I usually don't get all that interested in other people's cruising web sites
but this one is an inspiration and a testament to just going out and doing
it.

http://www.Donnalange.com

Surviving the conditions that killed Ken Barnes' boat and dream makes her
look pretty good but that's probably just a matter of the big 44 footer
hitting one of those oddly shaped waves that are out there. She's living the
dream with a fraction of the boat, money, and experience that most of use
would consider the bare minimum for sailing to Bermuda in the summer, let
alone Cape Horn.

She can sing too. We should all buy her CD to support this fellow traveler.

http://www.donnalange.com/images/02_...er_Is_Wide.mp3

(Scroll down to the bottom of the homepage)

What a contrast to the folks like the one who clogged up the Ken Barnes
thread with contemptuous comments after whining to all of us about how
difficult single handing around Maine was in a bigger boat than this lady
has taken trans Atlantic and to the great southern ocean.

--
Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in news:45a16ef5$0$7651
:

She can sing too.

Pop over to alt.binaries.hdtv and download the high definition video of
the Pussycat Dolls latest video in .ts 1080i format. Play it with VLC
(freeware) from www.videolan.org.....

See the chicky in the TINY peach satin shorts with the Adidas 3-stripes
down the front? I never heard her sing solo and I DON'T CARE!...(c;

Beautiful Girls, even if you're not into their songs of love. SOMEBODY
is very lucky, indeed....

I think I'm more in Lust than in Love...hee hee.

BTW, today is my first day on this website. The HDTV files are HUGE but
the picture quality is simply amazing as is the 5-channel stereo sound of
the .ts HDTV files. These are DIRECT, uncompressed video files, not mpeg
or avi or DivX. Most impressive on my 21" LCD monitor at full
resolution.

We're gonna need another cache of DVD+Rs. Luckily, Circuit City has
NexTech DVDs on SALE! A 25 DVD spindle is $3.99 with no apparent limit.
The guy in front of me is another addict. He bought $90 worth...(c; I
only bought $50. Bandwidth is our FRIEND!

On Usenetserver.com's beasts, Xnews tells me we're 23,450,445 messages
UNREAD. It's gonna be a long week on HDTV....(c;

ONE HDTV video music song is 300MB... up to 600MB of data after decoding!
It plays about 5 minutes...

Larry ,, I love you man.

All these goofballs going on and on about some nut who gets his yacht sunk
and you are true to the cause...

I don't see old Larry sailing off around the world alone .. no way. I see
you knocking on the door, the door of a lost sailor ..whose boat just sunk..
and the beautiful lady of the house answers and old Larry says "I'm here to
offer my support at this difficult time" as you place the 4 bottles of wine,
the cd "love poems" and your arm around this sobbing beauty.

Larry the Sailorman...

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Roger Long" wrote in news:45a16ef5$0$7651
:

She can sing too.

Pop over to alt.binaries.hdtv and download the high definition video of
the Pussycat Dolls latest video in .ts 1080i format. Play it with VLC
(freeware) from www.videolan.org.....

See the chicky in the TINY peach satin shorts with the Adidas 3-stripes
down the front? I never heard her sing solo and I DON'T CARE!...(c;

Beautiful Girls, even if you're not into their songs of love. SOMEBODY
is very lucky, indeed....

I think I'm more in Lust than in Love...hee hee.

BTW, today is my first day on this website. The HDTV files are HUGE but
the picture quality is simply amazing as is the 5-channel stereo sound of
the .ts HDTV files. These are DIRECT, uncompressed video files, not mpeg
or avi or DivX. Most impressive on my 21" LCD monitor at full
resolution.

We're gonna need another cache of DVD+Rs. Luckily, Circuit City has
NexTech DVDs on SALE! A 25 DVD spindle is $3.99 with no apparent limit.
The guy in front of me is another addict. He bought $90 worth...(c; I
only bought $50. Bandwidth is our FRIEND!

On Usenetserver.com's beasts, Xnews tells me we're 23,450,445 messages
UNREAD. It's gonna be a long week on HDTV....(c;

ONE HDTV video music song is 300MB... up to 600MB of data after decoding!
It plays about 5 minutes...

"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:gkhoh.3663$1h.712@trndny09:

All these goofballs going on and on about some nut who gets his yacht
sunk and you are true to the cause...

I think they were, initially, trying to figure out how to SALVAGE the
boat, to hell with Barnes. You couldn't see it direct, but you could
feel it.


I don't see old Larry sailing off around the world alone .. no way. I
see you knocking on the door, the door of a lost sailor ..whose boat
just sunk.. and the beautiful lady of the house answers and old Larry
says "I'm here to offer my support at this difficult time" as you
place the 4 bottles of wine, the cd "love poems" and your arm around
this sobbing beauty.

Nobody died, except one ego, so no harm done. I wonder who pays the bill
for the rescue, which probably cost a hundred grand or so. They'll be in
court for years trying to force the insurance company to pony up for the
boat. I've never seen a policy with a stupidity adventurer clause.

Me, I follow a very important rule:

"It is far, far better to be standing on the dock, wishing you were at
sea.....Than to be at sea, pukin' your guts out, wishing you were
standing on the dock."

I've been to both and the former is where I don't mind being....at my
age.

I've always been concerned with stupids putting to sea, alone, for these
adventures. You just KNOW they're in DIRECT VIOLATION of internation
laws concerning "keeping a sharp watch" on duty 24/7 while underway.
They are NOT omnipotent while the boat is sailing off on its own while
they're asleep. But, for some stupid reason, the world lets them all get
away with it and even ENCOURAGES it! Remember, Charleston is where lots
of Around Alone races started, with all the promos and spam-coated boats.

I cannot feel sorry for someone who does something THAT stupid....no
matter how much money he has or spends on it....

Yo... I few year back this French guy was going to row across the Atlantic
from Cape Cod, MA
I was on the Cape at the time.

There would be this big hoodoo when he got in his fancy row boat to head
off. The tv was there, everybody. It was really funny.


Anyway,,, he would leave on a Monday and by Friday they were dragging his
sad ass back into Chatham. This went on for a few weeks.


It got to be the big summer joke.


Everyone in town was doing their French accent and saying goodbye .. you'd
go down to the fishing dock and all the oldtimers would yell at each other
adieu mon ame .


I wonder if he ever got further than Nantucket. Hey,, if he got to
Nantucket he is probably still there.. which isn't such a bad place to end
up.



"Larry" wrote in message
...
"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:gkhoh.3663$1h.712@trndny09:

All these goofballs going on and on about some nut who gets his yacht
sunk and you are true to the cause...

I think they were, initially, trying to figure out how to SALVAGE the
boat, to hell with Barnes. You couldn't see it direct, but you could
feel it.


I don't see old Larry sailing off around the world alone .. no way. I
see you knocking on the door, the door of a lost sailor ..whose boat
just sunk.. and the beautiful lady of the house answers and old Larry
says "I'm here to offer my support at this difficult time" as you
place the 4 bottles of wine, the cd "love poems" and your arm around
this sobbing beauty.

Nobody died, except one ego, so no harm done. I wonder who pays the bill
for the rescue, which probably cost a hundred grand or so. They'll be in
court for years trying to force the insurance company to pony up for the
boat. I've never seen a policy with a stupidity adventurer clause.

Me, I follow a very important rule:

"It is far, far better to be standing on the dock, wishing you were at
sea.....Than to be at sea, pukin' your guts out, wishing you were
standing on the dock."

I've been to both and the former is where I don't mind being....at my
age.

I've always been concerned with stupids putting to sea, alone, for these
adventures. You just KNOW they're in DIRECT VIOLATION of internation
laws concerning "keeping a sharp watch" on duty 24/7 while underway.
They are NOT omnipotent while the boat is sailing off on its own while
they're asleep. But, for some stupid reason, the world lets them all get
away with it and even ENCOURAGES it! Remember, Charleston is where lots
of Around Alone races started, with all the promos and spam-coated boats.

I cannot feel sorry for someone who does something THAT stupid....no
matter how much money he has or spends on it....

Larry wrote:


Nobody died, except one ego, so no harm done. I wonder who pays the bill
for the rescue, which probably cost a hundred grand or so. They'll be in
court for years trying to force the insurance company to pony up for the
boat. I've never seen a policy with a stupidity adventurer clause.

Well... as others have pointed out, he probably
was not insured, so the $200K or so that he spent
on the boat is his "sunk" cost for his sunk dream.
You could tell he was damn happy to get off of
that boat. Plenty of folks leaving their
expensive yacht in Papeete, F.P. after sailing
from California or Baja Mexico feel the same way,
even though they did not try to round the cape on
their first long offshore leg.


Me, I follow a very important rule:

"It is far, far better to be standing on the dock, wishing you were at
sea.....Than to be at sea, pukin' your guts out, wishing you were
standing on the dock."

Amen to that, although its not always possible to
avoid on a long ocean voyage.

I've always been concerned with stupids putting to sea, alone, for these
adventures. You just KNOW they're in DIRECT VIOLATION of internation
laws concerning "keeping a sharp watch" on duty 24/7 while underway.
They are NOT omnipotent while the boat is sailing off on its own while
they're asleep. But, for some stupid reason, the world lets them all get
away with it and even ENCOURAGES it! Remember, Charleston is where lots
of Around Alone races started, with all the promos and spam-coated boats.

I cannot feel sorry for someone who does something THAT stupid....no
matter how much money he has or spends on it....

Well, I do feel sorry for him because he has lost
his dream and his innocence. I agree with you
about the single handers though. Who's gonna take
care of the boat if you hurt yourself, or even
just get sick.

For my taste, even two people on the boat is not
enough for a long voyage, because a few weeks of
3on 3off will still lead to sleep deprivation and
poor decision making--at least it will for me. A
better arrangement is four people which leads to
12 on / 12 off with two people to divide each 12
hour watch. It also lets a couple explore a new
place together while leaving someone on the boat
for anchor watch, etc.

Don W.

Don W wrote in news:BBGoh.15091
:

For my taste, even two people on the boat is not
enough for a long voyage, because a few weeks of
3on 3off will still lead to sleep deprivation and
poor decision making--at least it will for me. A
better arrangement is four people which leads to
12 on / 12 off with two people to divide each 12
hour watch. It also lets a couple explore a new
place together while leaving someone on the boat
for anchor watch, etc.



I've sailed quite a bit with just two of us, able men. I worry a lot
when I see a man and his totally-unprepared, beautiful but dainty wife
sailing out on their dream. He might as well be alone with autopilot and
is better off. The autopilot will handle the helm when she panics and
starts screaming as he's thrashing around fallen overboard or his left
leg is dangling broken.

I don't like sailing more than 2 days with two. I just get too tired,
too soon after the fitful sleep of being thrown around, all your guts
churning in your sleep.

Four people or even 3 is a lot less pressure. The boat I sail on, as
crew, is loaded. I loaded it. But, no autopilot, including our B&G
Pilot with the big hydraulic battery hog, works very well when it's rough
out there. It has the power, but not the brains to anticipate that next
roller. I've cursed that big Amel helm wheel many times after fighting
with it for hours on end. I'm a great advocate for TWO on watch at all
times, even if one of them is attached to the lifeline in his harness
asleep in the cockpit, but ready for trouble. That's our normal mode on
a voyage, especially at night. We try to never have to go forward in the
dark, but sometimes you can't help it.

A good flying fish slamming into you sitting there half asleep seems to
make your watch go faster....(c;

I'll be 61 on the 18th. Cap'n is crowding 70 but in much better shape.
He used to play Rugby bach home in England. I'll sail with him anywhere,
REASONABLE.

We all keep an eye on our captain, especially if the CO2 in the
Sospenders is near the expiry date. He just disappears, having jumped
overboard to see what we'll do to come back after him. I've had him do
that with 6 non-sailor guests and me aboard, before. Try that on your
boats. It borders on pandemonium until the unprepared get used to the
idea he isn't going to drown laying back there in his Sospenders.

Step 1 - CRANK ENGINE! Furl Sails. I'm not much of a purist, I'm
afraid....(c;

Sometimes I just wish he wouldn't play dead when we get back to him, just
to see if we can get 225# of dead weight aboard. "Just leave him
dangling from the mizzen boom. I think he's dead.", I mused to their
horror. "THANKS, MATE!", I hear from the end of the boom...(c;

We don't want him stinkin' up the whole cabin, do we?

Roger ,, I remember reading about Donna Lange some time ago.

In her biography section of the web page it mentioned a bad auto accident in
which people died.

Did she cause the accident? It almost seems like she has a death wish.

================


"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I usually don't get all that interested in other people's cruising web
sites
but this one is an inspiration and a testament to just going out and doing
it.

http://www.Donnalange.com

Surviving the conditions that killed Ken Barnes' boat and dream makes her
look pretty good but that's probably just a matter of the big 44 footer
hitting one of those oddly shaped waves that are out there. She's living
the
dream with a fraction of the boat, money, and experience that most of use
would consider the bare minimum for sailing to Bermuda in the summer, let
alone Cape Horn.

She can sing too. We should all buy her CD to support this fellow
traveler.

http://www.donnalange.com/images/02_...er_Is_Wide.mp3

(Scroll down to the bottom of the homepage)

What a contrast to the folks like the one who clogged up the Ken Barnes
thread with contemptuous comments after whining to all of us about how
difficult single handing around Maine was in a bigger boat than this lady
has taken trans Atlantic and to the great southern ocean.

--
Roger Long

Roger Long wrote:

I usually don't get all that interested in other people's cruising web
sites
but this one is an inspiration and a testament to just going out and doing
it.

http://www.Donnalange.com

Agreed. An amazing story.

Don w.

Yes, these stories and sailing expeditons by Donna Lange are very
compelling
and its clear she needs more support. I've sent some via Paypal and
hope
many other sailors will also donate &/or purchase her good music.
Other ideas/ ways to support her? Also, Roger Long- you're great to
read!
good sailing, John Reeves lower Ches., Va.
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Roger Long wrote:
I usually don't get all that interested in other people's cruising web
sites but this one is an inspiration and a testament to just going out
and doing it.
http://www.Donnalange.com
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Don w. wrote: Agreed. An amazing story. Don w.