It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

" wrote:

I have been a catamaran sailor for years and have come this conclusion:
a major different between monohulls and catamarans is the most sable
position for a catamaran is upside down on the surface, the most sable
position for a monohull is right side up on the bottom. I'll take
the cat.

sherwindu wrote:
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.


My guess would be that a lot more of those sailors were lost at sea.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
sherwindu wrote:
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not
result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be
helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess
earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.


My guess would be that a lot more of those sailors were lost at sea.


Exactly.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

sherwindu wrote:

It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

Sherwin,

Earlier sailors probably _were_ better prepared to
take care of themselves, because there were no
radios, and no CG helicopters, CG fast cutters,
etc, and they knew it when they left port.

However, many of them also disappeared without a
trace, and it is still a mystery what happened to
them. This still happens today even with all of
our safety gear.

Don W.

"Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath
bound the restless wave...Oh, hear us when we cry
to Thee, For those in peril on the sea!" --
Excerpted from the Navy Hymn -- William Whiting 1860.

Hi Sherwin:
Why would you be helplessly trapped? Can't you swim? If the multihull
is not going to sink, you can swim out the hatch, or, like some multihull
sailors do, is to carry tools located near to where they have planed to
cut a hole in the hull incase of a capsize. Some multihulls have a built in
escape hatch. To take your chance with a rollover in a mono can be a
all or nothing gamble with your life, better odds with a multi, which
you would still have water, food and everything else you brought
with you. In a mono, if there is a hole in the hull for any reason, such
as hitting a container (which is more of a problem than you might think)
or holed by a whale, or equipment failure, you are in deep dodo.
I don't mean to sound like I don't like mono's, I would love to
have a Freedom 40, but as far as safety goes, I think the multi's have
it.

Lagoon escape hatch:
http://www.indigomoon.us/triplog/survey.html

The crewman leaning against the hull is buy the
escape hatch, which is swung over to his left:
http://www.breath2000.org/gallery/al...a_capsize1.jpg

If this happened to a mono, how much time would you have to gather what you need to survive?:
http://www.ceps-survie.com/images/Tr...Spain%2095.jpg

This mono did not survive this:
http://photos.sfsurvey.com/sailH/index.asp

Lost his rudder stock, gone in 60 minutes:
http://www.f-boat.com/pdf/YachtSinkingMay05.pdf


"sherwindu" wrote in message ...
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

" wrote:

I have been a catamaran sailor for years and have come this conclusion:
a major different between monohulls and catamarans is the most sable
position for a catamaran is upside down on the surface, the most sable
position for a monohull is right side up on the bottom. I'll take
the cat.

sherwindu wrote:
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat sinking. ...

I don't think there are many "well established facts" when it comes to
small boat survival in severe storm conditions. I've lost friends to
storms at sea who I know were excellent sailors in well found boats and
I have friends who survived the Queen's birthday storm in an old ferro
cement boat. Most of what is published about small craft in very bad
weather is based on the Fastnet, the Queen's birthday storm and the
Sydney-Hobart disasters. I know good faith efforts have been made to
draw lessons from these events. However, there isn't a lot of data to
work with and I'm not sure that all of the people charged with finding
facts were equipped to understand the evidence they judged. The only
really well established fact about all this that I can see is that even
good sailors on good boats can meet with conditions at sea that are
unsurvivable.

-- Tom.