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Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
Hey all,
Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. I've heard estimates ranging from 50 to 100 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for monohulls and 75 to 150 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for catamarans. This is assuming "delivery" style sailing, no stopping for pleasure, etc. It also presumes that the winds are relatively favorable, not beating upwind. Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 07:52:52 GMT, AMPowers
wrote: Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. How much experience do you have with the boat? What is your typical "off the wind" speed? Is your crew good enough to sail it well 24 hours a day? There are way to many variables to give you an accurate estimate. Your range of 75 to 150 NM per day sounds like it should be in the ball park but in the end it will all depend on conditions. I have done 200 mile days in a monohull but that is the exception not the rule, and that was in a fully crewed and equipped 50 ft racing sloop. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
Wayne.B wrote:
How much experience do you have with the boat? What is your typical "off the wind" speed? Is your crew good enough to sail it well 24 hours a day? It is a relatively new boat for us (owned it less than a year) and our first catamaran. During our last cruise (over 500 miles) we averaged about 125 nautical miles a day, but that was with an inexperienced crew and we were beating to weather. I'd like to believe we should do better this trip as we are running with the wind for a majority of it and the crew will consist of several more seasoned sailors - but we also tend to sail conservatively (always reef the main at night, don't push the boat or crew, don't allow it to be overpowered, etc.) Mostly I'd like to get some sense of what others expect/anticipate when planning their voyages to verify that mine estimates are reasonable. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
I use 5 kts as my estimate and am happy when I do 6-7+. The later rate
isn't a problem unless it gets you to an unknown destination during the night. So, I'd plan on 120-150 miles a day. -- Geoff AMPowers wrote in news:oz9dh.26096$wP1.8415 @newssvr14.news.prodigy.net: Hey all, Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. I've heard estimates ranging from 50 to 100 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for monohulls and 75 to 150 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for catamarans. This is assuming "delivery" style sailing, no stopping for pleasure, etc. It also presumes that the winds are relatively favorable, not beating upwind. Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
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Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. ... http://www.pangolin.co.nz/yotreps/reporter_list.php has a list of boats actually making passages and the same list is kept historically. There are programs you can download onto your PC that have rudimentary mapping as well. You will need roll your own statistics. Keep in mind that different people have different definitions of what a daily run is. Record keepers and racers all pretty much agree that a daily run is a great circle distance between two points in any 24 hours. However, lots of cruisers prefer to define average day's run as the distance between ports divided by the number of days between ports (ie. distance made good on course per day). -- Tom. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
100 miles per day...makes planning a breeze..
(no punn intended)..... ‹(•¿•)› On Dec 5, 12:52Â*am, AMPowers wrote: Hey all, Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. Â* I've heard estimates ranging from 50 to 100 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for monohulls and 75 to 150 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for catamarans. Â*This is assuming "delivery" style sailing, no stopping for pleasure, etc. Â*It also presumes that the winds are relatively favorable, not beating upwind. Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
I've made several trans-oceanic
voyages....Hawaii-Victoria,Victoria-Maui, Mexico-Tahiti. If you are sailing downwind....my experience in monos shows a daily run of anywhere from 130-180 nautical miles a day. If you stay out of the "highs",and do spinnaker runs during daylight hours, you should be able to manage 7-8 knots easily. These trips were made in a 41,42,and 50 foot boats respectively. Can't speak for cats,as I have no experience,but I would think they would be faster. "AMPowers" wrote in message et... Hey all, Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. I've heard estimates ranging from 50 to 100 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for monohulls and 75 to 150 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for catamarans. This is assuming "delivery" style sailing, no stopping for pleasure, etc. It also presumes that the winds are relatively favorable, not beating upwind. Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
100 miles per day...makes planning a breeze.. It's also nice to have a boat that goes six knots. I often adjust my throttle slightly under power to set the speed at six knots - 10 minutes per mile. It's very close to my normal cruise anyway. -- Roger Long |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
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If you are sailing downwind....my experience in monos shows a daily run of anywhere from 130-180 nautical miles a day. ... Those seem like reasonable numbers to me, but be aware that the variances might be quite high. Nothing is for sure with a sail boat. Even on the same routes at similar times of year I've found that my passage times can vary by a factor of two, and I'm not alone in this. There was a boat sailing near me on my last passage up from New Zealand who had arranged a complete crew change in Tahiti on the assumption that he could make 100 miles a day no mater what. Sadly he ended up hove to for a week and found himself a week late and in the Cooks... I typically plan passages in stages. At a preliminary stage I look at the pilot charts and make a rough guess at how long a passage will take and then double that number to make allowances for waiting on weather and such. This can take place years ahead of time. Starting a few weeks before the intended passage I start looking at weather charts daily to get a feel for the macro weather and readjust my expected time based on the weather I think I'm going to be sailing in. Finally, when I check-out I look one more time at the best wx models I can get and make a final estimate of my passage time and then tell everyone that I plan to take twice as long as I suspect I really will. YMMV. -- Tom. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
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Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:11:50 -0500, Gogarty
wrote: In article , says... I use 5 kts as my estimate and am happy when I do 6-7+. The later rate isn't a problem unless it gets you to an unknown destination during the night. So, I'd plan on 120-150 miles a day. -- Geoff I assume five knots, hour in and hour out, even though she will hit eight when all is in the groove. I would never budget more than 100 nautical miles in a 24 hour period. For every eight knot burst there's a three knot drift. Same here. For trip planning I always used 5kts average for a 37' monohull and it's worked out well. Steve |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
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If it is coastal cruising, assume 50 miles/day. Doesn't make much difference where you sail or on what type/size boat, 50 miles per day is a good average. Lew |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
You need to make a decision about iron wind. On a "delivery trip", I'll use the engine when speed drops below 4 knots to push along at 5.5 knots ( about 2000 rpm on my 55' monohull and minimal fuel usage). This strategy provides a pretty reliable 140-150 mile 24 hour run. When I'm out for fun - it's no engine and no hurry. Carl |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
I have a 2003 Beneteau 473 which puts down about a 46' waterline and has
approximately 1,100 Sq. Ft of sail between the genoa and mainsail. This summer I left Baltimore, Maryland on the evening of June 25th and arrived in Castine, Maine late morning of July 1st. Five and a half days and 550 miles later for an even 100 mile a day average. Since we stopped and spent an entire day and a half at Great Salt Pond in Block Island, Rhode Island we only spent four days sailing for an average of 137.5 nautical miles a day for a 5.75 Kt average. We averaged 10 Kt. winds from the SW to the SE so we were running or reaching all the way except the 95 miles to clear the C&D Canal and the Delaware Bay. We also timed the Cape Cod Canal right so we went through on a full flood tide. At night we would take one reef in both sails. Because you are getting pretty far north we only had darkness for 7 hours a night. You will have to retrieve historical data on the prevailing winds for your trip. You may also want to pull tide and current data if that affects your journey. I had the latest NWS 96 hour weater forecasts and I knew the prevailing winds would be SW with some swing as far as SE. I also have weather radio, weather fax and navtex on the boat. We timed the current in the C&D Canal, Delaware Bay and Cape Code Canal so we would have the current with us. Assuming you know how your boat sails at various points of sail I think you will find that you can come very close to your estimates. We missed our estimate on our arrival at the R2 Bell at Block Island by only 2 hours. We arrived in Castine, Maine within 3 hours of our initial estimate. Regards, Cap'n Ric USCG Licensed Captain |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
After considerable thought and analysis ... I come up with = = 20 miles per
day. The number could be much higher if: I didn't get up so late, decide to make coffee and have a bagel, read the local paper of whatever town I am moored in, spend time talking to numerous other sailors about such things as moorings, docks, the nice ass on the girl in the marina ,,, Then,,, I get her ready. Put this away, put that away, test this, test that, make sure there is fuel, check the weather, talk on the marine radio because it is fun, play with the dinghy, get out the charts, set up my "sailor cd/radio/tape player", call over to other boats as to where they are heading, ... have another cup of coffee ,, go below and clean up ... row in to use the men's room at the marina with the girl with the nice ass ,,, Finally set sail. Sail for 4-6 hours. At 4-5 knots. Go approximately 20 miles but never in the direction I want to go in because the wind is all wrong. Check my handy Cruising Guide to the Maine Coast .. Pick out a nice anchorage. Sail in, start motor, drop hook. Pour myself a cold diet pepsi. Have an appetizer. Pick out a movie for the evening and set up the DVD Player .. Relax. 20 miles... Anymore than that would be tough. Its time to go lie down. "AMPowers" wrote in message et... Hey all, Can anyone provide a link to references regarding reasonable mileage made good for a given 24 hour period of sailing. I've heard estimates ranging from 50 to 100 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for monohulls and 75 to 150 nautical miles per twenty four hour period for catamarans. This is assuming "delivery" style sailing, no stopping for pleasure, etc. It also presumes that the winds are relatively favorable, not beating upwind. Any opinions, experience or actual data would be greatly appreciated. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:38:41 -0500, Gogarty
wrote: Tee hee. Actually sounds like the general practice of our sailing club where anything more than twenty miles and/or five hours is extreme over-exertion. I was once Fleet Captain and tried to set up 40-mile days -- you know, get from City Island to Block Island in three daylight days -- resulting in grand mutiny. 40 mile days on a club cruise are difficult for the smaller boats. Our first cruiser was a Westerly 28 and we always arrived late for the end of day parties. We didn't get much sympathy from the big guys but it is a real issue if you are trying to encourage broad participation. One strategy our club eventually adopted was to start the cruise out east at some place like BI or Newport and let everyone figure out the best way to get there on their own time schedule. After that we'd do short hops only. |
Rough estimates of miles per day sailing...
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:32:03 -0500, Gogarty
wrote: In article . net, says... Subject If it is coastal cruising, assume 50 miles/day. Doesn't make much difference where you sail or on what type/size boat, 50 miles per day is a good average. Lew That can't be for 24 hours, can it? When I do coastal cruising, I'm usually sailing 12 hours and anchored 12 hours a day. So 50 miles a day is about right. Steve |
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