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"Shaun Van Poecke" wrote in
: What im thinking is probably a single 100Ah AGM battery, a 2000watt generator hooked up to a 30A charger. I dont really have a lot of power needs, just lighting (flourescent), a cd player that gets used a couple of hours a day, Nav lights, and power for my GPS/notebook as needed. Im hoping to get 2 to 3 days use without charging. 100AH isn't much of a source. You can only discharge it 50AH, if you know what's good for it. If you discharge it further, you'll be replacing it too often. Whatever power you THINK you'll need is never enough. You'll soon get bored sitting with one little flourescent light and a flashlight listening to those same CDs all the time or the waves slapping the hull and want more, which will drain that little battery really fast. If you run a 2A anchor light for 15 hours, this time of year, that's 30AH of your 50AH safe content, each day, right there. The GPS draws 1.5A, unless it has a depth sounder, then it draws 3A times the number of hours you're sailing. Notebooks consume their 3AH internal battery in 2 hours, so that's 1.5A plus the inefficiency of the inverter to run its AC power charger, let's say 2A. Sailing with GPS/notebook for nav with sonar is about 5A times the number of hours sailing, without turning anything else on. 10 hours sailing = 50AH drain. You'll be charging that little battery twice a day for 3-4 hours at a time if you sail then anchor out. Batteries charge SLOWLY. That will never change as long as we're using inefficient lead-acid batteries, no matter how they package and hype it or what fancy color the plastic case is. To fully charge a discharged battery...FULLY CHARGE, not just until its voltage rises trying to stuff 50A into it at 16V to charge it in minutes instead of hours. It's a fact of physics and chemistry, not sales and advertising. Plan on C/10 amps. 100AH/10 is 10A....for the first few hours. Then, it drops off to 5A, 3A, 1.5A after 4 or 5 hours charging from 50% drain. Jokers telling you they can recharge their superdooper AGM in 30 minutes are dreaming. It's STILL a lead-acid battery with lead-acid chemistry.... You have plenty of charger, plenty of genset. But, let's add some more heavy house batteries to extend the runtime. That charger will standard charge 300-400AH of house battery capacity. 300AH of supply will take 600AH of battery capacity. I'd think two banks of L16H 6V golf cart batteries will do the trick, but you could start off with one bank and add the second one later, but not too much later. It's not nice to parallel a new bank with one 3 years old. Two batteries in series to get 12V then two banks in parallel to add up the AH to 660AH is more sensible. The anchor light will run all night without draining them dangerously low and leaving you some headroom to make breakfast in the microwave you haven't discovered you really need, yet. To run the notebook and microwave, get a 1000 watt Tripplite inverter and mount the inverter right next to the house batteries through its own 100A fuse with #4 fine stranded flexible wire from the car stereo shop (or Radio Shack). If you open it up where the power switch is, you can parallel the tiny power switch with a remote one with two little wires putting the inverter control in a more convenient place. Put a neon bulb next to the switch hooked to the AC output so you can see it's running and looks about the right brightness. You'll only be drawing 45-50A for a few minutes as the microwave heats breakfast. I like Tripplite because of its $70K insurance guarantee I know is honored. They make great inverters that don't cost an arm and a leg like "marine" inverters, which is nonsense. Now, where you're going to put the battery boxes for these beasts is YOUR problem. Being tall, L16H don't take up a lot of deck real estate, but are more vertical. 100AH little AGM is not near enough. The golf cart beasts won't cost you much more for 6 times the supply. You'll be able to replenish their electrolyte with DISTILLED WATER ONLY, please, saving you lots of replacement costs. They will survive an inversion as their caps seal. Golf carts flip over, so the caps seal and have a water trap in them. Remember you MUST LASH THEM DOWN in case the boat broaches! Way too many battery banks are just sitting there like the boat will never flip over. How stupid that is..... POWER is our friend! In the anchorage, it's not good form to be a smartass showoff and leave all the deck lighting on for hours standing out like a beacon while your poorly-planned neighbors with 100AH AGM batteries sit by their candles trying to find the head with a flashlight...(c; |
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