Teaching a loved one to sail
 

OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it. Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go. My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.
My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.

Teaching a loved one to sail
 

wrote in message
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OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it. Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go. My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.
My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.



A proper education instills self learning. You can teach others, but you
certainly can't think for them. It is up to them to chose to learn, to do
that they must chose to think. If they can't think they can only be trained
like animals.

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Teaching a loved one to sail
 

Maybe she's just genetically predispositioned to be a stinkpotter.

Worse things have happened. :-)

Teaching a loved one to sail
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Maybe she's just genetically predispositioned to be a stinkpotter.

Worse things have happened. :-)

We will soon know as I have finished my Tolman Skiff and plan to launch
it this coming Saturday. Maybe that will be "her" boat. She doesnt
allow me to use her car (the good one in the family) as I would and I
go beserk if she tries to clean my old Nissan truck with 302,000 miles
on it.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Maybe she's just genetically predispositioned to be a stinkpotter.

Worse things have happened. :-)


In my experience, most women are. Not all .... but most.
Something about the ability to go home when you want ... not when you get
there.

I wanted to get a sailboat a few years ago. Vetoed.

Eisboch

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wrote:
OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone.

You can lead a horse to water but cant make them drink.

The secrect getting a horse to drink water is not leading them around,
rather, its how to create the thirst.

You should not be concerend with "teaching" studetns rather wondering
how studetns "learn."
Thus: learners not students.


Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do?

Determine what the learner need to be able to do when its all over.
Match learnering styles, outcomes, learning methods.


Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different.


No, not really. Yes, there are a few diffrneces between Thinking and
DOing skills but in the long run none.

I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it,

Sounds as though you lack the skill to describe skills (behaviors) ,
that when put together, alow a person to canoe.

Think: Progressve approximation of a target behavior. In other words,
baby steps. Or learn to crawl before stand, before toddle, before walk,
before walking 25 feet without falling. etc.

I just do it.

Modeling is an effective learning stratigy. See one, do one, teach one.
Monkey see, monkey do (social learning theory)

Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go.

Yes, now youre on the right track. Diffrent learning types.


My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.

Do you mean detailed concrete instructions? If you can not explaine
what you want how on earth can you expect someone to do it?????

My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away".

Lots of prereq skills to acccomplish that.


"When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.

You are not alone. I have listened to 1000s of seasoned managers, cops,
teachers, who get very frustrated becfause they lack the skills to
describe human behavor. Just that you are describing this problem shows
that you have great insight.

The first step is to be able tod istinguish betwen an opinion and a
fact. For example:
1) outside theweather is 81 degrees F, wind NW 18-24 K, visibility 3000
m.
2) Its a beautiful day.

Which is an opinion? Which is the fact (observable behavior)

Now lets take that concept and apply it diffrently. Which is an
opnionand fact?
1) you are so stupid!
2) name all parts of the mainsail.

AKA bob

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:59:04 -0500, DSK wrote:

That said, the best answer is really to let somebody else
teach your wife to sail.

All those words for that one gem of wisdom.

One of the best things I did when we were in the process of buying a
sailboat was to talk to my sister who recommended that I take a course
in sailing without my husband. I did that - actually I took 3
courses. One in a Rainbow 23 foot with no engine, one in a Newport 30
(I think), and the third one was a weekend with my husband on a Morgan
45.

In the first (beginner) course, they had a short class work session,
and then we went out in the boats and we each took a turn steering and
sail handling until everyone had mastered each of the skills that were
presented in each lesson. You could do this in 4 sessions - morning
and afternoon Sat and Sunday, but I picked to do it in the morning of
4 successive weekends so I could process the information between each
lesson.

BTW I was already completely comfortable in the water, as in swimming
and I can canoe and row.

My biggest problem was learning to reverse think when I was using a
tiller. I still can't do that, and if I try, I then can't use a wheel
either for awhile. There are some skills that just aren't worth it to
me to learn and that is one of them. Another one is a racing flip
turn and also any kind of diving (as in diving off a diving board - I
love SCUBA and snorkeling, but I just am not coordinated enough to
reliably go into the water head first when I start out standing up on
my feet)

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Just send her to the club house, she will take up with the towel boy ...
soon you will be done with her.

Then you can go sailing with "men" ... big blond men, men with muscles, men
that wear little bathing suits that show their things ,,,,

A jolly ho ho and a bottle or rum ... pass the bree Bruce.


================================================
"DSK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do?

Very very very standard teaching discipline:
1- tell the student what you're going to teach him

check: ask the student to describe in his own words the goal of the lesson

2- teach the student the info & skills needed

check: ask the student to list the necessary info, equipment, & skills
necessary for the task

3- Demonstrate each component skill of the task

check: have the student practice each component skill

4- Demonstrate the entire task under the students direction

5- supervise the student demonstrating the entire task.

It may be desirable or necessary to review any or all steps. Most people
intuitively skip step 1 which is a huge mistake, because the student has
no idea what to focus on.


.... Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it.

I am not saying this to be insulting, but if you can't explain it, then
you don't understand it yourself all that well.


.... Its like explaining how to ride a bike.

Easy to explain, difficult to take the first steps of practice.


Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go.

Yep. Different people have different ways of learning.... who'd have thunk
it?!?


Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away".

Don't start by letting the student steer. Start by letting the student
hold (not allowed to use the cleat) the mainsheet. Have the student watch
the wind angle and boat's heeling angle, and explain the necessary steps
to keep the boat moving and not heeling too much, until they can do it
with no instruction.

Then let them steer while you trim the sails.

What you're expecting is for your wife to learn about 7 complex
interactions at once. Did you start your physics students on
electrodynamics, and shock them when they made mistakes?

I'd recommend taking a big step backwards... get her to feel relaxed &
comfortable around the water. Just go to a shallow sandy beach for a day
of splashing & fun with some floating toys. Push her along while she's
reclining on an inflatable raft, for example. *Don't* take her out on the
boat and don't even breathe a hint that your goal is to get her to like
sailing. Take as long with this step as necessary, it may be a year of
beach trips, or maybe some canoing! Once she is OK with being on the
water, then sailing might start to seem like fun. Another possibility is
to go out with other people on their boats. That really takes the pressure
off.

That said, the best answer is really to let somebody else teach your wife
to sail. My wife already knew how to sail when we met, the only thing I
have taught her is how to handle a spinnaker. That was over a decade ago,
at one point she was good enough to be recruited as crew for more serious
racers (which she declined politely) and now she thinks she always knew
how to sail with a spinnaker & I never taught her... in fact last time we
sailed together she was telling me how. Doesn't bother me a bit... a long
long time ago I learned to not demand credit, just results!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:jOq8h.5094$d42.320@trndny07...
Just send her to the club house, she will take up with the towel boy ...
soon you will be done with her.

Then you can go sailing with "men" ... big blond men, men with muscles,
men that wear little bathing suits that show their things ,,,,

A jolly ho ho and a bottle or rum ... pass the bree Bruce.


================================================
"DSK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do?

Very very very standard teaching discipline:
1- tell the student what you're going to teach him

check: ask the student to describe in his own words the goal of the
lesson

2- teach the student the info & skills needed

check: ask the student to list the necessary info, equipment, & skills
necessary for the task

3- Demonstrate each component skill of the task

check: have the student practice each component skill

4- Demonstrate the entire task under the students direction

5- supervise the student demonstrating the entire task.

It may be desirable or necessary to review any or all steps. Most people
intuitively skip step 1 which is a huge mistake, because the student has
no idea what to focus on.


.... Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it.

I am not saying this to be insulting, but if you can't explain it, then
you don't understand it yourself all that well.


.... Its like explaining how to ride a bike.

Easy to explain, difficult to take the first steps of practice.


Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go.

Yep. Different people have different ways of learning.... who'd have
thunk it?!?


Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away".

Don't start by letting the student steer. Start by letting the student
hold (not allowed to use the cleat) the mainsheet. Have the student watch
the wind angle and boat's heeling angle, and explain the necessary steps
to keep the boat moving and not heeling too much, until they can do it
with no instruction.

Then let them steer while you trim the sails.

What you're expecting is for your wife to learn about 7 complex
interactions at once. Did you start your physics students on
electrodynamics, and shock them when they made mistakes?

I'd recommend taking a big step backwards... get her to feel relaxed &
comfortable around the water. Just go to a shallow sandy beach for a day
of splashing & fun with some floating toys. Push her along while she's
reclining on an inflatable raft, for example. *Don't* take her out on the
boat and don't even breathe a hint that your goal is to get her to like
sailing. Take as long with this step as necessary, it may be a year of
beach trips, or maybe some canoing! Once she is OK with being on the
water, then sailing might start to seem like fun. Another possibility is
to go out with other people on their boats. That really takes the
pressure off.

That said, the best answer is really to let somebody else teach your wife
to sail. My wife already knew how to sail when we met, the only thing I
have taught her is how to handle a spinnaker. That was over a decade ago,
at one point she was good enough to be recruited as crew for more serious
racers (which she declined politely) and now she thinks she always knew
how to sail with a spinnaker & I never taught her... in fact last time we
sailed together she was telling me how. Doesn't bother me a bit... a long
long time ago I learned to not demand credit, just results!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Years ago, my father in laws yacht club rented some bare boats in Tonga.
One of the guys that my f-i-l gets on his boat, is not big and blond and
muscular, but believed in wearing tiny bathing suit and strutting his stuff.
Plus he thought a single bottle of booze and a 12 pack was enough stock for
a week. Don laughed about the bozo for years.

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NE Sailboat wrote:
Just send her to the club house, she will take up with the towel boy ...
soon you will be done with her.

Then you can go sailing with "men" ... big blond men, men with muscles, men
that wear little bathing suits that show their things ,,,,

A jolly ho ho and a bottle or rum ... pass the bree Bruce.



You getting him mixed up with Jax?

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" wrote in
oups.com:

There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.


Just as you would send your daughter to a good driver training class,
rather than try to teach her how to drive, yourself, and ruining your
relationship with her....wouldn't it be prudent, not to mention a smooth
move to save a marriage, to send the wife to a good sailing school to
learn how to sail?

DO NOT FORCE HER, which will never work. She might not like sailing at
all, but doesn't want to hurt your feelings....any more than you do
because YOU don't like to go shopping for clothes, like she loves.

ONLY if she's truly interested in boats and sailing....should she be
sailing with a crusty old pirate like YOU...shouting orders and cursing
like Captain Blythe from his lofty perch to the slaves on the deck below,
anyways.

(I'm betting she's not interested, never having laid eyes on her.)

Larry
--
Heading out in the morning to retrieve a "few" hundred gallons more FREE
FUEL for the Frybrids. I got enough stored now to run a Hatteras 60 to
Europe!

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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:31:23 -0500, Larry wrote:

Heading out in the morning to retrieve a "few" hundred gallons more FREE
FUEL for the Frybrids. I got enough stored now to run a Hatteras 60 to
Europe!

How do you store all of that? Running a big Hatt to Europe could
easily take 9,000 gallons or more.

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O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I bet your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

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David Martel wrote:
O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I bet your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

I do not sail with my wife much. I mostly sail single handed where I
use a harness. Even with my wife, I wear an auto-inflatable lifejacket
with personal EPIRB. She simply has little desire to sail.

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wrote in message
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David Martel wrote:
O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I bet
your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send
your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The
goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

I do not sail with my wife much. I mostly sail single handed where I
use a harness. Even with my wife, I wear an auto-inflatable lifejacket
with personal EPIRB. She simply has little desire to sail.


Time to trade it in for a nice power boat. ;-)

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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David Martel wrote:
O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I bet
your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send
your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The
goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

I do not sail with my wife much. I mostly sail single handed where I
use a harness. Even with my wife, I wear an auto-inflatable lifejacket
with personal EPIRB. She simply has little desire to sail.


Time to trade it in for a nice power boat. ;-)

Why, I like sailing? Besides, i will soon have a power boat too.

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wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Martel wrote:
O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I
bet
your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she
is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send
your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The
goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

I do not sail with my wife much. I mostly sail single handed where I
use a harness. Even with my wife, I wear an auto-inflatable lifejacket
with personal EPIRB. She simply has little desire to sail.


Time to trade it in for a nice power boat. ;-)

Why, I like sailing? Besides, i will soon have a power boat too.


It was a joke..........a joke..........get it? Hmmm...

Based on your 'Shame and Debasement" story and how you treated your wife you
need to take a couple of steps back and chill out. Life is too short guy.
;-)

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O'Hara,

You will probably never teach your wife to sail nor will she take
lessons. Ok, see if there is a "sailing camp" for kids. Expect the kid to
say "that's not what they taught us in camp" a lot.

Dave M.

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Trade what in? the wife? :P
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
ups.com...

David Martel wrote:
O'Hara,

Read your "shame and debasement" post and was stunned that you have
failed to train a crew. If you fell overboard everyone might die. I bet
your
wife can cook, drive a car, etc. so why can't she sail? Clearly she is
capable of learning stuff.
Rather than trying to analyze and correct your teaching skills send
your
wife to a school run by someone with a reputation for competence. The
goal
is for her to learn how to sail not for you to learn how to teach.
I'm assuming here that your wife does want to learn how to sail.

Dave M.

I do not sail with my wife much. I mostly sail single handed where I
use a harness. Even with my wife, I wear an auto-inflatable lifejacket
with personal EPIRB. She simply has little desire to sail.


Time to trade it in for a nice power boat. ;-)

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wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it. Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go. My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.
My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.

Doug has it right.
The classic vocational lesson plan:
1. gives the theory
2. enabling skills are taught (how to work a winch is taught as an enabler
to teaching how to sail a boat)
3. demonstrates the skill
4. allows for guided instruction (teacher intervenes as needed)
5. student practices
6. student is assessed
7. prepare to defend yourself against politicians who say everyone must sail
proficiently by 2010.
Scout

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Scout wrote:
wrote in message
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OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it. Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go. My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.
My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.


Doug has it right.
The classic vocational lesson plan:
1. gives the theory
2. enabling skills are taught (how to work a winch is taught as an enabler
to teaching how to sail a boat)
3. demonstrates the skill
4. allows for guided instruction (teacher intervenes as needed)
5. student practices
6. student is assessed
7. prepare to defend yourself against politicians who say everyone must sail
proficiently by 2010.
Scout



Especially the SPEDS....

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"Scout" wrote:

wrote in message
roups.com...
OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
that is all abstractions. Teaching a skill is different. I have never
been able to teach my wife to steer a canoe either. I cannot explain
how to do it, I just do it. Its like explaining how to ride a bike.
Some people really want personal instruction and others just want to be
pointed in the right direction and let them go. My son is like my
wife, he craves instruction to the nth degree and he makes me crazy.
My 10 yr old daughter just wants some general directions and she'll
figure out the rest. Of course, my little daughter drives my wife
crazy.
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.

First you have to tell her what UP is. What is Steering UP? [I'm not
familiar with that term. I have a lot of trouble steering with a
tiller because I find it confusing]

What does it feel like when power comes on from the wind? If you
can't explain the feel part, you need to show her what it feels like
instead of telling her.

You have to go back to basics, or before basics. Although I would
think that you could see the wind catching the jib in addition to
feeling it. [On our boat, we have to pull the jib through the slot
between it and the staysail stay, and we practiced doing that quite a
lot both tacking and jibing before we had it 'down'.]

And let her practice when there isn't any pressure on. My
daughter-the-pilot (of airplanes) refuses to steer any of her
husband's boats (or any boat) when I know she could because if she can
fly a large passenger airplane she could certainly steer a boat. But
her husband apparently yelled at her, and she didn't take it well.
She will GO on the boat, and even fish, and she will scuba and
snorkel, but she won't take the helm.

That's probably what the problem is with the canoe too. You haven't
analyzed what it is you do to steer the canoe, and it may also be the
problem with the power boat when you get it. You will have to analyze
what you do and break it down into component parts.

Have you ever tried to write directions for a computer or robot or
something with no knowledge base how to make a peanut butter sandwich?
You can't start with 'spread the peanut butter on the bread'. First
you have to get the bread and get it out of the package.

Doug has it right.
The classic vocational lesson plan:
1. gives the theory
2. enabling skills are taught (how to work a winch is taught as an enabler
to teaching how to sail a boat)
3. demonstrates the skill
4. allows for guided instruction (teacher intervenes as needed)
5. student practices
6. student is assessed
7. prepare to defend yourself against politicians who say everyone must sail
proficiently by 2010.
Scout

Teaching a loved one to sail
 

No sailor left behind?



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Doug has it right.
The classic vocational lesson plan:
1. gives the theory
2. enabling skills are taught (how to work a winch is
taught as an enabler
to teaching how to sail a boat)
3. demonstrates the skill
4. allows for guided instruction (teacher intervenes as
needed)
5. student practices
6. student is assessed
7. prepare to defend yourself against politicians who say
everyone must sail
proficiently by 2010.
Scout

Teaching a loved one to sail
 

Yep, even the ones who: don't want to sail, hate sailing, tell sailing to F
off, hate sailors, sailing gear, wind, water, and surf.
Scout

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No sailor left behind?



"Scout" wrote in message
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wrote in message

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Doug has it right.
The classic vocational lesson plan:
1. gives the theory
2. enabling skills are taught (how to work a winch is
taught as an enabler
to teaching how to sail a boat)
3. demonstrates the skill
4. allows for guided instruction (teacher intervenes as
needed)
5. student practices
6. student is assessed
7. prepare to defend yourself against politicians who say
everyone must sail
proficiently by 2010.
Scout

Teaching a loved one to sail
 

OK, I admit I am unable to teach someone. Sometimes you explain it
several times and they dont get it. What do you do? Years ago, I
taught College Physics and my students seemed to think I was good but
SNIP
Tacking in the channel was like that. How do I tell her "Steer up when
you feel power coming on from the wind and then down a little when it
goes away". "When you tack, you gotta feel when the wind begins to
catch the jib to help push the bow around in a tight tacking situation"
There is a lotta "feel" that goes into this that I cannot explain.

I understand completely - I worked as a sailing instructor for 2 years
at a well-known sailing school here in the UK and am now able to offer
the following sage advice:

1 - Don't. Pay someone else to teach them, if they show an interest.
The formality of the relationship between pupil and instructor is
ruined if a relationship is there.
2 - Once they show interest, keep them sailing on undemanding days,
then keep them going on more demanding days with praise & recognition.
3 - Don't grab the helm and take over if it goes wrong - offer some
advice if needed and let them deal with it. Once they have dealt with
the situation, gently tell them what happened, why and what they did to
fix the situation.
4 - Remember, they must be interested - I've successfully taught a good
number of people to sail, and sail well. My 3 kids aren't interested
at all. They no longer sail with me. (Yippee!)

Artie