"Gm1234" wrote in
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Actually, they are completely useless considering we were discussing
finding hotspots in the Bahamas.



See my other post about Network Stumbler (www.stumbler.net)....(c;

It works in the Bahamas.

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"Larry" wrote
See my other post about Network Stumbler (www.stumbler.net)....(c;

It works in the Bahamas.


The link doesn't work, but I am aware of stumbler. What use would a cruising
sailor put stumbler to?

I pull into a harbour in the Bahamas, drop the anchor. Once settled, I turn
on my laptop or pda and look for networks (the wifi card's software allows
this). If there happness to be a hotspot, fine. But if not, what do I do??
Pull up anchor and motor around until I find one - maybe in another harbour
20 miles way?

I guess I just don't see how this would be of practical use to someone who
is actually out there sailing.

GM

The link doesn't work, but I am aware of stumbler. What use would a
cruising
sailor put stumbler to?

I pull into a harbour in the Bahamas, drop the anchor. Once settled, I
turn
on my laptop or pda and look for networks (the wifi card's software allows
this). If there happness to be a hotspot, fine. But if not, what do I
do??
Pull up anchor and motor around until I find one - maybe in another
harbour
20 miles way?

I guess I just don't see how this would be of practical use to someone who
is actually out there sailing.

Have you tried it?

It's useful in seeing not only the available networks but their signal
strength. This can be very useful if you want to position yourself for a
better signal. Or aim an antenna if you're anchored such that it's
practical (as in, not a single hook swinging).

Leave it running on a laptop in reasonable view from the helm and you could
use it to find the most suitable spot to anchor BEFORE throwing out the
hook. Or to make a temporary connection to the net, get what you want and
move on to your anchorage.

It's a tool, like any other, that's useful to those that understand it.

"Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote

Have you tried it?

It's useful in seeing not only the available networks but their signal
strength. This can be very useful if you want to position yourself for a
better signal. Or aim an antenna if you're anchored such that it's
practical (as in, not a single hook swinging).

Leave it running on a laptop in reasonable view from the helm and you
could
use it to find the most suitable spot to anchor BEFORE throwing out the
hook. Or to make a temporary connection to the net, get what you want and
move on to your anchorage.

It's a tool, like any other, that's useful to those that understand it.


Bill,

Perhaps you have never been to the Bahama Out Islands? - We are not talkng
about armchair sailing here, are we ?

So you choose the spot to anchor based on the internet signal strength??
Great Idea!!

Ever tried anchoring in Hopetown? And you are going to "aim" the antenna
from your anchored boat?

The wifi software that comes with any wifi card, shows a list of available
networks AND their signal strength. Right now, I see my signal at 80% and my
neighbour's at 18%! So, why do I need more software?

Have I used stumbler? - I downloaded it a year or so ago to my laptop and
checked it out - It did nothing as well as my PDA could do with no add-on
software. And this is in the city, where there can be numerous signals - not
in an out island anchorage where there is seldom more than one available
signal, and a weak one at that.

GM

"Gm1234" wrote in news:iTdoh.64166$Qm2.28386
@read1.cgocable.net:

We are not talkng


Can any psychologists in the audience tell me why the mere mention of
something different can cause so much controversy?

I mentioned a freeware tool noone is forced to buy or use.

I get gang warfare under the interstate bridge on the East Side with
motorcycle chains and razor blades.

WTF???

Maybe it happens when boats are put up for the Winter and testosterone
levels get elevated.....(c;

I think it's cool...tied to a GPS then plotted on Google Maps is really
cool.

And might I add: USEFUL

Thank you Larry

Perhaps you have never been to the Bahama Out Islands? - We are not talkng
about armchair sailing here, are we ?

Oh gee, what a surprise, an arrogant sailor! Yes, been there done that.

So you choose the spot to anchor based on the internet signal strength??
Great Idea!!

In all situations, of course not. But if someone wants connectivity, and a
great many people live for more than just the sail (even when sailing) it's
a fine idea.

The wifi software that comes with any wifi card, shows a list of available
networks AND their signal strength. Right now, I see my signal at 80% and
my
neighbour's at 18%! So, why do I need more software?

Have I used stumbler? - I downloaded it a year or so ago to my laptop and
checked it out - It did nothing as well as my PDA could do with no add-on
software.

Then you obviously haven't actually tried it. But hey, be pig-headed, it's
apparently in your nature.

And this is in the city, where there can be numerous signals - not
in an out island anchorage where there is seldom more than one available
signal, and a weak one at that.

And perhaps that's the best place for you. The company of others is
apparently not suited to you.

"Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote in
t:

Perhaps you have never been to the Bahama Out Islands? - We are not
talkng about armchair sailing here, are we ?

Oh gee, what a surprise, an arrogant sailor! Yes, been there done
that.

OK, then maybe you can tell me where in the Bahama **Out Islands** you
found wireless. If you're talking Nassua or the Abacos, then yes, wireless
is available.

-- Geoff

"Geoff Schultz" wrote

OK, then maybe you can tell me where in the Bahama **Out Islands** you
found wireless. If you're talking Nassau or the Abacos, then yes,
wireless
is available.

Netstumbler was very useful on Exuma for finding signals. Found 3 usable
signals at Georgetown with weird radiation patterns. 200 yards made a lot
of difference in signal strength. Also at the Four Seasons Marina, Emerald
Bay, Staniel Cay and Cat Island.

Marina wifi antennas are aimed out over the slips and tend to fall off
rapidly near the edges of the pattern. If you can find the center of the
pattern you can be a fair ways off and still get a usable signal. The
problem with marina systems is that you have to go in and open an account
which cost a few bucks if you are not in a slip. A lot of villas along the
beach have unsecured APs too and they have very erratic patterns. Must
have something to do with the position of the AP to windows and metal in the
house. With a good wifi rig you can sometimes find them several hundred
yards off shore.

Coverage is hit and miss but with the right tools you can sniff out more
spots.

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Glenn Ashmore

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"Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote

Oh gee, what a surprise, an arrogant sailor! Yes, been there done that.

Yes, I am sure you have. Arrogance has no bounds.