gas cap was mooted here by the Republican governor very shortly after it took effect. Not sure about the details as I was at sea when it happened. -- Tom. |
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"Don White" wrote in news:yiSth.4922$1x.84078
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca: I wish our gas dealers would get the same message. It's still 93 cents a liter up here. Hey, socialist services like "free" medical care aren't really free. Politicians just move the money around, siphoning off a good percentage for themselves as it flows through their grubby little hands. There are regular companies in Charleston driving every week to Canada to buy hoards of discount prescription drugs that cost an arm and a leg in the States. A friend of mine, who's 85, pays over $US583 for 90 pills of some drug his doctor sells him into buying. The gas is cheaper, but medical service is unobtanium for most Americans from the intense greed....It's a trade off. Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1
@gnus01.u.washington.edu: Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message. Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c; Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the ships. I like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess Oil storage place to show them all the different oil company trucks lined up at 4AM to put the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher prices, of course... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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"Bob" wrote in news:1169686861.276597.271040@
13g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? Bob You don't remember "price controls" put on everything by the socialists in the US Gummit back a few decades? Remember the gas lines? food lines? Scarcity as products were diverted away from price controls to free market areas? Yecch...how soon we forget. Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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Gordon wrote in
: http://www.washingtongasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Well, here's MY answer: http://frybrid.com/ 3 of us with Frybrid diesel cars/trucks banded together to make oil collections/storage/filtering less work and expense. One has a warehouse, one has the filters and pumps, I have the Frybrid stepvan for collections and the time to do it. We've cut back our input because we got over 900 gallons of reserve stacked up in the warehouse. So, we dropped one Chinese restaurant and now only are collecting from 3, not 4. I filled up the 6.2L Diesel Chevy/Union City Body stepvan, today, from our supply drum. It only took 22 gallons in the 32 gallon tank. 32 gallons will run it for weeks. Mileage on vegoil INCREASES over diesel as it's a heavier fuel...more power, too. At our last "company luncheon" of the "French Fried Oil Cartel", at one of our supporting Chinese restaurants, of course, we bantered about buying and installing a 100-250KW V-12 diesel genset at the warehouse, hooked to a bi-directional utility meter the government forces the power company to install. If we add a few more Chinese restaurants to the cartel, and they are VERY willing to give me oil, instead of having to pay some Ecology company to dispose of it, we could be selling SC Electric and Gouge up to 6 MWH of prime 60 Hz AC per day at a tidy profit from the right diesel genset running off "Alternative Fuels". We might even qualify for a Gummit Grant from the money mill to construct it! That would be a kick to accomplish. Fuel is running out our ears! I told George, in whos warehouse it's settling out the particulates in as I type this, if we don't start using more fuel, we'd be spending weekends driving our Frybrids back and forth to Houston to burn off the excess...(c; I'm running my Mercedes cars, a '73 220D sedan and '83 300TD wagon off a mixture of 80% vegoil and 20% regular gas, at the moment, without the Frybrid heating equipment. This mixture starts and runs fine from 25F up. In summer, I'm going for a 90-10 mix. A $2 gallon of gas nets me 10 gallons of biodiesel fuel at 20c/gallon....a much better return in the short run than even the Frybrid can deliver. Maybe we should by a big Hatteras with 8V92TAs and convert those... Larry -- I must admit it IS still fun to stomp on the accelerator when the light turns green....(c; My only gas vehicles is my Honda mower and 2 Honda gensets and my late father's '96 Chevy Caprice Classic Pig V-8 POS. The Chevy wouldn't be so bad if it weren't falling apart at the seams at 61,000 miles. How awful. |
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On Jan 24, 9:27 pm, Larry wrote: "Bob" wrote in news:1169686861.276597.271040@ 13g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? BobYou don't remember "price controls" put on everything by the socialists in the US Gummit back a few decades? Remember the gas lines? food lines? Scarcity as products were diverted away from price controls to free market areas? Yecch...how soon we forget. Larry When I was a kid i fond something called a ration card for fuel. I asked my mom about it. She described how fuel, rubber, sugar, and other things were rationed in the war. Seemed to work just fine then. But then there werent any Republicans crying about big government. Bob |
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Larry wrote:
Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry $6.50 per US gallon here in UK. I believe it is 20cents/gallon in Iraq. Who's winning this war? |
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On 24 Jan 2007 22:10:15 -0800, "Bob" wrote:
When I was a kid i fond something called a ration card for fuel. I asked my mom about it. She described how fuel, rubber, sugar, and other things were rationed in the war. Seemed to work just fine then. Not really. How many gallons do you suppose would be allowed for your boat(s)? Be careful what you ask for. The one thing worse than expensive fuel is no fuel at any price. |
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"Bob" wrote in news:1169705411.283435.123190
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com: Seemed to work just fine then. But, then again, you and I didn't LIVE through rationing in WW2. I lived through "rationing" in the bogus "fuel shortage" of 1973, where all the gas stations, full to overflowing with gas, were simply closed to boost the prices. At the time, I owned a motorhome with saddle tanks and they opened the stations one day a week with no limits on how much you could buy. I filled the motorhome and parked it at home with 70 gallons of gas in it. To go with the motorhome, I had a little Honda 90 motorcycle for local transportation when vacationing in the motorhome. I drove the Honda, except on really rainy days, for the rest of the "gas crisis", which was totally bogus. My uncle is a private pilot. He took a news photographer, from the local newspaper in PA, for a ride out over the ocean during the crisis to show him the huge line of tankers waiting offshore to come into port and dump all the gas aboard. Bogus, just a battle between America and Big Oil to jack the prices to current levels. Just like the inflated price of a car, truck or SUV....we've gotten used to it. The Federal Reserve Bankers win again..... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in
: $6.50 per US gallon here in UK. I believe it is 20cents/gallon in Iraq. Who's winning this war? Yeah, but they have no place to go....safely. I lived in Tehran, Iran from 1977 until 28 days before the Shahanshah was deposed in 1979. The Shah got fed up with the clogged street and jacked up the price of gas from 3c/gallon to 6c/gallon...(c; We burned diesel fuel in our building's water boiler for all the apartments. Being the only American to take the time to learn cursory Farsi, I was put in charge of dealing with the little guy in the primitive fuel truck, an underground tank welded to the top of an old flatbed Deutz with a gravity-feed hose and nozzle. He used to smile when I only dickered him down to 2c/gallon for #2 fuel oil. Our tank held 650 gallons. He used a wooden stick of questionable calibrations to measure the before and after depth in his tank. I'm sure it was calibrated in his favor... Imagine fueling a Hatteras at 2c/gallon, delivered....(c; Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in news:yiSth.4922$1x.84078 @ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca: I wish our gas dealers would get the same message. It's still 93 cents a liter up here. Hey, socialist services like "free" medical care aren't really free. Politicians just move the money around, siphoning off a good percentage for themselves as it flows through their grubby little hands. There are regular companies in Charleston driving every week to Canada to buy hoards of discount prescription drugs that cost an arm and a leg in the States. A friend of mine, who's 85, pays over $US583 for 90 pills of some drug his doctor sells him into buying. The gas is cheaper, but medical service is unobtanium for most Americans from the intense greed....It's a trade off. Larry -- Guess I shouldn't complain too much. When gas gets too expensive you can always walk or downsize to a Honda Fit... and although I'm still 'drug free', you never know when you'll need them. |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry $6.50 per US gallon here in UK. I believe it is 20cents/gallon in Iraq. Who's winning this war? You should have stuck with the good old 'imperial gallon'. At least one of those would take you somewhere. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On 24 Jan 2007 22:10:15 -0800, "Bob" wrote: When I was a kid i fond something called a ration card for fuel. I asked my mom about it. She described how fuel, rubber, sugar, and other things were rationed in the war. Seemed to work just fine then. Not really. How many gallons do you suppose would be allowed for your boat(s)? Be careful what you ask for. The one thing worse than expensive fuel is no fuel at any price. That's only ONE thing that would be worse than expensive fuel. |
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Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know:
RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1 @gnus01.u.washington.edu: Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message. Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c; Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the ships. I like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess Oil storage place to show them all the different oil company trucks lined up at 4AM to put the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher prices, of course... Larry Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning bob s/v Eolian Seattle |
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In the UK it's equivalent to about $7.98 a gallon (£0.90 (GBP) per L) :-(
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I paid $1.77/gal. earlier this week in Michigan. A news report on the
radio said we had the lowest gas prices in the country. Go figure. keith On Jan 24, 6:37 pm, Larry wrote: Am I the only one to notice how Big Oil seems to have gotten the message from the last halftime election where the Democrats took over both houses? Wouldn't it have been fun to hear the Neocons calling them to make a deal? Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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RW Salnick wrote in news:epai0r$euf$1
@gnus01.u.washington.edu: Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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Larry wrote:
RW Salnick wrote in news:epai0r$euf$1 @gnus01.u.washington.edu: Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Larry There is a regular milk run from Alaska to Cherry Point, Washington. These tankers often que up at Port Angeles waiting their turn to proceed in to offload. Same old boats time after time. Gordon |
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Larry wrote: RW Salnick wrote in news:epai0r$euf$1 @gnus01.u.washington.edu: Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Larry I thought most of the crude actually ends up in refineries in California. My understanding was that Alaska was the largest source of crude for the Martinez refinery complex and several others along the left coast. But I might be wrong. |
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xorbit inscribed in red ink for all to know:
Larry wrote: RW Salnick wrote in news:epai0r$euf$1 @gnus01.u.washington.edu: Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Larry I thought most of the crude actually ends up in refineries in California. My understanding was that Alaska was the largest source of crude for the Martinez refinery complex and several others along the left coast. But I might be wrong. Could be. There are some big pipelines running out of Cherry Point and Anacortes. |
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RW Salnick wrote:
Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I hate to break this to you. I live in Alaska. The crude is tankered down to you guys, refined and tankered back up here. I saw it for $2.1599 at one of the Fred Meyers yesterday. Meaning with my fuel discount it's costing me $2.0599. Yep, I just filled up. |
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says... Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know: RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1 @gnus01.u.washington.edu: Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message. Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c; Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the ships. I like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess Oil storage place to show them all the different oil company trucks lined up at 4AM to put the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher prices, of course... Larry Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my window still says $2.79 this morning I think it's not just crude prices---there's also an apparent shortage of refineries in the US---particularly on the West Coast. http://www.slate.com/id/2102031/ Mark Borgerson |
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Dave wrote in
: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:42:58 -0500, Larry said: I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Why am I not surprised that that's what you thought? Hmm....Japan pays more for oil than America....so why wouldn't I ship oil to Japan, where it makes me more money?? Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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Steve Thrasher wrote in
: I hate to break this to you. I live in Alaska. The crude is tankered down to you guys, refined and tankered back up here. I saw it for $2.1599 at one of the Fred Meyers yesterday. Meaning with my fuel discount it's costing me $2.0599. Yep, I just filled up. I used to be mobile cal lab manager for EIL Instruments, one of Maryland's beltway bandits, and drove from their office in Va Beach across to as far as the Mexican border calibrating CG, FAA and Navy remotely situated test equipments at little bases, FAA VORTACs and Loran C sites all over. (Try calibrating a scope while your cal lab is sitting BETWEEN the capacitor hat and ground system of a multimegawatt 100Khz Loran C pulse transmitter, some time.) On one trip, some payback for voting the wrong way resulted in fuel being made in Eastern Texas was allocated away from there to their pet states, leaving poor Texans working AT the refineries with NO GAS at the 7- Elevens! I sat at a La Quinta Motor Inn in Beaumont, staring longingly at FOUR oil refineries running full blast, trying to explain to my ****ed off boss that the van's saddle tanks were EMPTY and this oil refining city had NO GAS FOR SALE until Monday Morning at 9AM! We were gonna be late getting to the CG Station in Brownsville, still half a world away across TEXAS! Of course, my boss blamed me. Everything was my fault....(c; Alaska needs to get in the refining business, then tell America what it wants for gas and diesel...(c;....instead of just giving crude away until it's gone. Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:05:59 -0800, Mark Borgerson said: Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices? If you had lived through the 70s in the US you wouldn't have to guess. Crude oil prices are currently lower than the peak reached during the 70's (I was in San Diego and then Charleston, SC during 77-79). After peaking in the $70's per barrel, crude prices dropped over the next several years back into the $14-18 per barrel range. After the current "crisis" is over, and Shell, BP and ExxonMobile have secured their 30-year contracts on Iraqi oil, crude prices will likely settle back down to around $20-25 level. Gasoline prices will remain around $2 per US Gallon, because that's what Americans now consider to be a "bargain price." So I have prognosticated on this date, 25 Jan 2007. Karin |
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:46:38 -0500, Larry wrote:
Hmm....Japan pays more for oil than America....so why wouldn't I ship oil to Japan, where it makes me more money?? Oil is traded daily on world wide auctions, the so called "spot market". The rest is sold under longer term contracts. The spot market goes to the high bidder for any given tanker load. If Japan pays more it is because of shipping costs which are built into the deal by the tanker brokers. |
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Larry wrote:
Dave wrote in : On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:42:58 -0500, Larry said: I thought all the Alaska crude went to Tokyo and Osaka and Hong Kong where they'll pay much higher prices for it than America will. Why am I not surprised that that's what you thought? Hmm....Japan pays more for oil than America....so why wouldn't I ship oil to Japan, where it makes me more money?? Larry Does Japan pay more for oil? Do you have some numbers on this or a reference? |
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Larry wrote: Alaska needs to get in the refining business, then tell America what it wants for gas and diesel...(c;....instead of just giving crude away until it's gone. Larry My understanding is that won't happen. As part of the agreement to drill the north slope, no refineries would be allowed in Alaska. That won't change because the environmental movement would never allow it. |
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"xorbit" wrote in message ... Larry wrote: Alaska needs to get in the refining business, then tell America what it wants for gas and diesel...(c;....instead of just giving crude away until it's gone. Larry My understanding is that won't happen. As part of the agreement to drill the north slope, no refineries would be allowed in Alaska. That won't change because the environmental movement would never allow it. I'll bet Russia would be amenable to building refineries in Siberia, just across the straights... |
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xorbit wrote:
My understanding is that won't happen. As part of the agreement to drill the north slope, no refineries would be allowed in Alaska. That won't change because the environmental movement would never allow it. Here is part of an article published: January 23, 2007 in The Anchorage Daily News: NORTH POLE -- A small fire that broke out Sunday at Alaska's largest crude oil refinery did not interrupt production and refining operations, officials said. There were no injuries resulting from the fire at the Flint Hills Refinery in North Pole. There's more if you want to go to the web site at www.adn.com Now, it's MY understanding that none of the North Slope oil can be exported. It's all for domestic use. Federal law of some sort. |
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