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Boat for single hander
NE Sailboat wrote:
Roger ,, ,, on the single handed sailing .. According to the folks on the singlehanded_sailing group for yahoo ... it is against the maritime laws because a watch must be maintained at all times. I have never slept underway singlehanded and have no ambition to do the kind of sailing where it would be necessary. It really does seem to me to be an unecessary risk. If I'm going to be out that long, I would really prefer company, even if all they can do is steer a course and call me if they see a light. Now I'm off the hook ( get it ). I can stay in port ... That sounds like a good idea if sailing seems like as much work and is the source of as much frustration and anxiety as seeps between the lines of your posts. Is your boat still for sale? It looked like a nice one. and bother people. That's never a good idea. |
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She is not for sale ... but for you ??
Roger ,, test the market .. always test the market. How else to know what you have. Roger ,, one of the great appeals about sailing is the challenge. Challenge. Sure ,, there are times that things aren't going right, that the nerves are frayed. But ,, that is why I like to sail. Heck, if everything worked I would be as bored as I am driving my car. As far as my boat goes ... this spring she is getting some attention. She will be beautiful come May. I shower her with affection. Then, it is off to Cape Cod ... Boston ... back to NH ........ then goin down east .. heading for Blue Hill Bay. Ya gotta have a plan... ======================= PS.. hopefully I won't be going alone. Although I broke up with Paris, her friend Britney has asked to crew. ============ "Roger Long" wrote in message ... NE Sailboat wrote: Roger ,, ,, on the single handed sailing .. According to the folks on the singlehanded_sailing group for yahoo ... it is against the maritime laws because a watch must be maintained at all times. I have never slept underway singlehanded and have no ambition to do the kind of sailing where it would be necessary. It really does seem to me to be an unecessary risk. If I'm going to be out that long, I would really prefer company, even if all they can do is steer a course and call me if they see a light. Now I'm off the hook ( get it ). I can stay in port ... That sounds like a good idea if sailing seems like as much work and is the source of as much frustration and anxiety as seeps between the lines of your posts. Is your boat still for sale? It looked like a nice one. and bother people. That's never a good idea. |
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Good plan.
I'm sure you'll be surprised how much easier it is next year. I went back to sailing after 15 years away. It came back fairly quickly but I still wasn't completely comfortable by the end of the first summer. The first day of the next (this last) summer, I was a good half summer ahead on the relearning curve. The brain spends the winter processing all those memories and lessons from the summer before. -- Roger Long |
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Thanks for all your helpful info guys. I appreciate it very much. If all
goes well I should be in Florida around Feb with a shopping list . |
Boat for single hander
NE Sailboat wrote:
... singlehanded sailing ... is against the maritime laws because a watch must be maintained at all times. ... I was told by a CG testing officer that for the purposes of logging Merchant Marine hours they felt it was breaking the law to stand watch more than 12 hours in every 24. So, I'd guess you're pretty safe legally (in the USA) if your single handed voyages last 12 hours or less. In practice I know a lot of folks who sail all over the world, check in and out of countries and even log into national radio watches without getting into any kind of legal trouble. -- Tom. |
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I have a 2003 Beneteau 473 2 cabin and I single hand the boat all the time.
With or without non-sailing passengers. If the boat is rigged for single handed sailing 47 feet is not difficult to hande. I'm a liveaboard with a dog so a Beneteau 35 would be cutting it close as far as space goes. I'd look at the Beneteau 393 before I bought the Beneteau 35. It is only a couple of feet longer and has a much kinder interior design for staying on board for long periods of time. Cap'n Ric S/V Sezaneh |
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I was sailing once when a 200 foot rogue wave hit me broadside. Rolled the
boat, tore down all the rigging and killed me instantly. They never found the boat or the body. I'm still trying to get the insurance company to settle. Cap'n Ric "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:YSpeh.1310$Z67.52@trndny02... "I got involved in 40 foot waves with a 27 feet sailboat. ..." I don't believe this for one moment. 40' waves? And you were in a 27' boat? Total nonsense. ================================================== ========= If you are to post, at least post something rational ================================================== ==== wrote in message ... Some of the older single handle great sailor like Moitessier, Hasler, James and many others appear to have made good with average size sailboat. Moitessier suggested that the ideal length for around the world voyaging is around 32 to 34 feet. He claims that it has better control in heavy weather sailing. Although these suggestions were made with the traditional sailboat design from 1960 to 1980 it gives me food for though. I got involved in 40 foot waves with a 27 feet sailboat. One of the raison I think I made it is because the boat and I were like a single cork going up and down the waves. I do not know if I would have been able to make it with a boat in the 40 foot range? "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:gXneh.61$Li6.56@trndny03... Roger ,, I don't think the poster is talking about a day sail. I also disagree completely with your opinion. Single hand sailing is hard work, dangerous, lonely, etc. Just leaving whatever mooring, dock you might be attached to is tough. Unless you have more than two arms? I think you're right that leaving and returning are the hardest... that's very much dependent on the conditions and also the size of the boat (bigger typically is harder). I disagree that it's that much harder, especially when you're relieved of the people underfoot when trying to do something. It's certainly not lonely. It can be dangerous, but that's dependent upon how you treat it. Then, once released, the project of putting up the main, getting everything together ,, et all. Ummm... autohelm? And the big issue is the helm! Unless you are the first person on earth who can be in two places at once. Someone, must steer. I get very frustrated. One minute I'm pulling on a sheet, next I'm back resetting the helm Invest in an autohelm. I have a remote for mine. I can be on the bow and drive. After everything is done, and a course is set, with a steady wind, then things aren't so bad. But :::: the helm! That rotten helm. If my boat had a windvane, and the windvane worked, then I suppose I would be able to take a rest. At the end of the day .... the docking, mooring. I hate this. I end up anchoring out most of the time because there is no one to help with dock lines, etc. Takes practice/is never perfect/is highly dependent on adverse conditions. The one area I agree with you on is the self confidence factor. There is a certain feeling of "I can do it" when you are the only one doing it. Also,, when I screw up ............. there isn't someone sitting in the cockpit screaming at me. I also end up preparing for most trips ahead ... Always knowing I need more room because I am the only one on board. I'd rather have a crewmate. Someone to help out. I'd rather have a competent crewmate. Incompetents make things worse than single handing. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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JohnM wrote:
...single handed cruising... look first to your self-steering device the boat should be pointed at both ends then look at your strength: no sail bigger than 500ft^2 (uffa fox) tom |
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Oh ya ... well knock this hurricane off my shoulder... I dare ya!
======================= "Cap'n Ric" wrote in message news:kfMeh.826$Li6.498@trndny03... I was sailing once when a 200 foot rogue wave hit me broadside. Rolled the boat, tore down all the rigging and killed me instantly. They never found the boat or the body. I'm still trying to get the insurance company to settle. Cap'n Ric "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:YSpeh.1310$Z67.52@trndny02... "I got involved in 40 foot waves with a 27 feet sailboat. ..." I don't believe this for one moment. 40' waves? And you were in a 27' boat? Total nonsense. ================================================== ========= If you are to post, at least post something rational ================================================== ==== wrote in message ... Some of the older single handle great sailor like Moitessier, Hasler, James and many others appear to have made good with average size sailboat. Moitessier suggested that the ideal length for around the world voyaging is around 32 to 34 feet. He claims that it has better control in heavy weather sailing. Although these suggestions were made with the traditional sailboat design from 1960 to 1980 it gives me food for though. I got involved in 40 foot waves with a 27 feet sailboat. One of the raison I think I made it is because the boat and I were like a single cork going up and down the waves. I do not know if I would have been able to make it with a boat in the 40 foot range? "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:gXneh.61$Li6.56@trndny03... Roger ,, I don't think the poster is talking about a day sail. I also disagree completely with your opinion. Single hand sailing is hard work, dangerous, lonely, etc. Just leaving whatever mooring, dock you might be attached to is tough. Unless you have more than two arms? I think you're right that leaving and returning are the hardest... that's very much dependent on the conditions and also the size of the boat (bigger typically is harder). I disagree that it's that much harder, especially when you're relieved of the people underfoot when trying to do something. It's certainly not lonely. It can be dangerous, but that's dependent upon how you treat it. Then, once released, the project of putting up the main, getting everything together ,, et all. Ummm... autohelm? And the big issue is the helm! Unless you are the first person on earth who can be in two places at once. Someone, must steer. I get very frustrated. One minute I'm pulling on a sheet, next I'm back resetting the helm Invest in an autohelm. I have a remote for mine. I can be on the bow and drive. After everything is done, and a course is set, with a steady wind, then things aren't so bad. But :::: the helm! That rotten helm. If my boat had a windvane, and the windvane worked, then I suppose I would be able to take a rest. At the end of the day .... the docking, mooring. I hate this. I end up anchoring out most of the time because there is no one to help with dock lines, etc. Takes practice/is never perfect/is highly dependent on adverse conditions. The one area I agree with you on is the self confidence factor. There is a certain feeling of "I can do it" when you are the only one doing it. Also,, when I screw up ............. there isn't someone sitting in the cockpit screaming at me. I also end up preparing for most trips ahead ... Always knowing I need more room because I am the only one on board. I'd rather have a crewmate. Someone to help out. I'd rather have a competent crewmate. Incompetents make things worse than single handing. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Tom ,, after all the posts here and the usual fun arguing ( Roger and Me )
,, I got to working on my single hand sailing whatevers. So far .. get some lines with set up for docking by myself. And I am searching for some method of self steering. I've looked at all the usual suspects. Monitor, Aries, etc. I also ordered and read John Lechers book about the subject. The sheet to tiller setup. I did this last summer a little but I will give it another go this summer. The windvane system is more tricky. For a boat my size, 32', weight becomes an issue. I don't want to have hundreds of LBS sitting on my stern. Heck, my stern isn't that big. Since I have a tiller .. that is a good thing ...... I can set up a very simple system with a pendulum. Run lines through blocks to the tiller. The question becomes ???????? what system. Working on that one. ============== ps.. I won't use an electric self steerer. Don't have the power and I hate the whole thought of them. Gotta go narural. -- "Tom Lightbody" wrote in message ... JohnM wrote: ...single handed cruising... look first to your self-steering device the boat should be pointed at both ends then look at your strength: no sail bigger than 500ft^2 (uffa fox) tom |
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